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I disagree. He encouraged Nikki to date Brent. I expect most people to do better than that, even if they lack confidence and harbor a secret crush.
He told her it's okay for her to go out with Brent. Which is hardly some sort of character-defining event, certainly not to the point of extrapolating that into poor decision making somehow being his calling card.

"Yeah, why not, go out with him" doesn't mean he told Nicki to become Brent's girlfriend or even date him more than once. That's all Nicki's own decision making.
 

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Yo Neon, if you're reading this: This might be a bug, idk. But after playing the teaser I got the impression that Pepper left Lawful Waffle? In my season 1 save she was still working there after I propositioned "the deal" to her, etc. So I got a bit confused when Lane screamed at me in the parking lot and then seeing Molly at the restaurant out of the blue. Is this a save export bug or...?

Anyway, can't wait for the full chapter. Pretty good stuff! Cassie is already one of my favorites haha
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I'm going to assume you're talking about Guy getting stricken with a sudden case of limp-dick when he's trying to sleep with Nicki? That scene's really there to demonstrate a few things:
  • Guy is, at this point, out of shape and hasn't touched a woman in years. He's full of nerves and clogged arteries, neither of which are great for stamina or keeping an erection.
  • Nicki is cool about it. She has to get him out of his own head and find a position that's easier on his body, and she does so without making a big deal out of it.
  • This porn fantasy will have a little bit of humanity in it. From Chapter One I'm trying to demonstrate that the hero will not be an unstoppable fuck machine. But, his friends will carry him through the hard times if he lets them.
Writing people who have real world problems! How dare you!

Just another reason Nicki is wife material. Imagine if it was Isabella instead :HideThePain:
That would have gone very bad for Guy.

Umm... What? lol


No. I'm talking about him starting out with no money. It always started with him having money. That's why Nikki was there. To get money from him. Now he's as broke as Nikki's asshole boyfriend.
You're wrong. Guy ALWAYS started out broke. He made one really bad decision, and never recovered. It's not uncommon - working at starvation wages makes it impossible to get ahead. But hey, go play the old game again - it's available to play on .


He won money from a bitcoin investment in both versions, right as the game starts. He comes off more like a loser in the original, honestly. Now stop trying to be a badass edgelord and enjoy the game. ;)
This. Maybe it wasn't as clearly spelled out, because the writing was not as skilled yet, but it was there.

The MC was broke at the start of the original version that is true, but back then the game implied that aside from that the disastrous decision to invest in crypto the MC generally had his head on straight. The new version makes excessively clear that poor decisions were the MC's calling card and he continued to fuck up his life from that point onward. IMHO that does badly undermine the premise of the game once he lucks into his fortune, though obviously some people disagree and like the change.
Sorry, but I think you need to play the game again, because you clearly have no memory of what happened in this one. Try not skipping past the exposition.
 

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I didn't really get this impression from the reworked intro. The MC seems to simply lack any advantages that he could use to turn his life around and dig himself out from the poverty he's in. If anything, he's cautious not to fuck up and end up in prison or worse. He ekes out a living and it's nothing to write home about, but that's the case for most people.
He clearly *could* dig himself out of it - how do you think he got the money to buy the Crypto in the first place? He had a chunk of change that he tossed at it on a gamble. He could spend a few years and work that back up himself.

Saying he's unable to do that in a reworked version clearly does undermine the original theme of an average guy who gambled and lost. Now he's made to look like he's also financially inept and incapable of working his way out of it?

I don't buy it. He fell on hard times and was emotionally down after the loss, but from the original version of the game I never felt like he was unable to change his fortunes if he didn't want to try. I haven't played the reworked game, and probably won't - I don't get a good vibe from all the changes I'm hearing about. Just not feelin' it anymore with this one.
 

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You're wrong. Guy ALWAYS started out broke. He made one really bad decision, and never recovered. It's not uncommon - working at starvation wages makes it impossible to get ahead. But hey, go play the old game again
I'm right. It's how Guy was able to start his non-profit organization with the money that he made and helped people with. Now he just seems like some broke fuck making bad decisions left and right.
 

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He clearly *could* dig himself out of it - how do you think he got the money to buy the Crypto in the first place? He had a chunk of change that he tossed at it on a gamble. He could spend a few years and work that back up himself.
I don't think the money he's sunk in the crypto was actually something he's earned with his own effort over years by working menial jobs. IIRC it was a leftover from his "college fund", presumably something he's gotten from his ass-rich mother for his studies, before they had a fallout.

Also, that money was something like $10k. Even presuming he could save this much/little again, what exactly sort of "turning his life around" do you imagine he'd do with it? At best, this is a small safety net in case of medical emergency and suchlike. But it's not like it'd buy him a much-better paying stable job and a place to live that wasn't a small brickhole, certainly not long term.

edit: i've checked in game to make sure, and, yeah:

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He isn't likely going to get another student loan in his lap. And...

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... it's not exactly some wild amount of money that'd somehow help him to make his life not the shithole that it was.
 
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Is it ever explicitly stated how much money Guy has now?
In the old version, about $28 million dollars. In the new version, it is deliberately left a bit more vague.

That's the old version. Neon has deliberately left it a bit more up in the air this time, with some implications it was much more than in the old version, but no explicit figure. He does say eight figures, though so somewhere between $10 and $99 million.
 

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... it's not exactly some wild amount of money that'd somehow help him to make his life not the shithole that it was.
Everyone who thinks that way is destined to stay that way. Get certifications, night school, apprenticeships, whatever. It IS possible to further yourself even with a little bit of a monetary kick.

Think success, follow success, find success. I don't think you can write anyone into a hole deep enough until they're either mentally or physically disabled. The MC isn't.

Doesn't matter, it's just my .02 and I haven't played the remake anyway. I prefer to think of the game the way it was.
 
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