?? I don't rly remember not being able to avoid her though. I just remeber completely avoiding her events (not doing them) but maybe I missed an update whe you have to do them to progress through the story. I still hope we dev doesn't force us to take it up there. I mean to each their own I jusy hope dev will respect each side (the ones who like to take and the others who like to give)
Apart from that hope we can soon get the update
THX
styggtuff12
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just gotten to the point where it becomes a sandbox and so far it's honestly pretty depressing, your old self is pretty much dead, you've only been alive for a few days and so far your mom neglects you, your sister despises and torments you, you're constantly in and out of the hospital and you got shot.
Ciaran8023
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Yeah, his family is basically complete fucking dogshit, every single one of them.
I hope some 10 years down the line, we get the option to fuck them up, but I sincerely doubt it will happen.
Avaron1974
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Not really.
The company was hit by a hacker and secrets taken, it's very strongly hinted that it was the MC that did it, something also happened that caused another sister of the MC's death which is also hinted that the MC caused. That's why his sister hates him.
Ciaran8023
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Oh I know exactly why his sister hates him, but even if it is hinted, even the sister herself can't say that she's positive that he did it, but both her and his mother have absolutely zero qualms about basically ruining his entire life over something that they cannot prove beyond a hunch.
Any normal human being wouldn't do this, his family is just complete shit, there are no two ways about that fact.
Though we already knew that they weren't normal, given that his sister is also fine with having someone basically raped to death. Great family, terrific, the most beautiful family.
iayze
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im not sure whats going on with this update anymore. he said in feb that it was coming mid march.. that passed. so u would think its coming early to mid april.. that passed and when asked about it in discord first time he says the final render is 85% done, then he says everything everything is complete just one issue that he states is not even a big issue will be done asap. lastly he states once again after someone asks if hes okay did something happen "it comes out this week unless a meteor decides to hit his home" this is now last week when he stated this. idk if something went wrong or if theres another reason this update is a pretty much a whole month late.
I'm uploading the update but with my ADSL I have an upload speed of 100kb/s...
this is one of the 2 games that i hate the futa part, is aovidable but the problem is much of the story goes below this futa on male shit,...and the main plot isnt going any slower bcs i dunno....those idotics side quest that dont take anywhere,and the mc have the mind of a child,....no back bone either...
In this update, does something finally happen with the incest patch? Love your work by the way, take your time, this is my favorite game on the site.
damnedfrog
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Considering the futa are a big part of the world setup and plot of the game, I think it's pointless to play this game without it.
Loxxxthenasty
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Only thing makes me sad for this title, even though I like it MC keeps getting kicked around even by the ones smitten by him.. Will he grow at all in coming updates?? Not into some Chad but at least more confident about himself.. He seems to be highly intelligent.. Going by the snippet of info about the trouble he caused in the past..
Avaron1974
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He's just woke up from a coma where someone tried to kill him, has no memory and doesn't know why his sister hates him, nearly got killed on his first week out of said coma and doesn't know where his life is going....
He's hardly going to be captain confident at the minute.
Ciaran8023
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but has he not found out that they hate him because they think he leaked something?
I have a distinct memory of him finding out or atleast being fairly certain of it.
Moreover, his lack of confidence is kind of weird considering that he was apparently an overconfident asshat previously. Even with memory loss, you tend to not lose ingrained behaviour, but MC basically just turned into a blank slate wet blanket which is odd to say the least.
Unless people are lying about how he was in the past, which wouldn't surprise me given that no one on that planet seems to give a fuck about the MC besides his "roommate".
Avaron1974
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He's got hints that he believes thats the reason.
The main reason is his sister blames him for their other sisters death, the one his mother is trying to hide from him.
Ciaran8023
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Yeah, I know of the reason, but just to set a baseline that he is aware of that he's hated and has an idea of why, even though he hasn't got the full picture yet.
I'd still say that it counts as him knowing why he's hated as even though what he knows isn't the correct information, he isn't completely in the dark and knows of a reason.
I still find it hilarious how utterly vapid the family is portrayed though, and how insanely malicious they are. Especially since if you start looking at the endgame of that entire saga;
If it turns out that he was the reason as to why all that shit happened, I don't think ANY viewer will like the MC anymore.
If it turns out that he wasn't the reason, I don't think any viewer will like the family anymore, if there were any to begin with.
I just don't narratively understand the reason as to why they're written in the way that they are, because they seem like intelligent human beings in every aspect except anything regarding the MC. And they also seem to be completely void of any empathy for other human beings.
Avaron1974
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I can't say I dislike his family.
His mother is running a multi billion dollar business, it's not like she can just stop. She should try and make more time, especially given the circumstances, but it's not like she's making up excuses.
To be honest, if I thought my brother was responsible for my sisters death, i'd hate him too. I can't blame her for that or i'd be a real hypocrite.
I can't hate the MC for what he did because we don't know why he did it. I get the hint something shady may be going on with the business ad if that's why he did it then it's all gravy. If he did all that just for money i'd dislike him.
On the flip side I think a lot of people playing the game also lack empathy. His sisters were incredibly close so she basically lost her best friend and thinks her brother was the cause of that. People are hating on her for being hurt and upset like she's supposed to get over the fact her brother tried to destroy their business, the family and caused their sisters death just because he's the protag. Even then she is trying to warm up to him.
Until we know exactly what happened before his coma, we don't know who's justified in their actions.
Ciaran8023
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... He's her son.
Her daughter is head of security and is actively trying to fuck her son over as much as humanly possible, and she straight up finds no issue with it.
How is that a trait you like? Genuine question.
Sure, but I'd have to be DAMN certain about it.Avaron1974 said:
With their conversation in the office, it's clear that neither the mother or the sister are certain that he's the culprit, meaning that they're destroying him based on a hunch.
We don't even know if he did it. All we've gotten have been unreliable narrator viewpoints and two idiots who think he did it.Avaron1974 said:
I agree that something shady is going on with the business, and that just makes me more confused as to why his family is thinking that he is the root cause of it and not entertaining any other investigations it seems, especially if one is supposedly the head of security (that being his sister).Avaron1974 said:
From the slim information we have of his past, he doesn't exactly come off as a slick infiltrator of any kind, and she seems to be far more competent as head of security than most. I cannot in any way see how she would fuck up or overlook something that an idiot like him could be doing, which just lends more to the theory that whatever sketchy shit is going on in the company is the same sketchy shit that caused the leak, and MC isn't exactly involved in any of the current sketchy shit.
She thinks that he tried to destroy their business, she isn't even sure but it doesn't stop her from harming him. Again, based on a hunch.Avaron1974 said:
She is also someone who literally had someone raped nearly to death because she felt like it.
None of what the family is doing is 'justifiable'.
Even if the MC had something to do with the situation, they're now actively destroying someone who can't remember shit, it's like taking a sledgehammer to someone who's a paraplegic.
And if he didn't have anything to do with it, given that they aren't certain and are acting as if they are anyway, you can't really justify that either. "Oh we decided to destroy his mental wellbeing on a hunch" doesn't exactly hold up as justifiable cause.
As for the MC, I don't even think discussing the term 'justifiable' is even applicable because the dude just wants to try to fucking survive in between his family seemingly wanting him dead, half the planet lying to him and manipulating him, and he himself wanting to head off into the afterlife.
I'm a very empathetic person by nature, I tend to look at every viewpoint possible before making a call on how I feel about things, and I genuinely cannot see a single way to redeem that family or say that they're in the right in any capacity.
If you have a hunch, you need to make sure you're damn certain before destroying someone, especially if they're supposed to be your family.
It's why I'm so confused as to why the family is written as extremely malicious and borderline incompetent as they are in terms of the MC, because it's a narrative deadend in basically every way other than a 'revenge' story where the MC fucks them over, but I doubt it will turn out like that.
Avaron1974
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She had that done for revenge for shooting the MC.
She hasn't done anything to him.
She let him stay in her house, got him a car and he's working for her.
The only thing she's got him to do was distract the shooter that came to her house so she could take her and her partners down.
Aside from that she's left him alone.
FatGiant
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I agree.
It's very hurtful to the amnesiac that started with no idea of why he's being treated this way. In those terms he's innocent, this version of him, hasn't done anything. But, him having little to no memory of being a jerk, doesn't mean that everyone he has hurt doesn't remember.
In this tale, identity mixes with memory. We are what we remember, but, to others, we are what they remember.
Until, both memories are reconciled, if ever, we'll feel this duality of just and unjust treatment. He's feeling mistreated, abused, ignored, abandoned. In that I empathize. BUT. His family feel that he deserves that because of who he was to them.
They are both right. They are both wrong. And the cycle of hurt will go on until the amnesiac recovers his memories and can evaluate why he's being treated that way.
It is quite easy to stand in judgement of the Mother or the Sister, because, for all intents and purposes, that is an innocent. What isn't easy, is to be them, hurt, betrayed, more than once, by the actions of someone that now claims to not remember, how can they even begin to forgive, if they can't be sure it is true?
Could you trust him, in their place? I couldn't. Could I understand the Mother and the Sister, in his place? I couldn't.
In spite of it all, it is this conflict between memory and identity that makes me play this, and hopefully find out how it ends, someday.
Peace
