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Gotta question that has been bugging the shit out of me. His family frankly doesn't like him(everything they have done has proved it.) So unless I missed the explanation, why did they wake him up?
Clearly Emilie loves the MC we're just not smart enough to see because she's always right.
 

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Clearly Emilie loves the MC we're just not smart enough to see because she's always right.
I like theories there is a game where the MC gives off a pheromone that makes women horny and attracted to him. His adopted landlady is aware of it so when she gets affected by it, she grabs the nears man and basically fucks. So she doesn't cross the line with him. If I remember correctly doesn't the MC have that affect with Heras. So Emilies way of dealing with it is to be extremely aggressive with him by using the past to avoid doing anything with him. Just a theory.
 

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scene te03_003 with dis#•token ouvre la porte de la classe
h "Yes, I know. I came to you for my internship."
t "Of course! If you don't mind giving me another massage of yours."
h "Sure ma'am!"

crucial check missing here - declined relationship with the teacher before (no massage given)


scene te02_013 with dis
tt "I'd love to hear more about this internship but my shoulders are killing me from bending over those damn assignments."
tt "Would you mind massaging them while telling me all this."
scene te02_014 with dis
menu:
"Sorry {color=#c40c0c} (END OF Ms. TOKEN'S ROMANCE){/color}":
jump pdmptsgdpdpmophadtcmtf
"My pleasure":
jump lgbdlpnqvttfmpmtf

this is confusing , to put it midly
Leonave
and the whole massaging thing following te03-003 negates the choice to end or even start the relationship with the teacher
as far as i see all token events ignore the relationship check after scene te02_014
now i know why, at my first run, i got the scenes with the teacher
pls check this

another thing - at the therapist
"hidespymusic" variable does nothing?
 
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well

i check the game after two more updates again :D

i stuck at the rachel visit
and there is nothing to do to advance the story
i guess its because i avoid to much "woman" (no futa option)

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I don't think we've seen a single herma that didn't want to get into the MC's pants tho
I think bro was talking about how hermas pheromones don't affect the MC. And the theory he was talking was probably that the MC himself had some pheromones as well that makes females and hermas more sexually attracted to him, which is why all of them want to jump his bone so fricking fast.

And this kind of checks, especially for hermas. They are already frustrated both emotionally and sexually, so a guy that is good looking enough and is attractive to them (maybe because of some pheromones) and is not affected by their pheromones is basically as tasty as cold glass of water in the middle of a desert. Same would go for Emilie and she probably hates feeling like that which is why she is more nasty than she wants to be and try to keep their interactions as short as possible.

I honestly don't despise Emilie as much as I did at the start of the game, enough clues where revealed to kind of explain her irrational behavior.
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But of course, she still is a huge biatch, but I guess that's her standard personality, bit bitch-y.
 
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Just started the new update and have some notes/thoughts so let's get right to it.

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Just started the new update and have some notes/thoughts so let's get right to it.

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I actually have seen that in a lot of series/games/movies they have the washing machine and the drier in the basement... on The Simpsons for example.
 
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Gotta question that has been bugging the shit out of me. His family frankly doesn't like him(everything they have done has proved it.) So unless I missed the explanation, why did they wake him up?
To be honest that's not a difficult question to answer.
They (at least the mom) are still not sure who actually was the hacker, so it would make sense to wake up who they (Emilie mostly) think is the culprit.

The only issue I have is that
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But this bit could be just me missinterpreting the whole thing of course.
 

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I actually have seen that in a lot of series/games/movies they have the washing machine and the drier in the basement... on The Simpsons for example.
Okay, but is that where they keep motor oil?
Honestly, I'm not even particularly weirded out that someone would keep motor oil in their laundry room.
I've done worse things.
It's a combination of the expression "moving mud" (which I'm not familiar with and google didn't find a good explanation of) and accidentally pouring a bottle of motor oil over all her other clothes.

I'm concerned that the overall story seems like the kind of thing the writer experienced (or more likely, one of their coworkers experienced) and they thought, "That's relatable &/or interesting" and decided to include it... meanwhile I assume most players think/thought "WTF?! That's bizarre! What were they thinking?!?!" because it isn't relatable and isn't written in a particularly interesting manner.
Maybe that's just me. I'm just tossing my 2 cents in... and honestly, who would stop to pick up 2 cents these days?
ymmv.

Personally, I think something like the following would be a better explanation for her clothing choice:
her: "I just felt like wearing something different and seeing what happened."
guy: "What happened?"
her: "Nothing interesting.{w}.. yet."
 

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Okay, but is that where they keep motor oil?
Honestly, I'm not even particularly weirded out that someone would keep motor oil in their laundry room.
I've done worse things.
I mean where would you keep motor oil in? In the kitchen, living room or bedroom?

I'm not from the US (where 90% of settings inspiration sort of come from in media), but have worked there for some years.
In Europe (almost everywhere I lived) washing machine and dryer can be in-house, my Irish landlords had them next to their kitchen for example, but the motor oil was in their garage.
In the US they tended (but might just be my limited experience) to keep both in the basement/garage, which is where everyone I know of keeps stuff like motor oil, regardless of region.
 

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Wow. There are some passionate replies in this thread. I suppose that's a good thing; engagement and interest enough to be upset is way better than apathy.

Anyhow, Leonave I don't take offense with Emilie's behavior towards her brother. Obviously, there is a lot of history and baggage there, and she's absolutely awful at introspection and dealing with her own issues, but family doesn't get that angry unless they have a lot of emotion tied to someone. And I suspect Emilie has a veritable truckload of emotion when it comes to the MC. Obviously, the MC instinctively feels a lot of emotion and devotion towards her too, and that can be understood. Some families are like that, no matter the shit that goes down.

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I suspect that there are going to be some awfully juicy reveals in the future, and I can't wait to find out. Good luck in your development endeavors, and I hope that you'll be able to maintain the project schedule you'd prefer.
 
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I mean where would you keep motor oil in? In the kitchen, living room or bedroom?

I'm not from the US (where 90% of settings inspiration sort of come from in media), but have worked there for some years.
In Europe (almost everywhere I lived) washing machine and dryer can be in-house, my Irish landlords had them next to their kitchen for example, but the motor oil was in their garage.
In the US they tended (but might just be my limited experience) to keep both in the basement/garage, which is where everyone I know of keeps stuff like motor oil, regardless of region.
Props for missing either of the points I was trying to make.

Personally - and I don't consider myself a reasonable example of someone from the USA &/or the human species (which I believe I specified in my first and second post) - I have always kept the (sealed, unopened) bottles of motor oil in the trunk of my car.
Even when (or perhaps because) I first owned a 1978 Mustang (a couple decades after 1978) that seemed to burn 1 quart of oil for every fill-up of gasoline.

Anyway, to repeat myself:
"Maybe that's just me. I'm just tossing my 2 cents in... and honestly, who would stop to pick up 2 cents these days?
"
."

Maybe I should have specified rather than 2 cents.
Or, I dunno, maybe (checks google/exchange rates) 0,018 Euro
 
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Wow. There are some passionate replies in this thread. I suppose that's a good thing; engagement and interest enough to be upset is way better than apathy.

I suspect that there are going to be some awfully juicy reveals in the future, and I can't wait to find out. Good luck in your development endeavors, and I hope that you'll be able to maintain the project schedule you'd prefer.
To be fair, being one of the folks who brought up the "weird family interactions", all I can add is that:
  1. We are mostly leeching this VN (At least I am, sorry dev) at the moment so, whatever, he (?) doesn't have to listen to any of us.
  2. Any dev (or creator/artist for that matter) is ABSOLUTELY free to "make" their creations how they see fit
  3. That said this is a forum where to discuss these VNs, not just a repository to pirate them.
The only real "issue" I have with the narrative of this VN comes from a place of not being a lover of Kinetic Novels for the most part, I like to have a certain degree of agency when playing VNs, not last because even the best ones I tried are miles away in quality to actual books (and a lot of TV series/movies), which is simply a fact.

So coming from that point I still believe that while the stepsister behaviour might be weird compared to real life (but then again in real life there's no Futa epidemic either?), it's the mother's and MC's behaviours that don't check.

The mother CLEARLY doesn't care about him enough to even find the time to at least tell him something and ACTUALLY make sure he has a place to live after years spent "frozen".
The MC on the other hand is developing a "deep" love for a family who really doesn't care that much about him, they both care about his dead step-sister and for sure about the secrets stolen by the hacker, but they are fine for example letting him stranded in a city he doesn't remember with no mean of contacting anyone (they don't give him a phone neither their numbers).

Another example, the mother wants him to live with Emilie, "because is closer to the special needs school",
A school he can't get to because he doesn't drive and has no idea where he even is and then, when he gets shot she actually gives him a laptop to be able to attend said school from the hospital... like couldn't she've done that to begin with?

Sometimes I think people don't really understand how scary, stressing and life affecting losing your memory is?

I'll close this here because I know this is a silly wall of text, and I actually still find this story intriguing.
 

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Wow. There are some passionate replies in this thread. I suppose that's a good thing; engagement and interest enough to be upset is way better than apathy.

Anyhow, Leonave I don't take offense with Emilie's behavior towards her brother. Obviously, there is a lot of history and baggage there, and she's absolutely awful at introspection and dealing with her own issues, but family doesn't get that angry unless they have a lot of emotion tied to someone. And I suspect Emilie has a veritable truckload of emotion when it comes to the MC. Obviously, the MC instinctively feels a lot of emotion and devotion towards her too, and that can be understood. Some families are like that, no matter the shit that goes down.

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I suspect that there are going to be some awfully juicy reveals in the future, and I can't wait to find out. Good luck in your development endeavors, and I hope that you'll be able to maintain the project schedule you'd prefer.
What truth are you talking about? The truth is in the author's head. There are other conversations going on here. Why should the player watch the hero turn into a nonentity? Why, despite the player's choice, does he start to make peace with his family, which you can hardly call a family?
 

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What truth are you talking about? The truth is in the author's head. There are other conversations going on here. Why should the player watch the hero turn into a nonentity? Why, despite the player's choice, does he start to make peace with his family, which you can hardly call a family?
Exactly why eloping or just going away with that Futa in the sauna leaving everything behind is the true real ending for me. It felt like she actually liked the mc unlike his own "family" and a chance to leave old shit behind and start anew, with someone who actually cares enough about him to leave their life in the city to live together with the mc. That ending truly felt so liberating that I saved it just so I could revisit again. Only played the rest to see what direction the "real ending" of the story was going to.
 
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