VN Ren'Py Futa's World of NTR [v1.4.2] [ScarletGames]

[Daryle1]

Let’s be generous and say the dev was sick for a week. That still leaves around 81 days for nothing beyond morning-after dialogue, with no new scenes or major set pieces. The writing here is not overly complex, mostly a conversation between two characters and a mom, so it is hard not to worry about pacing.

It has also been roughly 281 days since the last Sophie scene that this morning follows, since we have been focused on the futa on futa route for almost a year. If we add another two months before the next update, that is about 146 days to finish just one day of content. I really enjoy the game and want it to succeed, but I am hoping future updates can balance the routes a bit more so all players get to see progress.

Where did you get that math? It's been 76 days since the last update. If dev was sick for a month, that leaves like 1 month and about 2 weeks for dev to finish this update.

 

[Fazed]

TEXT LIKE A FUCKING VISUAL NOVEL?

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[Fazed]

the takes of "heh skip bros just wanna goon lol" bra its a fucking porn game. the dev should know their audience is here MAINLY for the porn. also hot take but if it took you 3 months to make 15 minutes of a game (that had no scenes lewd or otherwise) then maybe to dont drop the update without anything to show for it. honestly im more frustrated by the white knighting then this dud update. lets just admit that 90 days for 15 minutes of flat text on still images is disappointing even if it's a masterpiece (which it isnt, no offence dev)

I would argue that if all you want is porn, the hub and other sites exist that provide just that. Why demand such simplicity from a format that developed to deliver an alternative to what is already readily available? Weak, misplaced stance.

 

[saekoa]

Where did you get that math? It's been 76 days since the last update. If dev was sick for a month, that leaves like 1 month and about 2 weeks for dev to finish this update.

V1.3.5 early access was released on May 17, which was 86 days ago. I can understand delays, and if the dev was sick I hope they are feeling better. That said, a full month of illness is rare outside of chronic conditions that require extended leave from work, which is why I had assumed he may have been sick for a week. Even if we are extremely generous and say it was a month, that still leaves about two months for an update that only added very straightforward morning dialogue.

This is not meant to be negative. I enjoy the game and want it to succeed, but constructive feedback is important so the dev knows when pacing or content volume might not meet player expectations. Only hearing praise may feel encouraging in the short term, but it does not help identify areas that need improvement.

 

[Ryzip]

V1.3.5 early access was released on May 17, which was 86 days ago. I can understand delays, and if the dev was sick I hope they are feeling better. That said, a full month of illness is rare outside of chronic conditions that require extended leave from work, so I find it more reasonable to assume a shorter recovery time. Even if we are extremely generous and say it was a month, that still leaves about two months for an update that only added morning dialogue.

This is not meant to be negative. I enjoy the game and want it to succeed, but constructive feedback is important so the dev knows when pacing or content volume might not meet player expectations. Only hearing praise may feel encouraging in the short term, but it does not help identify areas that need improvement.

To be fair he was still hard at work trying to fix problems and animations with the last update until the public update. We usually count from the public release because that's likely when he actually stops updating the current version and might have started working on the next one.

We don't know the dev's situation, we just know he tries to keep up with the game and it's huge demand. Let's just hope this feedback reaches him and he's able to spend more time working on the game in the future.

 

[saekoa]

To be fair he was still hard at work trying to fix problems and animations with the last update until the public update. We usually count from the public release because that's likely when he actually stops updating the current version and might have started working on the next one.

We don't know the dev's situation, we just know he tries to keep up with the game and it's huge demand. Let's just hope this feedback reaches him and he's able to spend more time working on the game in the future.

I get that some people count from the public release, but I go by the earliest possible play date since that’s when I started waiting and many others did too. I also see early releases more as a way for devs to start earning from their work rather than as a strict beta test. You pay to play early, not just to report and fix bugs. Some bugs get fixed and dialogue gets tweaked, but for a simple Koikatsu VN it is usually 95% finished at that stage.

I am not trying to be harsh. I enjoy the game and support the dev, but I do think this update felt underwhelming for the time it took. As you said, I hope the feedback helps and that future updates have more to dig into.

 

[Sombramain22]

trash update yep this game will be adboen dev well say some bs about life our something

 

[netcov]

To be honest, I don't see much sense to over-analysing this update. We don't know how much time went into plotting and writing the general arcs and conversation, we cannot say whether scarlet already put some work towards the next update. Obviously there is the hint about a longer content update, so being naive and paying a lot of trust and goodwill upfront would be to simply let dev cook on this one.

We already had a short burst of "overhyping" and feeding some outrageous expectations for this update some pages earlier in this thread.

And do remember: there was feedback (although not sure if it was here or patreon) that some build-up is appreciated instead of spamming h-scenes. Having some lore and worldbuilding does no harm to this game, since its' pace is already quite fast in regards to h-scenes. Just let Scarlet cook and have some faith that the build-ups and bits of lore are just making the next update sweeter.
Personally I welcome smaller bits of lore and ideally a bit of romance / building up a bit of emotional tension and affection.

 

[Eren Jones]

Brother, this is literally an update for the OG route...

I obviously mean sex scenes and not just talking.

 

[chenzu77]

Nah bruh, Scarlet started doin' this to generate expectations for the next UPD that (in their words) will have all the content from the rest of the day, so this is just like.. a blueballs UPD? Lmao

To be honest, I don't see much sense to over-analysing this update. We don't know how much time went into plotting and writing the general arcs and conversation, we cannot say whether scarlet already put some work towards the next update. Obviously there is the hint about a longer content update, so being naive and paying a lot of trust and goodwill upfront would be to simply let dev cook on this one.

We already had a short burst of "overhyping" and feeding some outrageous expectations for this update some pages earlier in this thread.

And do remember: there was feedback (although not sure if it was here or patreon) that some build-up is appreciated instead of spamming h-scenes. Having some lore and worldbuilding does no harm to this game, since its' pace is already quite fast in regards to h-scenes. Just let Scarlet cook and have some faith that the build-ups and bits of lore are just making the next update sweeter.
Personally I welcome smaller bits of lore and ideally a bit of romance / building up a bit of emotional tension and affection.

If i remember correctly, this happens every time a new cycle of updates start, it happened with the previous futaxfuta because people felt blue balled and it happened with the previous netori update because the first update is always used to set the stage for the rest of the day.

I really apreciate the build up and i think it always pays off in the end so i don't have much of a problem, scarlet has really taken feedback to improve with the pace and make the scenes feel better but i get the reception some people have, at least this isn't "the entire game is ruined forever" levels of criticism, i think there was a guy like that during the past futaxfuta update

 

[Jim Webb]

This was honestly a terrible update for a game I like, way too short no new scenes at all. A little convo took me 8 mins to read through and I'm a slow reader... why release this? I hope this isn't the way the game is going now.

 

[Ryzip]

If i remember correctly, this happens every time a new cycle of updates start, it happened with the previous futaxfuta because people felt blue balled and it happened with the previous netori update because the first update is always used to set the stage for the rest of the day.

I really apreciate the build up and i think it always pays off in the end so i don't have much of a problem, scarlet has really taken feedback to improve with the pace and make the scenes feel better in the end but i get the reception some people have, at least this isn't "the entire game is ruined forever" levels of criticism, i think there was a guy like that during the past futaxfuta update

You need heart and patience to make a game like this. Going out of his way to make futa on futa almost had people calling it a cash grab. But there was tons of lore set up in this update including Hana's plot, dialogue that I think was implying Andrea got arrested in netori and Kendra possibly moving into Milly's neighborhood, maybe.

Dev seems confident in what he's bringing so I'm all for it. But in case anyone is expecting this too I'm sure we are 99.99% not going all the way with Amelia on day 4.

 

[netcov]

You need heart and patience to make a game like this. Going out of his way to make futa on futa almost had people calling it a cash grab. But there was tons of lore set up in this update including Hana's plot, dialogue that I think was implying Andrea got arrested in netori and Kendra possibly moving into Milly's neighborhood, maybe.

Dev seems confident in what he's bringing so I'm all for it. But in case anyone is expecting this too I'm sure we are 99.99% not going all the way with Amelia on day 4.

Sadly if the devs try themselves out with different routes and kinks some vocal pirates come along and start bashing on everything. Just looking at the post above yours is evidence enough of some people being quick to judge without keeping the broader picture (the whole game) in mind.

 

[Strangerdangererer]

This is not meant to be negative. I enjoy the game and want it to succeed, but constructive feedback is important so the dev knows when pacing or content volume might not meet player expectations. Only hearing praise may feel encouraging in the short term, but it does not help identify areas that need improvement.

Brother, I don't mean to be rude, but where is all this "constructive" criticism you keep referencing? The grand majority of the negative feedback is not constructive by any metric, it's just people whining that there's no sex in this update and/or dooming about the f/f path supposedly being the priority now. Vapid shit, mostly. Now, could Scarlet do something productive with this type of feedback? Possibly. That doesn't make it helpful or valuable on its own, however.

Like I said earlier, I think it's perfectly reasonable for some people to be disappointed. We just had a lot of updates for a path that doesn't cater to the tastes of many in the thread, so I empathize with folks on that. And yes, this is a porn game, so sex is an expectation for sure. It's just a lot of the tone underpinning the "constructive" feedback here kinda sucks ass lol. Much of it reads like people have been personally spited, not that they're simply underwhelmed. Even a good portion of your own posts on this amount to "well he couldn't have been sick THAT long". Like, c'mon dude. Have a lil empathy for your fellow man.

If you were disappointed by this update then hey, that's totally fair. Wanting that emotion validated and being glad you're not the only one feeling that way? Also totally reasonable. But lumping yourself in with this bellyaching and defending it as respectable critique, when it's clearly not? Weird move imo.

I obviously mean sex scenes and not just talking.

Hardly "obvious" from your post lmao, but whatever you say bro.

 

[chenzu77]

You need heart and patience to make a game like this. Going out of his way to make futa on futa almost had people calling it a cash grab. But there was tons of lore set up in this update including Hana's plot, dialogue that I think was implying Andrea got arrested in netori and Kendra possibly moving into Milly's neighborhood, maybe.

Dev seems confident in what he's bringing so I'm all for it. But in case anyone is expecting this too I'm sure we are 99.99% not going all the way with Amelia on day 4.

Thats something i really liked because it helps scarlet set more context whitout having to waste time in the netori path. We already know how much of a menace futas tend to be thanks to the futaxfuta path, so people freaking out, leaving school early and hana not going on her date with ollie and playing videogames all night work because we have the futaxfuta as background to know what might be happening behind scenes

 

[Ryzip]

Brother, I don't mean to be rude, but where is all this "constructive" criticism you keep referencing? The grand majority of the negative feedback is not constructive by any metric, it's just people whining that there's no sex in this update and/or dooming about the f/f path supposedly being the priority now. Vapid shit, mostly. Now, could Scarlet do something productive with this type of feedback? Possibly. That doesn't make it helpful or valuable on its own, however.

Exactly. And I'm not even saying the update was perfect. But if you want to be continuously bombarded with rushed continuous scenes and no buildup, you'll have to deal with the quick burnout. Then again we know what happened the last time dev tried to drop quicker updates, huge backlash because they felt "forced" and had crazy bugs.

I think everyone who wanted more content is absolutely right. But I also just see people asking for more and more every update. Dev cannot go back to making very simple scenes without lustre, no one is willing to say he should just drop the depravity path to focus on netori, everyone wants build-up but no one wants to wait for the build-up to progress and apparently at some point simple morning updates stopped being enough. So what solution are we suggesting then?

I feel like after the last update scarlet is just moving at his own pace and stopped letting the pressure get to him anymore. He's not even promising ETAs, he just dropped the update when he felt it was ready and for the first time in ages the dialogue wasn't filled with mad typos and bugs.

 

[Tankill]

The presence of a gallery is urgent

 

[saekoa]

Brother, I don't mean to be rude, but where is all this "constructive" criticism you keep referencing? The grand majority of the negative feedback is not constructive by any metric, it's just people whining that there's no sex in this update and/or dooming about the f/f path supposedly being the priority now. Vapid shit, mostly. Now, could Scarlet do something productive with this type of feedback? Possibly. That doesn't make it helpful or valuable on its own, however.

Like I said earlier, I think it's perfectly reasonable for some people to be disappointed. We just had a lot of updates for a path that doesn't cater to the tastes of many in the thread, so I empathize with folks on that. And yes, this is a porn game, so sex is an expectation for sure. It's just a lot of the tone underpinning the "constructive" feedback here kinda sucks ass lol. Much of it reads like people have been personally spited, not that they're simply underwhelmed. Even a good portion of your own posts on this amount to "well he couldn't have been sick THAT long". Like, c'mon dude. Have a lil empathy for your fellow man.

If you were disappointed by this update then hey, that's totally fair. Wanting that emotion validated and being glad you're not the only one feeling that way? Also totally reasonable. But lumping yourself in with this bellyaching and defending it as respectable critique, when it's clearly not? Weird move imo.

There is valid critique here. There is also doom posting, but just as much, if not more, white knighting defending everything to the grave. I don’t agree with either extreme. People keep replying to nitpick or argue semantics, which is happening here too. My “not sick that long” comment is being misrepresented. In an older post I said if we are generous we could give him a week, before I read in the credits it was a month. Later I said even if we are extremely generous and say a month, my point was still the same, which was about removing that time from how long it took to release. As for "empathy for the fellow man," I said if he is sick I hope he feels better, have said in my comments I think he is extremely talented, love the game, and hope it succeeds. I have sugarcoated almost, if not every comment.

For me, the main issue is how long it took to write this update. I am not a fan of the futa on futa direction, there are now too many characters, and it is becoming a sex fest. It took almost a year to get back to the netori route, and the update we got was extremely short despite the long wait. Others have echoed the same feedback. If the dev wants to slow down and add more buildup with dialogue-heavy updates, that is fine and even good at times, but it should not take three months to release something this small.

My criticism and feedback are heavily sugarcoated, but not to the extent of some people here who sit on the fence to appease everyone without making any real points. I have said my piece and I am leaving it at that. I do not want to keep going in circles on this.

 

[Icarus Media]

the takes of "heh skip bros just wanna goon lol" bra its a fucking porn game. the dev should know their audience is here MAINLY for the porn. also hot take but if it took you 3 months to make 15 minutes of a game (that had no scenes lewd or otherwise) then maybe to dont drop the update without anything to show for it. honestly im more frustrated by the white knighting then this dud update. lets just admit that 90 days for 15 minutes of flat text on still images is disappointing even if it's a masterpiece (which it isnt, no offence dev)

 

[Strangerdangererer]

There is valid critique here. There is also doom posting, but just as much, if not more, white knighting that defends everything to the grave. I do not agree with either extreme. People keep replying to me to argue the semantics of what I am saying or to nitpick it, which is what is happening here too. You are also misrepresenting my “not sick that long” comment. In an older post I said if we are generous we could give him a week, I had not read the part in the credits about a month. Later I said even if we are extremely generous and say a month, my point was still the same. It was about removing time from how long it took to release. You are reaching here, trying to paint me and others in a bad light for what feels like no reason, which comes across as white knighting.

For me, the main issue is the time it took to write this update. I am not a fan of the direction the futa on futa route has taken. There are now too many characters, and it is turning into a sex fest. It took almost a year to get back to the netori route, and the update we got was extremely short and lacking despite the long wait. This is feedback I have seen echoed in other comments. There is constructive, legitimate criticism and there is negative feedback, but the level of white knighting in these comments is equally, if not more, excessive. If the dev wants to slow down and add more buildup with dialogue-heavy updates, that is fine and even a good idea from time to time, but it should not take three months to release something this small.

Brother, it's not "white knighting" if some of us disagree with the currently loud negative sentiment in the thread. Nobody's even saying you're not allowed to be unsatisfied, they're just not agreeing. It's patently ridiculous to compare some of us saying "well hey I think there's a good reason for this update to be the way it is" with asinine shit like "wow shit update guess Scarlet is chasing the futa/futa cuck bag now". And yeah, are some posts (myself included) being a bit dismissive of the negativity? Sure. It's easy to be that way when over half the posts voicing their displeasure are such incredible nothingburgers.

Also, I've already said I sympathize with several of these voiced frustrations, so I have no idea why you're acting like I don't other than convenience. I completely understand where the actual constructive criticism is coming from, I'm just not seeing nearly as much of it as you're claiming to.

Also also, I'm not trying to "reach" to "paint you and others in a bad light" or whatever. I literally just personally believe framing Scarlet's illness in that way was a shitty approach. That's it. I'm not trying to accrue morality points in some grand, invisible forum dick measuring contest between two sides.