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LoC Disciple
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The promised big patch in a couple weeks, if it even happens (hopium exists considering a bug fix and QOL patch is already out), better AT LEAST add the NPC sex animations and the other Faye animations that're actually on the map
Come on, we need more of her. The milk machine one IS in there, we know they have the technology.
Come on, we need more of her. The milk machine one IS in there, we know they have the technology.
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Hater's gonna hate, but as an early $$ supporter of this game, I gotta say: I dropped by support after my personal tolerance and realities, but three years later That Dev still managed to produce a mostly finished product. Sure there's lots of work to be done in accordance with the consistent delays, but stop an think...
Most supporters quit long ago, yet progress continues. That's more honorable than 98% of other patreon projects!
This community is the hardest to please in the H-game circuit. Harsh reviews are expected here.
I ask, show me a perfect game! I've been following since LineMarvel so I'm hard to impress. Sure there are highlights, but this is the FIRST AND ONLY patreon game IVE SEEN "FINISHED"
(personally i prefer subscribestar and less limitations on dev content)
Most supporters quit long ago, yet progress continues. That's more honorable than 98% of other patreon projects!
This community is the hardest to please in the H-game circuit. Harsh reviews are expected here.
I ask, show me a perfect game! I've been following since LineMarvel so I'm hard to impress. Sure there are highlights, but this is the FIRST AND ONLY patreon game IVE SEEN "FINISHED"
(personally i prefer subscribestar and less limitations on dev content)
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I'd hardly call it finished. Playable and beatable yes, but it's not finished.
I call that last bit "polish" but yea I agree for $$ dev should have got some help in finishing (hindsight is 20/20), but I expect at start there was lots of voice acting/ artwork help but over time all that was lost leaving lone devs to finish, but they did and that's worth noting vs other patreon projects.
What's better projecthelius? and delta zone? both have basic pay to play in place. You support and lose all benefits if you don't continue to pay!
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I wonder how much time, effort and money was wasted on all the unnecessary lore and voice acting just to have - what I imagine to be - the majority of players skipping over it all.
I felt an early schism between the art department, story department, and game implementation (mechanics) dept. End product is result of "team" which again is stronger than most patreon projects!
I feel average player is lost on databanks and story, but only time will tell. This game will exist 10-20 years from now; how will others fare?
I don't get it? How do you shift back without everything resetting in the room?
DJRD11
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Somewhere near that area will be a portal to the B-side map. Navigate that to that specific spot and there will be a portal into the enclosed room. There are a few of those type puzzles in this particular pain in the ass map.
I'm doing zero Damage to the boss. Am i supposed to out last them or something?
DJRD11
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Use charge attacks, match the element he's using or wait for him to shift to the one you want to work on.
98% of patreon projects also have communities around them questioning if any progress is being made much like this one, and much like this one the answer is usually "no". So I'm not sure that's a statistic you want to go with lol. And I'll bet you anything that 98% of projects if given the opportunity will also draw out their development over 9 years if given the opportunity to. Like I've said before in this thread, we didn't need to see constant progress updates or trials or anything but the one and only thing you need to do is not give people reason to think you are milking the patreon for money while not working on the game and given the state this game has released in along with the years of promises, release dates, and other stuff I really struggle to be convinced that he wasn't just milking the patreon. If not in the last year, then in years prior.
"""Finished""" indeed. This game has been nearly "finished" for more than 3 years now if the progress reports and blog posts are to be believed. This is why haters exist, the game being released into an incomplete state is secondary, the main focus is on HW and the promises or lies said. Is it a coincidence that the only 2 complete levels (Fire and Electric) are the only 2 levels we got to see demo's for because he had to release them to prove progress was being made? Frankly, I don't know but how does one turn a 5 stage platformer with a million+ dollar budget into a 9+ year long development cycle which releases not only incomplete, but with demo text that was written 3-5+ years ago still in it... add onto the constant review deleting, reporting of any posts critical of him or the game, and stalking of places where discussion happens he's not exactly hard to dislike. I don't personally hate him, but this release has left me sorely disappointed in him.
The perfect game is completely subjective to each person, and each person has their own idea in their head of what the gameplay : porn ratio should be and what type of gameplay or porn they even like, no one is saying FF had to be the perfect game but when you have a dev who makes a big deal about wanting to make a game that "isn't just a porn game" and you repeatedly tell people the game is nearly complete for years only for players to discover "no it ain't" there are some hard questions that need to be asked. I've been working under the assumption for years that he was not milking the patreon and was simply incompetent, but the absolute state this game released in really throws that into question. It especially doesn't help when many of his detractors (myself included) have warned him years in advance that some of his choices were silly, such as the 21 endings, the silver databases, spending so much on voice acting, having such a heavy focus on story, and some of the gameplay issues.
I'm starting to think its time to petition for a "patreon" tag for games because anytime I see a patreon linked on the thread OP it's almost synonymous with "5+ years of dev cycles to not release a game while collecting monthly paychecks.".
EDIT: To add on a point I just thought of. This dev was willing to delay the game and miss release dates 7+ times, but wasn't willing to delay the game 1 month to fix serious issues in the "soft" launch?
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ALDragonus
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You need to use Cartography Brush (More damage the further the bullet travels) and Four-Leaf Clover (Shots split the lower your health) to maximize the damage (reduce your HP a little before the battle - press [H] then leave the stun state then do it again till you are as small as possible without KOing yourself.
Does anyone have a save right after the strong robot boss? I want to see the defeat scenes, but my game messed up my save.
JUDAEL
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ppl givinge 5 stars to this are probably under some kind of drug
I'm under the impression that they had to lock in a release date with steam based on the stage of development the game was at for some reason, and they were "too far into the development process" to release it EA. IDK to what extent that is true, but that's what some people have represented in this thread.