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The writing is, by tlaero.
The rendering here was done by phreaky though. tlaero and him collaborated on this and a few other games. Pandora, and the Dreaming with Elsa series the rendering was done by Mortze, who also does the rendering for Gates: The Opening.
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Thanks for this, been a while. Was thinking about playing this one again with the release of the new game but was concerned that the renders would be too dated. Well, they certainly are dated, but the sample pics prove that my imagination was running wild and they are not as bad I had feared.
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Correct! I went to download this but realized I already had it, and the old one was over 3x the size (132mb vs 40mb)
The readmes compared:
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@Thrownaway13 Here's a lossless version of the Anniversary Edition if you want to add it as a download:
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I did a diff between the two versions and the only difference is literally the compression on the images, so I combined the two and used the higher quality images. They all have the same resolution, but the Anniversary edition's have a bit more artifacting on them. I did some preliminary testing, works perfectly, and I have no reason to believe it won't work exactly the same, since resolutions are identical and it's being loaded by filename into your browser without any sort of check. Enjoy!
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I stole a walkthrough from somewhere ages ago - before I found F95 - Probably that Lagoon place, but I don't recall.
Because I don't trust Virgin to be online 24/7, despite the ridiculous monthly fee my broadband incurs, I copied and pasted it to the attached file - I just tried it out with the Anniversary Ed. seems OK up to date 7 - the threesome with Sandy is too much for me to take
Christina reminds me of my first: dirty & daring, lost my cherry to her arse as she was too sore for regular sex. Sandy reminds me of my wife when younger - if only I could go back 26 years and get those two pissed and locked in my room
Because I don't trust Virgin to be online 24/7, despite the ridiculous monthly fee my broadband incurs, I copied and pasted it to the attached file - I just tried it out with the Anniversary Ed. seems OK up to date 7 - the threesome with Sandy is too much for me to take
Christina reminds me of my first: dirty & daring, lost my cherry to her arse as she was too sore for regular sex. Sandy reminds me of my wife when younger - if only I could go back 26 years and get those two pissed and locked in my room
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I realize this upload might have gotten buried in my last post, but just wanted to illustrate the difference in quality between the images in each version. The Anniversary Edition images have some significant compression artifacts on top of the artifacting visible on the originals. No es bueno.
This combined version uses the updated code and save functionality of the Anniversary Edition release with the higher quality image files of the original. No need to make a masturbatory Sophie's Choice
This combined version uses the updated code and save functionality of the Anniversary Edition release with the higher quality image files of the original. No need to make a masturbatory Sophie's Choice
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I realize this upload might have gotten buried in my last post, but just wanted to illustrate the difference in quality between the images in each version. The Anniversary Edition images have some significant compression artifacts on top of the artifacting visible on the originals. No es bueno.
This combined version uses the updated code and save functionality of the Anniversary Edition release with the higher quality image files of the original. No need to make a masturbatory Sophie's Choice
Thanks for this. Not being an expert on the topic, it was hard for me to be sure if Tora's overly aggressive compression of images or Mortze's own admission of using lower level resolutions and short render times was the cause of the poor quality images in their games. They have said that we can't see the difference between the original and compressed images but your sample images clearly show the artifacts that I see in all their games.
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The first Christine was rendered by Phreaky, so hopefully Mortze has nothing to do with what happened here since all the rendering for this project was done in 2011 and all they did was compress it (which is sad, the old size was not bad at all, it's actually on the small side for a lot of stuff today.)
As far as for other more recent Tora games, that's something else. I hadn't heard about them doing this (I dropped their Patreon because Tlaero kept filling my inbox whining about how awful piracy was. Oh, irony). But yeah, Shorter render times will result in less complexity and math on a scene calculating exactly just how light affects the scene, reflecting off objects, partially penetrating stuff like skin and fabric, etc. Basically, less detail. Lower resolutions hide that lack of detail (A small 1080p screen like your phone looks amazing, while a 65"+ 1080p TV, you can start seeing the flaws the closer you get to it.
As far as compression goes, most times you can't really tell unless they released a higher resolution version of something for comparison, like we have here. Going back to the TV example, It's like how 1080p was great until you saw a 4k TV at the same size. Meanwhile, additional render time is like how you thought 4k was great until you saw HDR.
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Check four post above yours, my upload is still good, and honestly it's a better version than the ones linked in the original post.
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While I disagree with @shinonen that, while playing, the compressed images are recognizably different from the original uncompressed ones (those images you posted were seriously zoomed in), I also don't mind that you made the version with the old images. It should work fine. I'm pretty sure I didn't change any of the file names, I just ran them through a jpg compressor.
Compressing the images was completely my doing. Mortze gets none of the blame.
I'm pretty sure that if I made a test that randomly chose between an .8 jpg version and an a lossless one and had you pick if it was the "good" or "bad" one, the vast majority of people wouldn't do better than blind guessing. But, for that, everything takes up 1/10th as much space. I literally stopped playing Starship Inanna because I was annoyed at the file size for the amount of content.
That said, @shinonen, I'm completely open to the possibility of you having fighter jet pilot eyes that can see finer details than most of us. It's cool that you were able to make something that worked for you.
Tlaero
Compressing the images was completely my doing. Mortze gets none of the blame.
I'm pretty sure that if I made a test that randomly chose between an .8 jpg version and an a lossless one and had you pick if it was the "good" or "bad" one, the vast majority of people wouldn't do better than blind guessing. But, for that, everything takes up 1/10th as much space. I literally stopped playing Starship Inanna because I was annoyed at the file size for the amount of content.
That said, @shinonen, I'm completely open to the possibility of you having fighter jet pilot eyes that can see finer details than most of us. It's cool that you were able to make something that worked for you.
Tlaero