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VN Ren'Py Giant Guardians [v0.3.92] [Giant Guardians]

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MorallyLucky

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Y'all. It's a VN. A visual novel. Writing is a selling point, just as much as visuals.
But we are not even discussing the visuals, we are discussing the storytelling: that includes the writing, the plot, the setting, the characterization and worldbuilding. GG only outright fails at one of those and while it's worth criticizing the lack of proofreading, criticizing the writing itself seems like a reach. I'm not expecting much out of an amateurish fetish novel written by an ESL person, and I'm certainly not for jeopordizing the project's rigor over a measly improvement in writing through exorbitant commissions.


I'm absolutely certain the writing could, and should, be improved. That said, I don't agree with the idea that ESL speakers are incapable of reaching a decent level of quality. That’s just wrong and a bit patronizing.
As someone with a TEFL certificate that used to work with ESL students regularly, there absolutely are limits to how well the majority of ESL people can improve at English as it requires putting in over a hundred hours of work outside the classroom.
Ask yourself this question: why aren't you learning another language right now? There is nothing but perks in it for you, so if it's as simple as you describe it, why not work on improving yourself? I’m sure you have your reasons. Maybe time, motivation, other responsibilities? Those same reasons apply to pretty much everyone including the dev here.
 
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Possetermath

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But we are not even discussing the visuals, we are discussing the storytelling: that includes the writing, the plot, the setting, the characterization and worldbuilding. GG only outright fails at one of those and while it's worth criticizing the lack of proofreading, criticizing the writing itself seems like a reach. I'm not expecting much out of an amateurish fetish novel written by an ESL person, and I'm certainly not for jeopordizing the project's rigor over a measly improvement in writing through exorbitant commissions.




As someone with a TEFL certificate that used to work with ESL students regularly, there absolutely are limits to how well the majority of ESL people can improve at English as it requires putting in over a hundred hours of work outside the classroom.
Ask yourself this question: why aren't you learning another language right now? There is nothing but perks in it for you, so if it's as simple as you describe it, why not work on improving yourself? I’m sure you have your reasons. Maybe time, motivation, other responsibilities? Those same reasons apply to pretty much everyone including the dev here.
I get the sense that you're firmly against the idea of developers actively improving, but I genuinely don’t understand why. As you yourself noted, growth isn’t a binary state but a spectrum of continuous refinement. From an artistic standpoint, it’s like always drawing the same face, from the same angle, with the same expressions and colors. I doubt you’d argue that an artist is justified in never embracing variety, stylization, stronger anatomy, or overall quality. In this case, we’re seeing a repetitive narrative pattern caused by limited terminology and stagnant phrasing, "The Queen is big, I’m small and afraid"repeated without variation or flavour. It’s literally half of what makes a Visual Novel a visual novel! And just to be clear, I’m only asking for the minimal effort needed to reach a decent, readable standard , something that, over the past six months, still hasn’t been consistently delivered. Not Vladimir Nabokov
 

MorallyLucky

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I get the sense that you're firmly against the idea of developers actively improving, but I genuinely don’t understand why. As you yourself noted, growth isn’t a binary state but a spectrum of continuous refinement. From an artistic standpoint, it’s like always drawing the same face, from the same angle, with the same expressions and colors. I doubt you’d argue that an artist is justified in never embracing variety, stylization, stronger anatomy, or overall quality. In this case, we’re seeing a repetitive narrative pattern caused by limited terminology and stagnant phrasing, "The Queen is big, I’m small and afraid"repeated without variation or flavour. It’s literally half of what makes a Visual Novel a visual novel! And just to be clear, I’m only asking for the minimal effort needed to reach a decent, readable standard , something that, over the past six months, still hasn’t been consistently delivered. Not Vladimir Nabokov
No, not really. I'm willing to stand up for the dev exactly because they improved in other areas, just not writing specifically. Now if the work was just as shallow and tepid as it started off with an increase in support and nothing to show for it, I'd agree. In fact, I already think not having a proofreader to fix the grammar issues is ridiculous, but there's no reason to go the extra mile and ask for writing commissions of all things.

My main concern is the tradeoff: what if next month the dev caves, acknowledges he needs to improve the prose (not just the grammar) and now has to take time off active development, drops the biweekly schedule for a monthly one as he now has to improve his English and work on rewriting the script up to that point. Are you willing to take that? I certainly am not. My main concern is with actually finishing the project first, but polishing the writing and things like that can always be done later.
 

nikkieliot

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Bad grammar can ruin the experience if bad enough however there is like over 5000 lines in the game of course there is going to be a few grammar errors here and there but there is so few errors it doesn't take you out of the experience especially knowing english is not the devs first language it what makes it more impressive
yes but this game is not that case... I have noticed very few errors but it NOT affected my experience and as you say there is insane amount of text. and again 2 guys!! this game is at the moment my Nr1. I also mentioned that it would be good some sex scenes fully animated but that would be deadly for those 2 guys when it comes to amount of effort and work.
 

Brucasco

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A question for anyone who is on GG's Discord: The devs have some kind of roadmap posted for the future of the game or something?.

I am just curious of what plans they have to continue developing the story.

Like how the war between Viridice and Lycalis will go on, or if we ever will find out who is the misterious giantess that appears in the MC's dreams.
 

zarqupang

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i like the art the writing is ok i mean i can't read are write the well. hell i am also ner sighted in on eye and far sighted in the other so screwed any way lol
 
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You're probably less bothered by it since you're an ESL speaker too. I'm absolutely certain the writing could, and should, be improved. That said, I don't agree with the idea that ESL speakers are incapable of reaching a decent level of quality. That’s just wrong and a bit patronizing.
Bad grammar can ruin the experience if bad enough however there is like over 5000 lines in the game of course there is going to be a few grammar errors here and there but there is so few errors it doesn't take you out of the experience especially knowing english is not the devs first language it what makes it more impressive
I'll be absolutely honest, grammatical errors in this day and age in any piece you are selling or whatever really you are trying to get $ for is unacceptable. All it takes is pasting your written text into an LLM with a prompt something along the lines of "Correct only grammatical errors, do not change the core text unless it truly doesn't make sense", this is 2025. You can do this in a matter of seconds, and if you are concerned about privacy..., there are even private options. Native speaker or not, you can make the effort to correct something.
 

nikkieliot

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guys is this email giantguardiansgame@gmail working? I sent some suggestions there but it came to me as undelivered saying it does not exist.
 

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Grammar oversights aside.... Did some looking back. In the past over the last three dozen updates Pyeka has currently the longest gap, and the fewest amount of updates, including one fewer than Kive, who is consistently amongst the bottom few least liked characters in their patron poll, where Pyeka is consistently in the middle.

I'd wonder if this is due to the double update, but we've had a couple characters since who got both double updates as well as several MORE updates at the same time since, and that Pyeka double update was nearly two years ago. Since then (if I didn't miss one) has only gotten three updates by the dev total.

I hope snek waifu gets some love soon, since Diula got an update after being the longest without one, but even then Diula has gotten a solid bit more thrown their way in the past year or so.
 

Mama Mia

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I have no holy scripture today. Plant wife is update, and I shall share with you all. Please enjoy.


Giant Guardians version 0.3.78


Here is the new version.
We hope that you enjoy it! ( ̄▽ ̄)
Windows link
Mac link

NEW CONTENT
  • Main route extended: Regina
  • Main route extended: Diula
  • Main route extended: Naya
  • 3 New illustrated scenes (16 variations)
UPGRADES
  • Texts and bugs fixes
GENERAL NOTES
- At some points, the game could crash if you use old saved games from previous versions. If that happens, start a new game and skip seen texts with "Ctrl" until you reach the new content.
- Some antivirus will show a false positive or delete the .exe file. You can safely white-list the game.
- Remember that the game has lots of story/dialog variations depending on your choices, so we highly recommend to keep the "skip Unseen Text" disabled (white) under the Skip options, otherwise, you'll miss a lot of content
Does anyone have the alternative link that isn't mega or that has a speed restriction?
 

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One complaint I have with the queen's route is there doesn't seem to be a middle ground path- it's either suicidal defiant backtalk or obsequious sycophantry. Where are the "this woman scares the shit out of me I don't agree with the things she does but I enjoy breathing and the other girls so I'm gonna nod my head and appease her" options? Even Shiena had a straight-up "I'm only doing this to find answers about myself" option (and unlike the queen has no connected giantesses who's routes you could hop to either).
 

Possetermath

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One complaint I have with the queen's route is there doesn't seem to be a middle ground path- it's either suicidal defiant backtalk or obsequious sycophantry. Where are the "this woman scares the shit out of me I don't agree with the things she does but I enjoy breathing and the other girls so I'm gonna nod my head and appease her" options? Even Shiena had a straight-up "I'm only doing this to find answers about myself" option (and unlike the queen has no connected giantesses who's routes you could hop to either).
Since it’s probably a short route, it defines its branches quickly and roughly.
 

Brucasco

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One complaint I have with the queen's route is there doesn't seem to be a middle ground path- it's either suicidal defiant backtalk or obsequious sycophantry. Where are the "this woman scares the shit out of me I don't agree with the things she does but I enjoy breathing and the other girls so I'm gonna nod my head and appease her" options? Even Shiena had a straight-up "I'm only doing this to find answers about myself" option (and unlike the queen has no connected giantesses who's routes you could hop to either).
I think that at some point the Timfalme route should also include more interactions with Cygnia. For the moment she only has relevance in Croixelle's route, in which she is sort of a matchmaker between her and the MC lol
 
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Luminosity247

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I really love this game, but it feels almost too big/spread out. I think this is probably the one game where I spent the most time backtracking between different updates, and there are so many decision points that cause slight changes that it makes it tough keeping save files for everything. I kinda wish there was a chapter select of sorts that just got you onto a path with some reasonable flags and scores that don't lock you out of anything further down the route.
 

MorallyLucky

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One complaint I have with the queen's route is there doesn't seem to be a middle ground path- it's either suicidal defiant backtalk or obsequious sycophantry. Where are the "this woman scares the shit out of me I don't agree with the things she does but I enjoy breathing and the other girls so I'm gonna nod my head and appease her" options? Even Shiena had a straight-up "I'm only doing this to find answers about myself" option (and unlike the queen has no connected giantesses who's routes you could hop to either).
I don't think Timfalme is the actual queen's route, the equivalent of Timfalme is the Heaven Path/Hell Path/Neutral Path where it serves as an introduction for a set of characters after which it branches out (e.g. staying in Timfalme branches out into the Croixelle route). So far the likely candidates for a route in the zone are Helga, the Queen and the Gemini. I want to say Cygnia is also a strong candidate due to her unique design but apparently she's in the files of secondary characters according to:


What I would assume to be actual side characters such as Anabel, Dextra, Eliz, Aisling, Cygnia, Evalin, Sadia and Eliha, Ivory, Kora, Petra, Mel, Minbe, Niniel, ...Some unnamed demon...?, Fantasma, Unnamed zombie girl, Praila, Reiko, etc. etc.

It's where the non-giantess sprites are too, like Brais for example.
 

zarqupang

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so question would you say the queen cares for her people are is the queen a tiyrent
 
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