VN Ren'Py Giant Guardians [v0.3.92] [Giant Guardians]

[ControllerMan]

It's time for another tierlist this time, based on how well they treat the MC (best case scenario) and how far their relationship is progressed (so it's a mix of both)

 

[Johnjacky]

It's time for another tierlist this time, based on how well they treat the MC (best case scenario) and how far their relationship is progressed (so it's a mix of both) View attachment 5299401

Damn, the rhino chic must be truly evil then for ending up on E. Haven't played that route yet.

 

[Durpi]

Damn, the rhino chic must be truly evil then for ending up on E. Haven't played that route yet.

Yakku isn't really that evil. She's more a very dominant cold "ice queen" that has as the main guardian of the hell kingdom, very low tolerance for disobedience or mercy. On her romance route, she actually gets more gentle with the MC and I like how the relationship actually evolves. Still very femdom heavy content through, so not for everyone.

 

[Johnjacky]

Yakku isn't really that evil. She's more a very dominant cold "ice queen" that has as the main guardian of the hell kingdom, very low tolerance for disobedience or mercy. On her romance route, she actually gets more gentle with the MC and I like how the relationship actually evolves. Still very femdom heavy content through, so not for everyone.

Hot! I just thought she probably treats the MC very horribly cos of the criteria of the tier list. Anyway, can't wait to see her route soon.

 

[Spontaneous combustion]

Hot! I just thought she probably treats the MC very horribly cos of the criteria of the tier list. Anyway, can't wait to see her route soon.

Can't wait to see her route soon... to be updated? She is already in the game, just avoid sticking to Kendra or Nyxmay and you'll get to her.

 

[Yamoshii91123]

Well if you're on Naya's route, depending on what you pick you can pretty much make her more wise but not outright make her into a Madea 2.0, just enough so that she's visibly making efforts to use her head to think clearly in regards to the kingdom politics.
In Regina's case, you can basically make her more self aware about how much her anger can blind her to what's around her, both in a metaphorical and literal sense, the former in the case of friendly fire for potential innocent casualties, the latter in regards to Naya trying to tell the truth but Regina almost ending her life from blind rage.
Either way the one truly at fault is the Queen for not simply turning down any consent to start a war between the two kingdoms the above mentioned two were forced into, especially after hearing them out.

In Timfalme's route the queen uses her power to see into the MC's mind, so why doesn't she use that same power to see Naya or Regina's memories, and once she realizes that neither is responsible for what happened in the other's kingdom, the logical option and the one I think a ruler would have would be to send his soldiers to reinforce the borders of both kingdoms, and ask the guardians to investigate within their kingdoms.

 

[MorallyLucky]

Damn, the rhino chic must be truly evil then for ending up on E. Haven't played that route yet.

It depends on which yakuu route you go with. The good yakuu route she's not really bad at all, she's at worst B tier in that. But bad Yakuu is easily D or worse, yes. Also, I don't know why that list has Maryen's alter ego but not characters like Margarita. Also, I feel like the only character deserving of E is Nyxmay considering she literally makes you experience death over and over again.

Also, I don't know why Pyeka is that low? She easily one of the nicest giantesses, unless you piss her off.

 

[Johnjacky]

In Timfalme's route the queen uses her power to see into the MC's mind, so why doesn't she use that same power to see Naya or Regina's memories, and once she realizes that neither is responsible for what happened in the other's kingdom, the logical option and the one I think a ruler would have would be to send his soldiers to reinforce the borders of both kingdoms, and ask the guardians to investigate within their kingdoms.

That's actually a very good point, and a visible plothole I think.

I could see it as not wanting to treat her fellow leaders like children, because they establish it pretty early on that the queen isn't lording over them like a regular empress, more like allies with some mutual respect. So I guess she has to respect them as leaders and not treat them like children.

But honestly, they're acting like children so I say just go for it. Ask them "Do you submit to getting your memories checked?" But that would kind of put them on the spot, especially if one of them is actually guilty.

 

[MorallyLucky]

In Timfalme's route the queen uses her power to see into the MC's mind, so why doesn't she use that same power to see Naya or Regina's memories, and once she realizes that neither is responsible for what happened in the other's kingdom, the logical option and the one I think a ruler would have would be to send his soldiers to reinforce the borders of both kingdoms, and ask the guardians to investigate within their kingdoms.

I'm pretty sure the queen can't do that to beings as powerful as the guardians. Again, a lot of things that normally apply to tiny people don't apply to giantesses because they have high magic resistance.

 

[Johnjacky]

It depends on which yakuu route you go with. The good yakuu route she's not really bad at all, she's at worst B tier in that. But bad Yakuu is easily D or worse, yes. Also, I don't know why that list has Maryen's alter ego but not characters like Margarita. Also, I feel like the only character deserving of E is Nyxmay considering she literally makes you experience death over and over again.

Also, I don't know why Pyeka is that low? She easily one of the nicest giantesses, unless you piss her off.

Well, he did say it's a mix of how well they treat MC and how good their routes are. Nyxmay sounds actually crazy, and I could tell that the first few interactions. I don't fuck with crazy. Kendra is still reasonable - not my favorite but curiosity got the better of me.

 

[Johnjacky]

I'm pretty sure the queen can't do that to beings as powerful as the guardians. Again, a lot of things that normally apply to tiny people don't apply to giantesses because they have high magic resistance.

Very good point. And if she keeps doing stuff like that every time there's a conflict, people will grow tired of that and just rebel.

 

[Spontaneous combustion]

It's time for another tierlist this time, based on how well they treat the MC (best case scenario) and how far their relationship is progressed (so it's a mix of both) View attachment 5299401

This tierlist showing both affection and romance progression is very confusing. Croixelle route, for example, has much more romance than Makla or Kive routes, despite her being more cold with MC (can't really say that Kive or Makla are much "warmer" towards him, Croixelle is just trying to hide her feelings).

Naya loves MC as one would love a perfectly cooked steak, not as a partner.

There is no way that somehow Yakuu treats MC worse / has less romance development than Kendra. For the most part of her route, all that Kendra did was reflecting on her relationship with Maryen, it looks like she's not really into MC at all. Only in the middle of the route she appreciates MC for the first time (I'm talking about Vai'Klis house, when they were casting away ghosts), the rest of it is basically treating him as her posession.

Nyxmay is unfairly low because her "romance" side collides badly with her "treatment" side. She opens her most sacred memories to MC every night, but at the same time keeps beating most lethal bodily harm world record every afternoon, so it's confusing.

Pyeka is... hard to tell, but definitely more than B. Yes, she sees MC more as a very lovely thing to have, but that's the closest you can get from a Homaspernia giantess in owner-slave relationship. MC is more like a super VIP slave to her, yet she appreciates his kind heart at least.

Not sure if Diula belongs in A, she's a bit slow after all, so it's hard to determine what exactly does she feel towards MC. Same goes for Sheina, but because it's her thing to be teasing and all, so it's also hard to say if she "loves" MC or just having a good time with him.

By the way, Geminigems didn't make it to the tierlist. I bet they would go in B tier, because they are not that much into MC as a partner, just very kinky about his size. Also Helga, but she would probably go into "Don't know yet".

 

[Johnjacky]

Getting PTSD flashbacks from the name Petra

 

[Spontaneous combustion]

I'm pretty sure the queen can't do that to beings as powerful as the guardians. Again, a lot of things that normally apply to tiny people don't apply to giantesses because they have high magic resistance.

That, and also political reasons. Orphelith is an arbiter, not a ruler. Going inside guardians minds and making decisions for them is clearly a sovereignty violation. After all, her rules on "allowing" the war are based on mutual agreement, so technically any kingdom can break those rules, they'll just have to deal with the bigger fish if they do.

 

[MorallyLucky]

This tierlist showing both affection and romance progression is very confusing. Croixelle route, for example, has much more romance than Makla or Kive routes, despite her being more cold with MC (can't really say that Kive or Makla are much "warmer" towards him, Croixelle is just trying to hide her feelings).

Naya loves MC as one would love a perfectly cooked steak, not as a partner.

There is no way that somehow Yakuu treats MC worse / has less romance development than Kendra. For the most part of her route, all that Kendra did was reflecting on her relationship with Maryen, it looks like she's not really into MC at all. Only in the middle of the route she appreciates MC for the first time (I'm talking about Vai'Klis house, when they were casting away ghosts), the rest of it is basically treating him as her posession.

Nyxmay is unfairly low because her "romance" side collides badly with her "treatment" side. She opens her most sacred memories to MC every night, but at the same time keeps beating most lethal bodily harm world record every afternoon, so it's confusing.

Pyeka is... hard to tell, but definitely more than B. Yes, she sees MC more as a very lovely thing to have, but that's the closest you can get from a Homaspernia giantess in owner-slave relationship. MC is more like a super VIP slave to her, yet she appreciates his kind heart at least.

Not sure if Diula belongs in A, she's a bit slow after all, so it's hard to determine what exactly does she feel towards MC. Same goes for Sheina, but because it's her thing to be teasing and all, so it's also hard to say if she "loves" MC or just having a good time with him.

By the way, Geminigems didn't make it to the tierlist. I bet they would go in B tier, because they are not that much into MC as a partner, just very kinky about his size. Also Helga, but she would probably go into "Don't know yet".

I disagree geminigems gotta be at least A-. Sure they're horny around him but they still appreciate him and are super nice in person. We will have to see their route officially start first.

I do agree with Pyeka though, her love always felt a bit... off? Even though she's super nice, it doesn't feel like the type of kindness you show to another person but rather a pet. So I wouldn't go as far as call it "slavery" but more like a little pet she plays with.

 

[ControllerMan]

It depends on which yakuu route you go with. The good yakuu route she's not really bad at all, she's at worst B tier in that. But bad Yakuu is easily D or worse, yes. Also, I don't know why that list has Maryen's alter ego but not characters like Margarita. Also, I feel like the only character deserving of E is Nyxmay considering she literally makes you experience death over and over again.

Also, I don't know why Pyeka is that low? She easily one of the nicest giantesses, unless you piss her off.

Relationship wise they are not that far yet imo but yeah one tier higher

 

[ControllerMan]

This tierlist showing both affection and romance progression is very confusing. Croixelle route, for example, has much more romance than Makla or Kive routes, despite her being more cold with MC (can't really say that Kive or Makla are much "warmer" towards him, Croixelle is just trying to hide her feelings).

Naya loves MC as one would love a perfectly cooked steak, not as a partner.

There is no way that somehow Yakuu treats MC worse / has less romance development than Kendra. For the most part of her route, all that Kendra did was reflecting on her relationship with Maryen, it looks like she's not really into MC at all. Only in the middle of the route she appreciates MC for the first time (I'm talking about Vai'Klis house, when they were casting away ghosts), the rest of it is basically treating him as her posession.

Nyxmay is unfairly low because her "romance" side collides badly with her "treatment" side. She opens her most sacred memories to MC every night, but at the same time keeps beating most lethal bodily harm world record every afternoon, so it's confusing.

Pyeka is... hard to tell, but definitely more than B. Yes, she sees MC more as a very lovely thing to have, but that's the closest you can get from a Homaspernia giantess in owner-slave relationship. MC is more like a super VIP slave to her, yet she appreciates his kind heart at least.

Not sure if Diula belongs in A, she's a bit slow after all, so it's hard to determine what exactly does she feel towards MC. Same goes for Sheina, but because it's her thing to be teasing and all, so it's also hard to say if she "loves" MC or just having a good time with him.

By the way, Geminigems didn't make it to the tierlist. I bet they would go in B tier, because they are not that much into MC as a partner, just very kinky about his size. Also Helga, but she would probably go into "Don't know yet".

Eh, in the gentle route Kendra clearly cares about not hurting the mc, but yeah i was a bit harsh on yakuu, i admit im biased.

 

[Yamoshii91123]

I'm pretty sure the queen can't do that to beings as powerful as the guardians. Again, a lot of things that normally apply to tiny people don't apply to giantesses because they have high magic resistance.

It has been said many times that the queen is the most powerful giantess on the continent, I doubt she can't do it.

 

[Yamoshii91123]

That, and also political reasons. Orphelith is an arbiter, not a ruler. Going inside guardians minds and making decisions for them is clearly a sovereignty violation. After all, her rules on "allowing" the war are based on mutual agreement, so technically any kingdom can break those rules, they'll just have to deal with the bigger fish if they do.

But that's what an arbiter does: make decisions, and in any case, after seeing the guardians' memories, she could say, "As I see it, neither kingdom is guilty." And then ask the guardians what they prefer: continuing the war or avoiding conflict. That way, she doesn't make the decision and gives them the freedom to choose with more information.

 

[Yamoshii91123]

That's actually a very good point, and a visible plothole I think.

I could see it as not wanting to treat her fellow leaders like children, because they establish it pretty early on that the queen isn't lording over them like a regular empress, more like allies with some mutual respect. So I guess she has to respect them as leaders and not treat them like children.

But honestly, they're acting like children so I say just go for it. Ask them "Do you submit to getting your memories checked?" But that would kind of put them on the spot, especially if one of them is actually guilty.

The queen is a conflict mediator, and if the guardians were to accept her, they would have to agree with the method she uses to resolve the problem.