VN Ren'Py Giant Guardians [v0.3.93] [Giant Guardians]

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nikkieliot

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On Homasparnia info (on the first page of this thread) its said Homasparnia got the largest giantess population on the continent on top of that the terrain is literally scorched earth plus the Homasparnia is not just going to take it its gonna fight back I believe it would be almost impossible to destroy Homasparnia without a sluggish and brutal campain its good to note even if Timfalme is stronger than other kingdoms there is no large gap of strengt in between. And just like what I said before invading Homa would do no positive the people would still hold the same belief and values as before and under new rule things would go back to normal yet again like nothing was changed to begin with.
its funny when there's largest giantess population there and all of them are cruel (vore,crush) that there is still regular size population. one would expect that resources will run out very quickly based on giantess population's "hobbies" .
 

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Johnjacky

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Real talk tho, given what we know about the Queen, what do you think are her reasons for tolerating Homaspernia? A critical resource for the continent? Blackmail that could jeopardize her rule? A blind spot born from her desire to preserve the last remaining kingdoms, no matter what the cost? Convenience since they get rid of people in the Neutral Territory? Maybe Orpelith was born in Homaspernia before coming to what is now known as Timfalme? All of the above?
I remember at some point Orphelith says something like "I would have got rid of neutral territories long ago if I thought there no good people there." I'm not 100% sure if Orphelith herself says this or one of her close folks like Sheina or the geminghems say it. But basically what it means is the queen doesn't believe in genocide (even though I have an inkling she's had to do it at some point in order to unify the continent. In one of the newer updates we even learn that she made it so that 2 kingdoms just got destroyed. I don't think the people were massacred, but u never know. What we know is the queen lead the charge against them in those wars)

I think the queen tolerates places like Homaspernia and the neutral territories is because
1. There is no way to get rid of Homas or change it for the better, because it is corrupt to the core (aside from total fookin genocide with a nuke). I discuss this in great detail in some of my other posts. Mainly the leadership is rotten and their economy relies on slavery and dubious shit, and the fact that it is a supposed safe haven for the undesirables.
2. She won't genocide the place because she's aware there are lots of innocent ppl trapped there.
3. She'd probably bite more than she can chew because that place has the highest giantess population. Orphie is OP, but I'm not sure even she can fight armies of giantesses herself.
4. Orphie has seen generations of rulers come and gone, and maybe she's aware that if she's too strict with enforcing standardised laws everywhere, the nasty elements of this world would evolve into something more sinister. If there's no place for vampires, undeads, and sadistic giantesses to live freely, they might get desperate enough to create something dangerous. So that is why in most societies, there's always the shady "red light" districts that aren't regulated too closely unless they have enough manpower to enforce their order everywhere. If Orphie tries to enforce Timfalme's laws as far as Homas, she'll probably be stretched too thin.

Again, a lot of this is just speculation, we don't know for sure. If it was me, I'd just nuke the place and call it a day, consequences be damned. But that's why I'd make a terrible ruler
 
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Ya talking about your brain? I need more info...
Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 359, in bootstrap
File "renpy/main.py", line 416, in main
File "renpy/loader.py", line 250, in index_archives
File "renpy/loader.py", line 122, in read_index
File "renpy/compat\pickle.py", line 100, in loads
File "renpy/compat\pickle.py", line 97, in load
UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xed in position 27: invalid continuation byte

Before loading the script.
UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xed in position 27: invalid continuation byte

Try running the game instant crash
 

Johnjacky

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On Homasparnia info (on the first page of this thread) its said Homasparnia got the largest giantess population on the continent on top of that the terrain is literally scorched earth plus the Homasparnia is not just going to take it its gonna fight back I believe it would be almost impossible to destroy Homasparnia without a sluggish and brutal campain its good to note even if Timfalme is stronger than other kingdoms there is no large gap of strengt in between. And just like what I said before invading Homa would do no positive the people would still hold the same belief and values as before and under new rule things would go back to normal yet again like nothing was changed to begin with.
ur 100% right about that. That's why i never said Orphie should do it, I said I would do it if i could. Like a genie gives me a single wish for this world, that's what id ask for. just poof
 

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Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 359, in bootstrap
File "renpy/main.py", line 416, in main
File "renpy/loader.py", line 250, in index_archives
File "renpy/loader.py", line 122, in read_index
File "renpy/compat\pickle.py", line 100, in loads
File "renpy/compat\pickle.py", line 97, in load
UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xed in position 27: invalid continuation byte

Before loading the script.
UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xed in position 27: invalid continuation byte

Try running the game instant crash
Hmm, I don't think thats an error I can fix easily. Ima try and recrompress and then not rebuild.
If that also doesn't work, ima ask BlindPyrate if he can try again.
 
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Johnjacky

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its funny when there's largest giantess population there and all of them are cruel (vore,crush) that there is still regular size population. one would expect that resources will run out very quickly based on giantess population's "hobbies" .
what resources we talking about? I actually didn't give it much thought
 

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The file size is supposed to be smal as its compressed lol.
flawless logic lol.
The on you sent on the thread was 250 MB, But just for comparison, this is the zip file from page 1, which read 2.4 gb:

The difference is too big, so maybe you just gave the wrong files?
 
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flawless logic lol. But just for comparison, this is the zip file from page 1, which read 2.4 gb:
I am aware of that, like I said I made a compression. I reduced image, audio and video (if there were any videos) quality to reduce size.
The game should still work. Something went wrong when rebuilding it, it seems. I just recompressed it and it works now.
My compression post will be updated in a few mins.
 

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I am aware of that, like I said I made a compression. I reduced image, audio and video (if there were any videos) quality to reduce size.
The game should still work. Something went wrong when rebuilding it, it seems. I just recompressed it and it works now.
My compression post will be updated in a few mins.
Sorry, I really don't know too well how compression works. I wasn't aware it was possible to compress a 3gig file to that size at the expense of reduced resolution. Appreciate the efforts
 

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Sorry, I really don't know too well how compression works. I wasn't aware it was possible to compress a 3gig file to that size at the expense of reduced resolution. Appreciate the efforts
Heh, no resolution is reduced, while I can do that too its a mess as I need to change the code.
More like quality reduction but often its barely noticable. But for this game it seems the dev just uses unoptimized PNGs from the beginning thats why the size is so heavily reduced.
If he were to optimize the pngs himself like for example by converting them to 97% quality webps, he would get the game down to like 600 MB.
 

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Real talk tho, given what we know about the Queen, what do you think are her reasons for tolerating Homaspernia? A critical resource for the continent? Blackmail that could jeopardize her rule? A blind spot born from her desire to preserve the last remaining kingdoms, no matter what the cost? Convenience since they get rid of people in the Neutral Territory? Maybe Orpelith was born in Homaspernia before coming to what is now known as Timfalme? All of the above?
Although I don't think any of those theories would turn out to be true, they'd surely make for a juicy plot twist :sneaky:
 

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Heh, no resolution is reduced, while I can do that too its a mess as I need to change the code.
More like quality reduction but often its barely noticable. But for this game it seems the dev just uses unoptimized PNGs from the beginning thats why the size is so heavily reduced.
If he were to optimize the pngs himself like for example by converting them to 97% quality webps, he would get the game down to like 600 MB.
I did wonder that cos this game seems to have quite a size for something that's only 2d.
 
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I feel that one of this games biggest weaknesses is its timeframe. Things are just going too quickly, especially with some of the routes. Like, I get why things are like this, it’s probably more to do with making it so that developing the game and story doesn’t become too unwieldy, or making the game take forever to play. That and with how this game updates, making it so that it doesn’t take till 2070 to finish. But still, the developer could’ve planned better or used more or bigger time skips or something. I don’t it mind that much personally, but still there’s been moments where I’ve got taken out of it by how fast things are moving. Honestly, the thing that takes me out of the game the most is the grammar usually. Christ, the developers need to hire an editor or something.

On a completely unrelated note, always find it funny when people on this thread get into the Homaspernia delenda est mode.
guilty as charged, your honor. But I'm new here in my defense (kinda)
 
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you couldn't be more wrong about this. I stress this again and again that the so called "criminals" could be completely innocent people who were enslaved and then declared criminal
"could" doing a lot of heavy lifting here, when not a single guy that we've seen so far prosecuted under Homa laws was innocent.

The offences that can land you in the ring with Kendra and Nyxmay range from being a mass rapist to... being completely innocent
...no?


One of those people crushed under Nyxmay in the ring could be the relative of someone who got crushed by Kendra in some neutral territory (cos it's so fun, oopsies!) and decided to rebel
That's called sedition which is heavily punishable in any modern state :KEK:

with so much conviction without a shred of doubt makes me think people like you are the perfect propaganda targets.
I don't like lenient enforcement of the law, so a country that takes recidivism risk seriously will always have my support. We are seeing the consequences of lax enforcement in countries like the US currently. The real propaganda is supporting the rights of criminals over upstanding citizens.
 
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its funny when there's largest giantess population there and all of them are cruel (vore,crush) that there is still regular size population. one would expect that resources will run out very quickly based on giantess population's "hobbies" .
NEVERMIND ignore my other post, the resources were tinies (obviously! That was me being an airhead for no reason) I think there could be two explanations as to why they never run out of resources:
1. Neutral territories are much bigger than we've been led to believe, and therefore there's always surplus of tinies that giantesses can just capture on their morning walk and sell back in Homas (like Kendra does with us). And because the neutral towns are so many that a lot of them have still not been drained of tinies just yet.

2. Or the size of neutral territories is not that big, just the birth rate is crazy high ( which seems even less plausible)

The third option could be that the devs couldn't be arsed with thinking through the logistics of supply and demand in this world
 

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guilty as charged, your honor. But I'm new here in my defense (kinda)
Know what, go off Johnjacky the Elder. Not quite sure what the Rome in this analogy is, but Homaspernia delenda est

On a more serious note, I don't think that Homaspernia should be completely destroyed, but it definitely needs reform. It seems the problem with it is more that it's ruled and shaped by a corrupt, self-serving, sadistic, hedonistic, violent,and varying degrees of messed up in the head ruling class, who in turn crafted a society and laws that served to benefit that. Because, yeah, it's a sort of free for all, but if you do break the laws, and if you do it in relation to someone of great importance, you're fucked. They'll kill you or enslave you. That group of bandits that got the death penalty because that Countess' had her servant's (or pet really) death faked to get them murder charges. All because she was a little miffed that her favorite one got a little scar.

( Yet said Countess is also completely fine with having her favorite servant/pet have his entire bone structure, appearance and memories changed permanently just to have those bandits killed instead of just having them go to prison or become slaves. And I'm going to guess that jury trials or criminal trials beyond "yeah you did it, next." probably don't exist to dispute or actually prove charges here).

I'd say that the giantess would be exempt from these laws, but even then it seems more that the laws benefit them until they don't. It's stated, when Kendra, Nyxmay, and Vai'Klis are having their definitely platonic homoerotic sexy bath fun time with the MC that they'd done something similar with a high ranking demon and nearly killed the guy. It's implied that they would've gotten into a massive amount of trouble if they actually did, and got lucky that they were able to heal the guy and him seemingly enjoying the experience enough to not say anything.

Anyways, we also meet plenty of basically normal(As in not any of the above listed things on the near regular, I probably could've explained ) people Homaspernia. That demon who had his wife and daughter killed seems to have just been a guy other than having his family destroyed and getting to take part in the "Choose How Those Who Wronged You Are Executed" ceremony, the Giantess Succubus( I can't remember her name, or the demon dad's name right now) that also took part in that seems fairly normal. Most of Vai'Klis' customers are also fairly normal, they just come in to get help with what are basically health and hygiene problems. The only one that I can really think of being an exception is that one ghost trying to find a man, who even then gets a talking down to by Vai'Klis. Hell, other than what her friends do on the regular, Vai'Klis is fairly normal too( And Kendra and Nyxmay also are pretty normal around her too, and they don't seem to mind either). Honestly it seems more the problem for these normal people is that they are trapped there, forced to be there, or forced to embrace or participate in Homaspernia's way of life, with all it's corrupt, sadistic glory. The undead exist in plentiful quantities there not only because of the dark magic and people who make undead, but also because until recently it was the only place where they wouldn't be killed by a whole ass army dedicated to killing them. And despite how few actual supports exist for the undead in Homaspernia, it's still one of the few places were they won't completely waste away in like a few months. And vampires and presumbly other races are heading there in droves from the other kingdoms because they can't make a living anywhere else.

Anyways, this was to much to say that to me at least, the problem with Homaspernia comes from its society, ruling class, and the culture that perpetuates it all. Lots of reform needs to take place to fix it, but lets not go completely towards mass destruction here. Probably could've worded everything here better, but I decided to type this damn essay off the cuff, so who knows. Also I don't know what to do with the magic corruption of the land and everything in it, I'm not sure how to deal with Homaspernia also being that world's largest superfund site.

On a completely unrelated note, you ever wonder about Vai'Klis and her whole deal. Like, she genuinely one of the more kind and gentle giantesses in the game, she refuses to sell deadly potions and poisons too, and will sometimes just give potions to her clients if they need them. And if you play your cards right as the MC, her route is one of the sweeter ones in my opinion. Even how her death is relayed to us, she had powerful soldiers sent to kill her for the crime of getting too close to Kendra. And her remaining memories come back to her as nightmares, it's all just tragic, and she goes on nonetheless.

But still, I don't know, feel like there's going to be more revealed about her and her life before she died, and the reason she was killed. Because she knows still seems to know about all those deadly potions and things of that sort, even if she doesn't make them, or make them anymore. And she barely remembers anything about her life before, and well her friends support her in a lot of things, they don't do a lot to help her in piecing back together what she has left of her memories. They really seem more focused in keeping her grounded in the present, and keeping her grounded as herself, which I get with the condition she has, but still find it curious that they aren't really doing all that much to help on the memory front, other than like being sleep aids and helping her stay herself instead a discordant ghost. Also the story about her death is told to us by Kendra who we know both despises her mother and doesn't completely accept that Vai is dead, and Maryen only confirms that their mother sent the soldiers, but not much else about the story.

IDK, I'm probably reading to much into this, and honestly Vai'Klis is one of my favorite characters and routes in this game, but like I feel we're eventually going to be revealed that she also got up to some real heinous or dangerous shit in the past (Like arguably a majority of the Homaspernian giantess population), but there was something about what she did, along with her being so close to Kendra that lead to soldiers being sent to put her down. I just feel it being Mother Dearest not liking Kendra's friends and choosing the most nuclear option possible seems too convenient. Alternatively, I could be reading to much into it to the point of typing a couple paragraphs about it instead of doing something actually productive. IDK, I just want her updated soon. Anyways, I typed to much, sorry everyone.
 
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