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Sveta disappears for a while with this entry point too. New entry points (in addition to the already existing one) would make it fit more with that dude's backstory. And as with the already existing one, they don't need to be "forced", the player would have the option to avoid. Also all could be made to only be active in June-July before school year starts and after school year ends.

As you can see, players actively go for this type of content. More entry points + different reasons for the abduction, would allow players to find it easier.
Furthermore, I still think a new Painslut trait that could be achieved here would fit the event nicely.
YEah but you still disappear for awhile, you mom should go nuts about that. Friends should ask questions etc. Restricting it to summer makes it better but only if the player doesn't have a job, then it is still a problem.
 

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I do agree with you, but I think doing that would add way too much work for the devs who aren't specifically crafting every single event around lesdom succubus players. That kinda stuff would be better served in a full conversion mod, kinda like the Kolka mod that I think is defunct now. Issue with that is the end of the last sentence, it's just too much work to maintain that kinda mod for a game this expansive over the long term.
As for why she would, because she wants to. Plenty of succubae put themselves into intentionally degrading positions either because they enjoy it or because that's the most efficient way to feed. I'm with you as far in that I'm not interested in playing a sub succubus but I suspect a lot of this game's players feel otherwise.
The last time the conversation came up, majority was more interested in sub content. There is plenty that wanted dom options as well, but based on what people ask for etc. I would say the split is somewhere around 60/40 in favor of sub content.
 

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Not really, all it needs is the option to kick balls or slap to end such events and go on with the game, just like the groping events, it would be copy'n'paste. Okay, some fight would also be nice to enhance your personal killcounter...honestly, i've ran into a lack of rapists and robbers, the parks seem almost save since i patrol them every night (even with a full tank its often impossible to sleep without dickdreams or auto-hunting, so i dont sleep anymore and either excercise or hunt scum down during nights)

I prefer to play neutral, buf if i need to choose i lean towards dom. My energytank is always full. I mean, i have lariska, julia, katja and sis on a daily base, with natashas dept route i also feed on her 4+ times each day (breaks, homework, shopping and on demand) + 2 slaves, kat and tanya in the city + the strippers and hookups...then a few girls not on daily base like dates and random events and then the weekends with party, nightclub, and so on...honestly, a hungry succubus seems impossible in this game, especially since most players do dicks as well and you really dont need to put any effort in getting dicked here, the work is to prevent getting dicked and losing control by becoming a pathetic sub or a disgusting free for all slut ^^
Just keep in mind most of the people working on the game don't know the magic side of the game. So the couple of people working on magic have to add options to include magic/succubus versions to a lot of stuff. So most of the events are written with a typical teenage girl in mind.

With that said, magic stuff is slowly added as in more options to fight etc, but it takes time.
 

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In the first screen after the abduction some other dude says something along the lines:
>girl, I don't know what you did to piss him off, but you're screwed, now you'll be a slave girl (or something)
>"noooo, you can't do this to mee, it's illegal"
>who do you think are the clients for this shit? sleazy politicians, cops, lawyers and so on

The disrespectful slut entry is fine. A known whore too (but with some appearance trigger). Still IMO, just a cute girl should qualify (being in the wrong place and not getting away when danger approaches - like that passageway in Pushkin or drunk at peeing wall behind the disco or some strange hookup in the park or something) , a pretty model (with someone working at the agency setting sveta up for kidnap - like arranging a photoshoot in some fishy place and sveta still opting to go with it despite the red flags) and so on.

My point is this guy's business is in providing slave girls and slave girl services for the wealthy and powerful, so the main reason for kidnapping should be Sveta's appearance, not her prostitution or slut level.
Part of the problem is we tend not to have many forced storylines, which is why you have to kinda go out of your way to get abducted, not all players want to play that kind of story.
 

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Recent update messed up the menstruation cycle hard, sveta got early morning sickness for no reason( virgin). Her period was late for 60 days, then suddenly started. While being creampied despite having continuous pill protection for 100 days she think she'd get pregnant by having unprotected sex.
You can get sick from hangovers now and I believe just being sick.
 

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As for the comments about Katja and no I don't work on her. But I do know her story well enough. Katja is actually a nice girl that is bisexual. If she because a slut and she can, that is because you the player encouraged that in her. She is a bit weak willed and somewhat easy to influence. Sorta the same thing that happened to Sonia but it is you the player that can turn her into a slut. If you choose not to, she stays a bisexual girl but is loyal in a exclusive lesbian relationship. If you break up with her, likely she will end up in a new exclusive relationship with a boy next. I believe that is one of the plans is to see what she does after you breakup with her if you choose to keep her pure.

So basically she has two paths and you the player can decided how she turns out.
 

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Why is she? Cause likes dance and daddy wouldn't let her have shiny thingies any other way?
Sveta isn't an unwilling participant either as the player has the option to quit.

Or you can have Sveta get him reelected with her "dancing" abilities.

She whores her girls and herself, but is furious at some cheerleader for sleeping around. Also slut rep can't into Starlets. Also watches anal porn, but reees at Sveta for doing porn, "muh, meine trauma". She's always stuck-up like she's superior and such, but is a total buttslut that fucks in cheerleaders' ocker.
1. Pay attention and you’d see that she tells you that the Starlets prostitution ring started out as her father whoring her out to his “friends” as an incentive for them to back his election campaign, but he got greedy and is now forcing Albina to whore her friends out under threat of punishment. (He doesn’t give a shit about her and would ship her off to human traffickers without a second thought)

2. Her father going down is a core part of her storyline that won’t change.

3. Strawman arguments.
- You’re taking this out of context. Her sleeping around is irrelevant; she gets pissed at the cheerleader for constantly skipping out on practice and game days. (This is supposed to serve as a warning to players who consider doing this themselves)
- Sveta doing porn isn’t the point. She’s concerned about you being exploited or abused given your history with the Starlets. (There will eventually be an option for her to talk about it if you haven’t done that questline, where it will be more of a “I could never do that” sort of conversation)
 

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You enable her brain by cutting half her brain. Doctors without borders.
No matter what path, Sveta just happened to become the target for Katja perversions by being at the wrong place at the wrong time.


She does that because she is a whore unerneath. Just needed a push and the debt was it. And yes, she would be like Bella and such, otherwise she wouldn't be so obsessed to be like popular kids.


Yeah, a stuck-up hypocrite. Wish Sveta had the option to rat her out to her father and become queen of the Starlets while making Albina the lowliest rank, being subservient to all other girls in addition to the clients.
You enable her brain by preventing her becoming a cumslut. Its always the same, either a girl can think or she cant think about anything but dicks, that never goes together. If sonja had this option she would never fall and still get enough fun with the girls ^^

I really hope you dont work with people because you dont understand the difference between honor and pride. She couldnt pay back so she swallowed her pride and did whatever you demanded to pay you back. After the dept is gone she always goes back to her natural self and dont continutes what you think is her personality. The person you describe here is mira, after one push the townslut, another push the townwhore, never stopping and utterly enjoing it. Natasha on the other hand would go through hell to keep her word and repay the dept, but the second the dept is paid off she is the same girl as before. She might have a sub fetish because she enjoys serving you, or, just like in the romance part she just likes you. However, she never did anything like that for anyone else and she owed many people lots of money.
Maybe try reading the text instead of just watching the pictures. She is into fashion and makeup, so no matter if she is poor or rich, she still would hang around the cool kids...you dont hang around nerds, gopnics or jocks if you want to see and hear about fashion and makeup...except for cosplay, sporty, goth and punk style.

Why would you rat her out to the one who earns the money for his election campain by whoring out the scarlets in the first place? You really need to focus more on the text. However, i had to deal with many girls who were broken into whores, sluts or slaves -thats my line of work in our shelter- but its unforgivable to send others into this hell. If she was just a common whore i would still be disgusted but understanding, but she whored out others, which makes her a pimp and such creatures deserve nothing but a long painful death.
Dont get me wrong, i'm not against brothels or prostitution in general, but only if the whores decide this "job" for themselves without getting manipulated or forced into it...albina is manipulating the girls into it and a lack of willpower will make you a whore.

The last time the conversation came up, majority was more interested in sub content. There is plenty that wanted dom options as well, but based on what people ask for etc. I would say the split is somewhere around 60/40 in favor of sub content.
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Just keep in mind most of the people working on the game don't know the magic side of the game. So the couple of people working on magic have to add options to include magic/succubus versions to a lot of stuff. So most of the events are written with a typical teenage girl in mind.

With that said, magic stuff is slowly added as in more options to fight etc, but it takes time.
They can be into it if they want and i dont demand alternate routes, just an easy way out like in school. You dont want to tease or enjoy it? Slap him and done. Someone tries to force you into anything? Kick in the balls and done. Dan and his gang try to get you to blow them? Fight and done. All these fast exit scenes are already in the game with script, pictures and stats. It would really be just copy'n'paste the slap/kick/fight option. The only possible thing that might need a small adjustment is the endlocation so you dont land in the school after slapping someone in the city.
Its more about a choice in general, so not only for sub stuff. But most of the other stuff already has the option to say no. I get it, some people like to get forced into stuff and for some sub stuff works best without a way to prevent it, but most people prefer to choose if they want something or not.
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Ignoring the magic and special abilities the only difference between normal and succubus is doubled skills (200 instead of 100), so even a weak succubus is still stronger, faster and has more health and endurance than any human. While a full succubus implemention in every quest may really be a pain in the ass to implement, how about making it simple? Dunno if you have the stats of each chara already defined or if the descriptions are just for show. But if the npc already have their base skills defined you just need a variablechecker to see if the MC is better or not. If not you could add a skillcheck (like the willpower check but looking for strength).
 
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They can be into it if they want and i dont demand alternate routes, just an easy way out like in school. You dont want to tease or enjoy it? Slap him and done. Someone tries to force you into anything? Kick in the balls and done. Dan and his gang try to get you to blow them? Fight and done. All these fast exit scenes are already in the game with script, pictures and stats. It would really be just copy'n'paste the slap/kick/fight option. The only possible thing that might need a small adjustment is the endlocation so you dont land in the school after slapping someone in the city.
Its more about a choice in general, so not only for sub stuff. But most of the other stuff already has the option to say no. I get it, some people like to get forced into stuff and for some sub stuff works best without a way to prevent it, but most people prefer to choose if they want something or not.
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Ignoring the magic and special abilities the only difference between normal and succubus is doubled skills (200 instead of 100), so even a weak succubus is still stronger, faster and has more health and endurance than any human. While a full succubus implemention in every quest may really be a pain in the ass to implement, how about making it simple? Dunno if you have the stats of each chara already defined or if the descriptions are just for show. But if the npc already have their base skills defined you just need a variablechecker to see if the MC is better or not. If not you could add a skillcheck (like the willpower check but looking for strength).
It is a bit more involved than that. It still takes time to write the different text and reactions for the different locations. Like Dan would likely react differently outside of school than in it when being slapped for example. So it is not just a copy and paste.

Also we have to find it, keep in mind pretty much all the old original ETO stuff had no ways out of things, it was just forced. We have been adding them as we go, but it takes time to add them and just as important find them.

No they get their stats added as needed. They all have a few stats set, hotcat, intelligence etc but not all stats. No one skill checker would work, as skill matters a lot etc. Some would react more violent than others. We are slowly adding this stuff but it is no where near as easy as you think it is.
 

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YEah but you still disappear for awhile, you mom should go nuts about that. Friends should ask questions etc.
That's how it is. Even if you don't talk with family/friends for weeks, there's no reactions, apart from mom.
I guess they can be added for family at least. And in this instance Sveta would follow the script and say she ran.
If the police and politicians are clients, there's nothing she or her family can do anyway, no matter what she tells them (including the truth).

Restricting it to summer makes it better but only if the player doesn't have a job, then it is still a problem.
hmm, have re-hiring scenes for every job.
"Can I have my old job, back please?"
"No, screw you, learn to give a notice"
"Leave"/"Please sir, I had big life and death problems, I'll succ your dicc."

Part of the problem is we tend not to have many forced storylines, which is why you have to kinda go out of your way to get abducted, not all players want to play that kind of story.
They'd have to go out of their way for those entries too. Options to run, to not go where they're lead by others and this sort of stuff. No one would force the player to choose some obviously bad options.

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1. Pay attention and you’d see that she tells you that the Starlets prostitution ring started out as her father whoring her out to his “friends” as an incentive for them to back his election campaign, but he got greedy and is now forcing Albina to whore her friends out under threat of punishment. (He doesn’t give a shit about her and would ship her off to human traffickers without a second thought)

2. Her father going down is a core part of her storyline that won’t change.

3. Strawman arguments.
- You’re taking this out of context. Her sleeping around is irrelevant; she gets pissed at the cheerleader for constantly skipping out on practice and game days. (This is supposed to serve as a warning to players who consider doing this themselves)
- Sveta doing porn isn’t the point. She’s concerned about you being exploited or abused given your history with the Starlets. (There will eventually be an option for her to talk about it if you haven’t done that questline, where it will be more of a “I could never do that” sort of conversation)
1. Fine, she is a victim. She should behave like one at school and not be a stuck-up bitch.
2. Fine
3. The player is a willing participant for the Starlets. I assume that so are the other girls who didn't quit.
Isn't she also concerned about the poor girls doing the porn she so much enjoys? Maybe they're exploited....
 

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WELLLLLLL IT WORKED
Initially it didn't. But because I uninstalled the game yesterday. I had to reinstall it. And when I unzipped the file, I noticed a notification which said something like "write error in file". I am using winrar instead of 7zip so maybe th
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WELL IT WORKED. Upon using the infinity player I noticed the option for the test video which failed. I followed the file location for it and noticed a bunch of folders were completely empty. I wasn't sure why so I tried extracing it again and I noticed "write error in file" upon googling that maybe it's because I use winrar instead of 7zip. Anyways I was thinking maybe its due to storage reasons since my laptop is lacking in storage space so I cleared out some stuff and tried extracting the images again. And then it worked! So hurrayyy. Thanks for the help! Much appreciated mate
 
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hmm, have re-hiring scenes for every job.
"Can I have my old job, back please?"
"No, screw you, learn to give a notice"
"Leave"/"Please sir, I had big life and death problems, I'll succ your dicc."
The new employment system allows for this, it will track career progression, employment status (left/dismissedfired) and if you are re-hired. It's going to take a lot of work to bring all the appropriate jobs across, and rebalance them with a moderately standardised pay scale. That's even before you consider actually finding writers to do the content in the first place.
 

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You enable her brain by preventing her becoming a cumslut. Its always the same, either a girl can think or she cant think about anything but dicks, that never goes together. If sonja had this option she would never fall and still get enough fun with the girls ^^

I really hope you dont work with people because you dont understand the difference between honor and pride. She couldnt pay back so she swallowed her pride and did whatever you demanded to pay you back. After the dept is gone she always goes back to her natural self and dont continutes what you think is her personality. The person you describe here is mira, after one push the townslut, another push the townwhore, never stopping and utterly enjoing it. Natasha on the other hand would go through hell to keep her word and repay the dept, but the second the dept is paid off she is the same girl as before. She might have a sub fetish because she enjoys serving you, or, just like in the romance part she just likes you. However, she never did anything like that for anyone else and she owed many people lots of money.
Maybe try reading the text instead of just watching the pictures. She is into fashion and makeup, so no matter if she is poor or rich, she still would hang around the cool kids...you dont hang around nerds, gopnics or jocks if you want to see and hear about fashion and makeup...except for cosplay, sporty, goth and punk style.

Why would you rat her out to the one who earns the money for his election campain by whoring out the scarlets in the first place? You really need to focus more on the text. However, i had to deal with many girls who were broken into whores, sluts or slaves -thats my line of work in our shelter- but its unforgivable to send others into this hell. If she was just a common whore i would still be disgusted but understanding, but she whored out others, which makes her a pimp and such creatures deserve nothing but a long painful death.
Dont get me wrong, i'm not against brothels or prostitution in general, but only if the whores decide this "job" for themselves without getting manipulated or forced into it...albina is manipulating the girls into it and a lack of willpower will make you a whore.
And now Sonia has fun with both girls and boys. Another reason why Sonia > your lobotomized Katja.

Natasha still does some things even after she repays the debt through sex. But btw, out of the money you give her, you never see a cent back. A single russian cent.
She could be into fashion and makeup and still be more like Julia. She isn't.

Well, we hate Albina for different reasons. I mostly hate her personality, attitude. Same for Bella, Stasya, Lizaveta etc.
 

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That's how it is. Even if you don't talk with family/friends for weeks, there's no reactions, apart from mom.
I guess they can be added for family at least. And in this instance Sveta would follow the script and say she ran.
If the police and politicians are clients, there's nothing she or her family can do anyway, no matter what she tells them (including the truth).


hmm, have re-hiring scenes for every job.
"Can I have my old job, back please?"
"No, screw you, learn to give a notice"
"Leave"/"Please sir, I had big life and death problems, I'll succ your dicc."


They'd have to go out of their way for those entries too. Options to run, to not go where they're lead by others and this sort of stuff. No one would force the player to choose some obviously bad options.

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Yeah been means we have to write all that, add in code for triggers etc. Not saying we can't just it is a lot of work, for a nich storyline that isn't very popular to begin with.

Some day we will add stuff like that, just not much of a priority and why I question if it fits right now. I think it might work better as something in the city honestly. Where there would be less issues if she is already moved out of the pav apartment with her family and out of pav school.
 
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WELLLLLLL IT WORKED
Initially it didn't. But because I uninstalled the game yesterday. I had to reinstall it. And when I unzipped the file, I noticed a notification which said something like "write error in file". I am using winrar instead of 7zip so maybe th

WELL IT WORKED. Upon using the infinity player I noticed the option for the test video which failed. I followed the file location for it and noticed a bunch of folders were completely empty. I wasn't sure why so I tried extracing it again and I noticed "write error in file" upon googling that maybe it's because I use winrar instead of 7zip. Anyways I was thinking maybe its due to storage reasons since my laptop is lacking in storage space so I cleared out some stuff and tried extracting the images again. And then it worked! So hurrayyy. Thanks for the help! Much appreciated mate
winrar should work, but yes it is zipped using 7zip so always best to use the same program, less chance of issues. Sounds like that was the actual issue. Glad you got it working, you might be able to use sonnix 1.9 now which is the recommended player.
 

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And now Sonia has fun with both girls and boys. Another reason why Sonia > your lobotomized Katja.

Natasha still does some things even after she repays the debt through sex. But btw, out of the money you give her, you never see a cent back. A single russian cent.
She could be into fashion and makeup and still be more like Julia. She isn't.

Well, we hate Albina for different reasons. I mostly hate her personality, attitude. Same for Bella, Stasya, Lizaveta etc.
That's cause Sonia is a sweetheart.

Natasha has issues. She will be going to the Uni for Fashion design.
Bella, Irina, Stasya, and Lizaveta are the "mean girls" of the school. They are a social clique inside of a social clique, the popular girls within the cool kids. Long term I wanted for there to be a way for Sveta to become one of the mean girls and be accepted by them, but that is long long long time off before we even think about it.

The other two social cliques inside of social groups is Vitek, Dan, Vasily, and Pauline inside the gopniks, and the DnD nerds inside the nerd social group.

Though no one seems to have noticed that, which means they all need a little more work.
 

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Yeah been means we have to write all that, add in code for triggers etc. Not saying we can't just it is a lot of work, for a nich storyline that isn't very popular to begin with.
You know why I started to speak about part of it again in the first place? I admit it is on my mind for a long time and the whole event as a highlight of the game, but the real reason was that just in few pages 3 different users (or so) in fairly quick succession brought it up. I'd say that counts for something.
Not to mention everyone that doesn't know of it and asks here for moar hardcore/bdsm.

But that's what I'm saying, you just don't add reactions until you feel like it. As it is now, it doesn't have them anyway.

Just another entry point for the time being. Everytime I play a new release, I go through that event. Sometimes I play Sveta as a slut, sometimes as a prude virgin to be rekt. And everytime I play her as a virgin (or otherwise supposed to be a upstanding gal) it ruins immersion.

(I'll do it myself either way, if I don't burn out playing the game)

Bella, Irina, Stasya, and Lizaveta are the "mean girls" of the school. They are a social clique inside of a social clique, the popular girls within the cool kids. Long term I wanted for there to be a way for Sveta to become one of the mean girls and be accepted by them, but that is long long long time off before we even think about it.
Sveta vs Lizaveta engaging into a gossip war.

The other two social cliques inside of social groups is Vitek, Dan, Vasily, and Pauline inside the gopniks, and the DnD nerds inside the nerd social group.
BTW, the gopnik group that includes Paulina at the park shouldn't screw and humiliate Sveta even after her slut rep skyrockets?
IMO the gopnik (at least the males +paulina + lena and lera) should be doing things to Sveta 10x more, just as they do with Sonia.
 

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Thanks and exactly what I was talking about -- I'd say a succubus Sveta should be able to enjoy at least this type of hardcore plays cuz if she's already that powerful, sex slavery for her is nothing left but an interesting fetish game. Hunting random ppl at nights as meal is a good idea but absolutely has so much more potential, such as, "hunting" a gang of ppl?
As nutluck says, magic stuff hasn't been given enough consideration and there's many places where Succubus-Sveta should have different options. The issue for us is no one wants to work on that content and add these options ahead of the things they are working on. Wil keep trying to get more interest in it.
And why should a powerful succubus be willing to let anyone else take control? She could just collect gopniks and rapists in a basement and fuck them to dead whenever she wants a snack or burn down the whole building whenever some cop shows up.
From my point of view its more the lack of possible resistance against losers like dan that reduces the realism. Run away or suck them off? Annihilate them without leaving any trace besides a pile of ash! I mean, you can beat up everyone without the need of magic, but with your magic you are almost unstopable by humans and yet there are tons of sub content without a choice. Sure, if you are into it you can go with it, but if not you should be able to stand your ground any time.
As above, its just a lack of person power in the team to add these options.
Haha, alright! Thanks for testing it. At least the last one is the same as what you got. I did find the issue to that but I'm not sure what's the best way to solve it. The event tries to carry arguments over from several actions and in the process the QSP seems to dump them as 'already used'. It works if I write them to another variable, but I'm not yet sure where would be the best place to kill that variable after use so that it doesn't hang around taking space long after the event has concluded.
It might help if you have every exit leading to the same location to funnel them all through a single $ARGS called 'end' or 'finish' and kill the variable/s there.
And now Sonia has fun with both girls and boys. Another reason why Sonia > your lobotomized Katja.

Natasha still does some things even after she repays the debt through sex. But btw, out of the money you give her, you never see a cent back. A single russian cent.
She could be into fashion and makeup and still be more like Julia. She isn't.

Well, we hate Albina for different reasons. I mostly hate her personality, attitude. Same for Bella, Stasya, Lizaveta etc.
These aren't real people and sometimes their personalities have been written by half a dozen different people over the years so they don't always act as you might expect. Veng and nutluck are doing a lot to make things more consistant and to add more variety but it takes time.
The thing that makes GL such a passion project for us all is that there are characters in there for us all but that means there will be those that we don't like. Wanting to kill them and arguing why you should might be a bit much, maybe just tie them up and whip them a bit? :)
 

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It might help if you have every exit leading to the same location to funnel them all through a single $ARGS called 'end' or 'finish' and kill the variable/s there.
Yeah that seems like most sensible way to do it. I had it killed in the 3 possible scenes that followed in my solution that I put on my repo, but it seems it was already pushed to the main with similar solution. Although the solution now does not kill the variables, they seem to be temporary variables that are used elsewhere also. In any case the original issue gets solved.
 

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There is an event with alyona, anushka, lera and lena in the park...drink with them and you end up eating 4 pussys, so even for me there is a gopnic slut ride...however, it doesnt hit my reputation at all...only the dicks bring you down, just like in real life ^^
 
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