I don't think most people have a problem with the threesome scene with brian and it would have been perfectly fine if it was exclusively on the ntr path and not mixed in with the harem stuff. You could of had a choice before the hotel to tell Brian to fuck off and cut him off for good. Then maybe going home and having some fun between mom and daughter, then skip to the next morning at work with brian in a terrible mood. That would make a lot more sense on the harem path.Part of the problem with this is that some people seemed to have gotten their wish. The threesome scene with Brian was skipped partly because some people don't like him, the dev said so himself. It gets skipped even if you pick the choices for it and chances for it to not happen, essentially punishing everyone from what should have been a hot scene.
Personally I think they need to go back to the drawing board and decide in what direction they want their game to go in and stay true to it. People will either like it or not, you can't please everyone.
This. Your statement perfectly encapsulates what should of happened, and some of my thoughts on how it could of played out and things being blocked like incest.I don't think most people have a problem with the threesome scene with brian and it would have been perfectly fine if it was exclusively on the ntr path and not mixed in with the harem stuff. You could of had a choice before the hotel to tell Brian to fuck off and cut him off for good. Then maybe going home and having some fun between mom and daughter, then skip to the next morning at work with brian in a terrible mood. That would make a lot more sense on the harem path.
What we have right now is just the ntr path but you don't make ntr choices and the game sort of skips along to the next choice and they still stay the night in the hotel, and the mom still has sex with brian for some reason and then decides its over out of the blue the next morning. Its just a really awkward set of scenes that just don't make sense or fit together if your on the harem path. I also have no idea why incest is tied to it either. Just seems like it needs some tweaking.
funny when I first started playing this had no idea Harem was even gonna be in this game. But yeah that is probably one of the biggest mistakes when it comes to people that only care about the harem content or want to avoid NTR. While I personally don't really consider the Brian and Katrin stuff NTR just yet do to here not wanting to commit to the MC prior to the hotel. I can see why some doThis. Your statement perfectly encapsulates what should of happened, and some of my thoughts on how it could of played out and things being blocked like incest.
But instead we are stuck with whatever they gave us, Cause I doubt they would rework and add this, even though they should and it would solve a lot of problems for a decent amount of people imo.
I think the biggest issue is that both FMC and Katrin were already involved with Brian before this Date. MC hates Brian because he's a piece of shit and a bad boss but yet no matter what route you are on the date still happens. But hey I guess I am an asshole when the dev straight up adds a Harem route and that doesn't happen at all.funny when I first started playing this had no idea Harem was even gonna be in this game. But yeah that is probably one of the biggest mistakes when it comes to people that only care about the harem content or want to avoid NTR. While I personally don't really consider the Brian and Katrin stuff NTR just yet do to here not wanting to commit to the MC prior to the hotel. I can see why some do
I fully agree it's kind of a weird way for her path to play out the way it does , if you wanted to avoid certain content. To me it feels like Katrin's path is going for Story first and choice last while alot of players want choice first , so it makes her path feel off or bad depending on the player you ask. Like I don't have issue with it base on my preferences but I 100% see why so many would.
one my fav games,u are one of rare Dev to give the freedom with option not forced thing.Thank you from the bottom of my heart, my friend, for your interest. It’s always a joy to respond to someone like you who appreciates our work.
Luana and I envisioned this project with the goal of creating increasingly intense emotions, allowing the player to decide whether to take all the women from Brian or remain a passive observer. But the truth is, crafting coherent and meaningful dialogues for such a branching path is an enormous challenge—almost like a feat of its own.
We chose to introduce Brian as a cold and ruthless character, leaving Katrin free in her choices. This wasn’t by chance: we wanted her role as a "bridge" to help us develop the two main paths, NTR and Harem. This way, players would have the opportunity to truly separate the two experiences, creating moments that are deeply significant.
I understand that some might have found these choices hard to accept. Perhaps we could have done things differently, but Luana and I have always believed that the best way to approach this was to let each emotion build gradually, without forcing anything. That’s why this episode is deliberately softer—a sort of pause before the storm.
It’s inevitable to ask certain questions. What will happen when MC talks to Katrin about his relationship with FMC? It’s at that point that the paths of NTR and Harem will truly diverge. It’s there that Katrin and FMC, together, will define a point of no return.
I know we’ve introduced many characters: Zaira, Emily, James, Edward, Mark, and others. We’re aware that this means choosing which events to highlight in each episode, but we always aim to deliver new emotions. For example, what will happen when Zaira discovers that MC had a relationship with her mother? Or when FMC becomes Emily’s slave? Will it take a sentimental turn or become devastating?
And then there are other storylines: what happens when you talk to Edward and find out that the bank manager is James’ uncle? Will you help Edward with useful ideas and grow closer to him, or will you choose to collaborate with James to support Edward?
As you can see, our game is complex—perhaps too much so to be easily defined. Sometimes we wonder if we’re doing the right thing, if all these branches risk confusing players or making the experience drag on too long. But one thing is certain: we’re pouring our hearts into it.
My commitment is absolute, and I owe it to Luana, who cares deeply about this project. If we make mistakes, we’ll accept them—after all, it’s just a game. But what truly makes us happy is the chance to find friends like you along the way.
Welcome aboard, my friend.
With affection,
Stefano
Thank youone my fav games,u are one of rare Dev to give the freedom with option not forced thing.
Let's just say/admit your outcome of NTR/harem mixed at the beginning is not implemented as well as you think it is. You want a certain character to become a 'bridge' between NTR and harem path? It is not working. I may not know well about NTR path but it seems like the way of this path not clear enough. It is almost impossible handling two totally different path together and it will just burn down either or both sides of the 'bridge'.Thank you from the bottom of my heart, my friend, for your interest. It’s always a joy to respond to someone like you who appreciates our work.
Luana and I envisioned this project with the goal of creating increasingly intense emotions, allowing the player to decide whether to take all the women from Brian or remain a passive observer. But the truth is, crafting coherent and meaningful dialogues for such a branching path is an enormous challenge—almost like a feat of its own.
We chose to introduce Brian as a cold and ruthless character, leaving Katrin free in her choices. This wasn’t by chance: we wanted her role as a "bridge" to help us develop the two main paths, NTR and Harem. This way, players would have the opportunity to truly separate the two experiences, creating moments that are deeply significant.
I understand that some might have found these choices hard to accept. Perhaps we could have done things differently, but Luana and I have always believed that the best way to approach this was to let each emotion build gradually, without forcing anything. That’s why this episode is deliberately softer—a sort of pause before the storm.
It’s inevitable to ask certain questions. What will happen when MC talks to Katrin about his relationship with FMC? It’s at that point that the paths of NTR and Harem will truly diverge. It’s there that Katrin and FMC, together, will define a point of no return.
I know we’ve introduced many characters: Zaira, Emily, James, Edward, Mark, and others. We’re aware that this means choosing which events to highlight in each episode, but we always aim to deliver new emotions. For example, what will happen when Zaira discovers that MC had a relationship with her mother? Or when FMC becomes Emily’s slave? Will it take a sentimental turn or become devastating?
And then there are other storylines: what happens when you talk to Edward and find out that the bank manager is James’ uncle? Will you help Edward with useful ideas and grow closer to him, or will you choose to collaborate with James to support Edward?
As you can see, our game is complex—perhaps too much so to be easily defined. Sometimes we wonder if we’re doing the right thing, if all these branches risk confusing players or making the experience drag on too long. But one thing is certain: we’re pouring our hearts into it.
My commitment is absolute, and I owe it to Luana, who cares deeply about this project. If we make mistakes, we’ll accept them—after all, it’s just a game. But what truly makes us happy is the chance to find friends like you along the way.
Welcome aboard, my friend.
With affection,
Stefano
I've hit this a couple of times and have no clue. This dead end makes one wonder where I went wrong with prior choices & is frustrating, to say the least.What's this BS about "not having gained the experience" for Katrin harem? How the heck do we gain exp for that path? I've been pursuing Katrin since start of game
Agree! So annoying, I made all my choices in favor of Katrin path, but still get this ridiculous message. There are so many incomplete paths in this game and instead of focusing on them, the plot continues on other paths. I deleted the game, too many holes like swiss cheeseI've hit this a couple of times and have no clue. This dead end makes one wonder where I went wrong with prior choices & is frustrating, to say the least.
haha now you make me wonder if there is hidden requirement for that path as I didn't have issue with it. But the James paths for example had a hidden requirement to have exp to see all of his content despite picking all of his optionsAgree! So annoying, I made all my choices in favor of Katrin path, but still get this ridiculous message. There are so many incomplete paths in this game and instead of focusing on them, the plot continues on other paths. I deleted the game, too many holes like swiss cheese
i choosed the harem paths form the begining and never choosed the NTR option.At start i got msg "no experience",but the 2 last option i was to choose Katrin harem +.Wich i find strange. A least she said i will not see brian againhaha now you make me wonder if there is hidden requirement for that path as I didn't have issue with it. But the James paths for example had a hidden requirement to have exp to see all of his content despite picking all of his options
i was getting "no experience" for zaira and after an update everything was fixedAgree! So annoying, I made all my choices in favor of Katrin path, but still get this ridiculous message. There are so many incomplete paths in this game and instead of focusing on them, the plot continues on other paths. I deleted the game, too many holes like swiss cheese
I literally came here to ask about this. I was like, am I crazy or did I accidently skip it?What in the flying fuck was that update!? Teases the Mom and Daughter threesome then completely skips it. L Dev
The dev has said that we will see parts of it when the FMC is telling the MC about it, next update. She will no doubt be jerking him off or something while telling him/us all about it.I literally came here to ask about this. I was like, am I crazy or did I accidently skip it?
Definitely, if I went back, I would improve some aspects. However, from one's mistakes one learns and tries to improve.The dev has said that we will see parts of it when the FMC is telling the MC about it, next update. She will no doubt be jerking him off or something while telling him/us all about it.
They feel it will be better experienced that way, many feel (myself included) that this is a stupid decision but it's their game so, ultimately it's up to them how they tell it.