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Nafig

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The game has become a mess in the latest update.
I never chose Mark, I don't know who he is, but he keeps popping up like shit on water, when will he disappear completely?
I always refused Katrin, but before FMC's date with Brian, MC suddenly, like diarrhea, became interested in Katrin, where is the real choice, I don't need Katrin.
During the conversation between MC and FMC before meeting Brian, I chose options without +Brian and without +Katrin. In fact, FMC cheats on MC with Brian. Will MC forgive everything and become a cuckold or will there be a real choice not to forgive?
Why does Mark pop up like shit again in the pool scene with Michael, he was never in my playthrough?
It seems that elections are not working and that all history is moving in only one direction.
 

bassem88f

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The game has become a mess in the latest update.
I never chose Mark, I don't know who he is, but he keeps popping up like shit on water, when will he disappear completely?
I always refused Katrin, but before FMC's date with Brian, MC suddenly, like diarrhea, became interested in Katrin, where is the real choice, I don't need Katrin.
During the conversation between MC and FMC before meeting Brian, I chose options without +Brian and without +Katrin. In fact, FMC cheats on MC with Brian. Will MC forgive everything and become a cuckold or will there be a real choice not to forgive?
Why does Mark pop up like shit again in the pool scene with Michael, he was never in my playthrough?
It seems that elections are not working and that all history is moving in only one direction.
i have no problem with my game
 

luxury1970

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The game has become a mess in the latest update.
I never chose Mark, I don't know who he is, but he keeps popping up like shit on water, when will he disappear completely?
I always refused Katrin, but before FMC's date with Brian, MC suddenly, like diarrhea, became interested in Katrin, where is the real choice, I don't need Katrin.
During the conversation between MC and FMC before meeting Brian, I chose options without +Brian and without +Katrin. In fact, FMC cheats on MC with Brian. Will MC forgive everything and become a cuckold or will there be a real choice not to forgive?
Why does Mark pop up like shit again in the pool scene with Michael, he was never in my playthrough?
It seems that elections are not working and that all history is moving in only one direction.
I had opened a poll on Discord to ask fans whether MC should forgive FMC or not. The verdict is clear: “Yes” won, so MC will forgive her. Like it or not, it is now decided.
 

bassem88f

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I had opened a poll on Discord to ask fans whether MC should forgive FMC or not. The verdict is clear: “Yes” won, so MC will forgive her. Like it or not, it is now decided.
It is for NTR paths? game don't modification,here is a lot of strictly NTR games complainer can play them
 

bassem88f

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Did you enjoy the pool path? Do you think it connected well with Mark's talk with Michael?
actually tried the harem paths.Why at begin of kathern harem path i got "no experience''. But after meeting with brian/fmc/katrin the husband can chose the harem?
 

Dessolos

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This means that the MC will always be a cuckold and there will be no "harem" route, a cuckold and a harem are not compatible.
Honestly im happy the Poll won for Yes because on discord it was said what not forgiving the FMC entailed. From what I understood to me it felt like the split of the branching would basically make it seem like 2nd game within the game and introduce even more characters when we have to many.

I really liked the idea of it but also I was afraid of dev time being split between a forgiveness path and not. This was the main reason I voted to forgive. If it was just a break up and branching without it feeling like to much would feel like an entirely different game I would of voted no. Cause I do like branching within reason of course.
 
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Honestly im happy the Poll won for Yes because on discord it was said what not forgiving the FMC entailed. From what I understood to me it felt like the split of the branching would basically make it seem like 2nd game within the game and introduce even more characters when we have to many.

I really liked the idea of it but also I was afraid of dev time being split between a forgiveness path and not. This was the main reason I voted to forgive. If it was just a break up and branching without feeling like to much it would feel like an entirely different game I would of voted no. Cause I do like branching within reason of course.
Yes, the poll was misleading as fuck. It basically meant, if you didn't choose to forgive, you'd get a completely different game with different characters (more characters on this already bloated game).

But hey, let's keep doing polls and letting everyone decide the direction of the game instead of having a plot decided that could actually tie everything together. Don't hold your breath.
 
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MagicMan753

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But hey, let's keep doing polls and letting everyone decide the direction of the game instead of having a plot decided that could actually tie everything together. Don't hold your breath.
Also, let's waste time on the secret trysts, that no cares about.

Instead of actually developing an alternative path for harem like declining hotel with Brian or alternate scenes like they used to when you declined something in past scenes(like declined mark, got alternative scenes) let's just put all our effort in this side story, and when you don't select a choice it will just skip content.(And makes it feel like it still happens regardless)
 

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Also, let's waste time on the secret trysts, that no cares about. Instead of actually developing an alternative path for harem like declining hotel with Brian or alternate scenes like they used to when you declined something in past scenes(like declined mark, got alternative scenes) let's just put all our effort in this side story, and when you don't select a choice it will just skip content.(And makes it feel like it still happens regardless)
yeah I only checked out the first 2 or 3 stories for that one now I just skip them. I just don't see the point in seeing them when I want to get to time with the FMC / MC and the other characters
 

Nafig

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Also, let's waste time on the secret trysts, that no cares about.

Instead of actually developing an alternative path for harem like declining hotel with Brian or alternate scenes like they used to when you declined something in past scenes(like declined mark, got alternative scenes) let's just put all our effort in this side story, and when you don't select a choice it will just skip content.(And makes it feel like it still happens regardless)
I agree.
Now time is wasted on two parallel stories with absolutely the same plot - FMC cheats on MC, only the names are different.
In fact, the authors are lying to the audience, promising a harem from the beginning of the story. I don't understand the reasons for lying, if you don't want to make a harem, don't do it, but be honest, change the description of the story and remove the "harem" tag, a harem is always ONLY ONE single rooster in a henhouse, everything else is cuckoldry, no need to lie.
 

Dessolos

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I agree.
Now time is wasted on two parallel stories with absolutely the same plot - FMC cheats on MC, only the names are different.
In fact, the authors are lying to the audience, promising a harem from the beginning of the story. I don't understand the reasons for lying, if you don't want to make a harem, don't do it, but be honest, change the description of the story and remove the "harem" tag, a harem is always ONLY ONE single rooster in a henhouse, everything else is cuckoldry, no need to lie.
I think it depends on how you define a harem. I don't need every girl to be with the MC to consider it a harem personally. Even with NTR scenes I don't see it being any less of a harem just because I may have 1 or 2 less girls. But yeah the way the harem paths plays is weird if you want to avoid any NTR at all with Katrin at least you can avoid it with the FMC. But yeah if you personally need to include everyone in your personal definition of a harem it for sure doesn't work.
 

Nafig

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I think it depends on how you define a harem. I don't need every girl to be with the MC to consider it a harem personally. Even with NTR scenes I don't see it being any less of a harem just because I may have 1 or 2 less girls. But yeah the way the harem paths plays is weird if you want to avoid any NTR at all with Katrin at least you can avoid it with the FMC. But yeah if you personally need to include everyone in your personal definition of a harem it for sure doesn't work.
For me, a harem is a collection of characters purely by choice. The presence of character "A" in the harem should not depend on the presence of character "B" in the harem. There can't be characters in a harem that cheat on the MC, that's not a harem, that's a cuckold. A forced harem is as evil as a forced cuckold.
 

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For me, a harem is a collection of characters purely by choice. The presence of character "A" in the harem should not depend on the presence of character "B" in the harem. There can't be characters in a harem that cheat on the MC, that's not a harem, that's a cuckold. A forced harem is as evil as a forced cuckold.
Yeah I get you I wish the choices were a laid out better cause it does feel weird and really only works if you are open minded or don't mind NTR . Personally I like the idea of having a little NTR for this game anyways in my harem play through. however im not really a harem player I prefer solo paths. But I like the idea of cheating going on it personally just to add some drama to spice things up as most harems the girls are accepting to damn easy.

Any other game I would of hated any of the LI cheating. tho but because ths isn't a pure harem but both a NTR/NTS and harem game doesn't bother. I actually didn't know this was gonna have a harem until like 2 or 3 updates ago thought it was mostly a NTR/ NTS game.

But I agree with the issues around it
 

LukasM

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Does the FMC betray the MC? I haven't played the new version yet they haven't translated it in my country yet if that happened I don't even play it anymore because at the beginning they said there would be a harem route that would be avoided ntr I can't believe they did that what a disappointment it was in my top 3 favorite games if anyone can confirm me if there was ntr I would appreciate it
 

Dessolos

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Does the FMC betray the MC? I haven't played the new version yet they haven't translated it in my country yet if that happened I don't even play it anymore because at the beginning they said there would be a harem route that would be avoided ntr I can't believe they did that what a disappointment it was in my top 3 favorite games if anyone can confirm me if there was ntr I would appreciate it
if you want to include Katrin in your Harem she is gonna sleep with Brain no matter what. But you can choice to not kiss Brain and decline the other NTR options for the FMC. It doesn't show the sex in the hotel in this update so it's unclear if the FMC did cheat or not even if you pick to not kiss him. But I want to say she didn't, I think it will be made clear in the next update. As it doesn't show the threesome so im hoping when they show the threesome via video from Katrin it will have variations 1 NTR and 1 non NTR base on your decisions.

Not 100% but I think you need to go with the NTR options if you want incest between FMC and Katrin.
 
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