Yeah, supporting characters that sleep with women in like 5 minutes flat with no seduction shown are just inherently less interesting. (A lot of the audience wants to see the conquest play out, at least if you're trying to tell an erotic story.)
And Ronnie was introduced as an instant-NTR character, so it's kind of hard to backtrack and then say this is a negotiated relationship between the spouses.
The trainwreck continues...and it had such a promising start. I get it, the Devs engage a lot with their public and seem like nice people. Yet, not sure how one cannot view this VN as a bit of a clusterF. I keep downloading it hoping it is straightened out, but it keeps jumping any semblance of coherence or logic...even porn logic. Oh well.
To enter Ronnie's NTS path, does FMC have to betray MC first? With Ronnie? I didn't play the last ones att
Dessolos
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I just double checked. Looks you don't have to cheat which makes his NTS path not so bad now to me I still hate him cause his NTR path but not as much now.
You get the not enough exp if you pick this choice
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But if you if you keep going through the convo the MC ask to meet him and she agrees.
tho I am not 100% sure because the next choice show not enough experience. So I think we have to wait and see
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Thanks, I also agree, I wouldn't like it if I had to cheat before playing this path, this way it's much better.
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Okay.... I have tried this AVN a few times, and I really want to like it. I like the cheating routes for the GF. I played the Hubby straight and I tried to make it so he was always faithful while the GF cheated on him as often as possible. I was hoping for the BF/MC catching the GF cheating then perhaps some fireworks, but no, instead she takes some dude into a bath room and there is the BF/MC getting a blowie. Now the GF can choose to get plowed in front of the MC/BF and he is okay with it. FFS... I wanted some fireworks. I wanted the BF/MC to get all pissed of at his slut of a GF but once again, as it happens in all of these NTR games, the dude inevitably ends up as a cuck the and wife/gf just gets away with it. Which is fine if you are into that, but ffs, NONE of these games has scenarios where the BF/MC gets to bust the GF.
So, before I delete this AVN and never come back, I wanted to ask if it was possible for the MC to stay completely faithful? And if yes,is there any scenario where the MC catches her cheating?
If there is no route for this and the MC always ends up a cuck who is okay with it, then it's not really NTR.
So, before I delete this AVN and never come back, I wanted to ask if it was possible for the MC to stay completely faithful? And if yes,is there any scenario where the MC catches her cheating?
If there is no route for this and the MC always ends up a cuck who is okay with it, then it's not really NTR.
Why would MC ask his girlfriend to introduce him to some Rorry, even if you never make a choice netorase?
No, it's still a bug. The PURE NETORASE choice is still active even if you rejected Brian, which means there's only one possible outcome. Characters keep mentioning that MC saw the photos, but MC looked at Brian's phone and didn't see any photos, only a message. And besides, the netorase with Mark is active in any case when talking to Michael in the pool.
It's just that many routes here are unavoidable, instead they are hidden from the player with "jump" buttons and a message that you haven't experienced it yet, but they still remain in the story. Try to refuse the affair with Brian's wife and eventually you will see the message "It was a good night" and the MC will say that Brian's wife will lend him money for a photo studio. Often this is just an illusion of choice, in reality just "watch" and "skip" buttons.
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vermazusa
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I said this at the beginning of this game, having played the Dev's other games, keep it simple. All the others started out like Girlfriend but the stories went off the track with too many characters and too many subplots. In season 2, please keep the story less complicated....there are more than enough characters & stories to develop without adding more. For instance, much more could be developed with Brian's wife and the MC, the MC and his subordinate, etc. But I would hate to see the FMC just become a fucktoy who can't resist an advance of another man & woman - continuous netorase. Also, when his wife cheats on him or he shares her, I wouldl like to see some mixed emotions, such as jealousy or humiliation (netorare), be expressed like most normal young men his age would feel/express about the young woman he loves and about to marry being sexually intimate with others.
Dude, this is originally a netorase, cuckold and swinging game. Everything is designed this way. I was just outraged by the lack of real choice. I don't like placeholders that don't affect anything. Otherwise, the game is in the same style as it started and you are unlikely to see a regular NTR.
No amount of Olympic level gymnastics used to explain away NOT showing the hotel scene will ever be okay. This, like many games on this sight are porn games pure and simple. SHOW THE FREAKIN PORN 
. Their is never gonna to be an okay direction creatively for NOT showing a sex scene in a freakin porn game. Like why are you even making this game? To sell your lame story, centered around kinks? GTFO.
This site has kinks from the deepest depth of weird and sick, yet somehow GOOD game devs are able to craft that into a game with a lot of fucking in everywhichway you could imagine. Even if you put it behind a window drape, they are showing it. I'm not of fan of the Ronnie thing either and the half-ass Mark scenes as well(why are we staring at a cucks dick for most of the sex scene and only get like two seconds of the FMC getting fucked? WTF is this shit?
. Their is never gonna to be an okay direction creatively for NOT showing a sex scene in a freakin porn game. Like why are you even making this game? To sell your lame story, centered around kinks? GTFO.This site has kinks from the deepest depth of weird and sick, yet somehow GOOD game devs are able to craft that into a game with a lot of fucking in everywhichway you could imagine. Even if you put it behind a window drape, they are showing it. I'm not of fan of the Ronnie thing either and the half-ass Mark scenes as well(why are we staring at a cucks dick for most of the sex scene and only get like two seconds of the FMC getting fucked? WTF is this shit?
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Ero - Sennin
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Wait, im confused what you all mean. That earlier cheating scene IS required to activate that path.
The requisite earlier 4 ntrronnysi points are accumulated prior when she stays at the apartment and fucks him, along with talking on phone. This combined with the above then produces the requisite 8 for
Otherwise, the result is the same as answering in the negative. So to be crystal clear, as of the current version, it is neccesary for fmc to cheat with ronny earlier to activate this path.
Dessolos
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idk I don't look at the code don't got time for that I just was going by the dialogue and from the dialogue it wasn't crystal Clear. Cause the first choice made it seem like it didn't matter since the FMC agreed to having Ronnie meet the MC but then the other choices says the don't got exp . So yeah wouldn't be surprised if it is required
oh no i agree with you based on the dialogue alone it isn't clear, since she gives similar ambigious responses no matter what MC picks.
Which is why I looked through the code to to be sure, and yes, the earlier sex scene is required to set the flag.
Wait, so you NTR Mustapha, the guy you should be NTR'ing the husband with, with his brother Ronny? And Mustapha acts all hurt and pissy. WTF is this, the Inception of cuckold games?
A little too needlessly convoluted. Apparently the rest of the game is pretty much like this too, from what I'm reading in these posts. I've been just skipping forward a lot. Waiting to NTR the NTR with the NTR, but then the NTR gets jealous of the NTR and NTR's the NTR with another NTR, which totally gets NTR'd.
A little too needlessly convoluted. Apparently the rest of the game is pretty much like this too, from what I'm reading in these posts. I've been just skipping forward a lot. Waiting to NTR the NTR with the NTR, but then the NTR gets jealous of the NTR and NTR's the NTR with another NTR, which totally gets NTR'd.
Also, WHO on earth are martina and carl? it's liek they just popped up!
There are just far too many characters and no reason to care about any of them or their relation (if any) to the two main characters. And now here is Bob and Marie. "We are going to sex now". And here's Dave. [NTR with Dave? Yes/No]. And his wife Beatrice. [Should Bob harem with Beatrice? Yes/No]. No. [Should Bob harem with Beatrice NOW?] Yes. [Sorry. Not enough points since you didn't already harem with Beatrice]. Here's Beatrice's Aunt. [Should Bob Harem with Beatrice's Aunt?]
Here comes Gus.
Here comes Gus.
worldkaiser
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I really love this game, and I also appreciate the wholesome developer couple behind it. However, it’s disappointing to see the visual novel going downhill lately. The focus has shifted to side characters who lack depth and emotional connection, making it hard to care about them. Unfortunately, this decline is reflected in recent ratings and player feedback.
Lucrezia&Augusto PLEASE!! save our beloved VN and focus on the main characters.
With love - your concerned fan.
Lucrezia&Augusto PLEASE!! save our beloved VN and focus on the main characters.
With love - your concerned fan.