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the game is tagged as futa/trans protagonist but the MC is a skinny dude that goes by he/him?
In the game people refer to the MC as he/him and it was tagged male protagonist at the very beginning if i'm not mistaken, but a lot of people complained that "he" was clearly a female model with a dick attached to it(and they're right) so the mods changed to futa/trans protagonist.
 

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If people actually read the dialogue and didn't just fast forward through it all they'd very quickly realize that it's a part of the setting. Everyone has boobs and looks feminine to varying degrees, both male and female, and genders look similar enough that they use color to distinguish them instead. This is all explained in the first five minutes, before the first choice even.
 

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If people actually read the dialogue and didn't just fast forward through it all they'd very quickly realize that it's a part of the setting. Everyone has boobs and looks feminine to varying degrees, both male and female, and genders look similar enough that they use color to distinguish them instead. This is all explained in the first five minutes, before the first choice even.
Almost as if users on this site ignore the game's world building because they want to put their gooning in neat little boxes.
 
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Thats so disappointing. I was hyped for that update today lol. Ah well. I am guessing his November update will be months delayed as well. Oh well, hopefully its worth the wait.
 
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the plot forces you to suck off to a nation of slavers and rapist who hate one race cause they aren't the same.
To be fair, no one side in this setting is absolutely good, but considering what happens immediately after you side with the beasts, going from 0 to 60 with the wanton pillaging, raping, and killing of even children with malicious glee, the lore that different tribes of beast still regularly kill each other even while the war is happening, as well as the fact that it turns the character into a ruthless monster who will stretch logic for any excuse to torture and kill their former friends just because they're human, the plot makes it very hard to feel bad for them after seeing all of that.

Siding with the elves isn't much better, considering some of the people you work with are just absolute assholes or shady as all fuck and the fact that it guilt trips you by making the first potential LI hang herself if you go the route of choosing any of the other ones, or just kind of agree with the hard choice of keeping her safe only to then be hit by that shit out of left field. Yeah, so far it isn't so much that I like the human route the best as it's that I just strongly dislike the other two and feel the human route is the only one I can actually kind of enjoy. You also cannot call them a nation of rapists, we've only seen one instance of that and it was hidden off in a corner like it was something that soldier should not have been doing, meaning it's not allowed. There's also the hope that you can change things from the top eventually.

As a final small point, the route differences in this game also stem not from your choices but in changes to other characters. The wizard chick just swaps personalities for the human and elf route, the deviation stems from how she reacts to you, not any action of your own, which means we can assume that characters across different routes can similarly become different people and you can't trust any vision of them from other routes, the facts can just change.

As a final final small point, I also like the human route as the only that doesn't shift the character's design. Those changes go against the idea that everyone can eventually get along and forces it onto you that this cannot happen and that if you change sides you need to absolutely abandon your former self and humanity as a whole, labeling them all as an evil to be killed, which leaves you right back at square one. The beast route is by far the most aggressive about this with how the character is suddenly okay with things that previously disgusted them because it's fine now that it's aimed at humanity. Everyone here starts out as wanting to kill the other without any compromise, changing routes does not change this.
 
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ok so your a rapist too is what you mean plus guess what? NO FUCKING SLAVE IS WILLING TO HAVE SEX AND WEVE SEEN ELFS GETTING ENSLAVED BY HUMANS AND USED A SEX SLAVES IN THEIR HOMES. and seeing as how your dumbass cant even understand what rape is im not gonna trust your thing about the beast side going from 0 to 60 since you lie in the very first fucking sentence about rape. and how the fuck are the elfs bad cause they are shady? in your logic every fucking human on earth including children are shady heck even animals are shady now. like just because your ass wants to think they are shady doesn't mean they are. heck the humans are more shady then the elfs seeing as how the humans literally torture and mind fuck you and your supposed friends don't even try to help when they see what the council did to you.
Hes not lying about the beasts being absolutely brutal. They rape and murder just as much as the humans. Theres a scene with an orc raping a human woman just because he can. Both sides of this war are extremely nasty. But thats not everyone either. Some people are consumed with revenge and believe the evil actions of one side justifies any action in retaliation. Others, like said orc are just opportunist taking advantage of the mutual hate to do evil acts. I will say that siding with the humans doesnt mean the MC sides with slavery. They just feel its their purpose to help humans and they want to stop the violence.

I will say this. If your saying that the horrible acts of humans justifies killing them all, then your no different from the humans. They justify their actions vs the beasts with the beast's history of violence.
 
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Why is bro mad? The game is clearly tagged with rape.
Simply reading a story does not mean you agree with its content.
 
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Sounds like most go into this expecting neutrality....I'm sorry to say but that isn't the case and it won't make much sense... Perhaps it would have been possible if humans weren't such pieces of shits...to me at least...it appears the Beasts are simply retaliating to their cruel acts....
For starters, humans want nothing but complete dominance of other races meanwhile hogging all the resources.... Elves are the best example of that greed and cruelty.... Lets rewind back a bit to the moment that made the MC pick sides....that could've been avoided if that musclehead didn't kill that beast girl... In any case...I find the beast route quite appealing and just.... For one to understand the pain they put others...they, themselves must be put through the same ordeal...Ahh damn it..
I sound like Nagato from Naruto... :KEK: :LOL:
 

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Thats so disappointing. I was hyped for that update today lol. Ah well. I am guessing his November update will be months delayed as well. Oh well, hopefully its worth the wait.
It was delayed 3 days, not 3 months.

It works for me since its going to be weekend (y)
 

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Sounds like most go into this expecting neutrality....I'm sorry to say but that isn't the case and it won't make much sense... Perhaps it would have been possible if humans weren't such pieces of shits...to me at least...it appears the Beasts are simply retaliating to their cruel acts....
For starters, humans want nothing but complete dominance of other races meanwhile hogging all the resources.... Elves are the best example of that greed and cruelty.... Lets rewind back a bit to the moment that made the MC pick sides....that could've been avoided if that musclehead didn't kill that beast girl... In any case...I find the beast route quite appealing and just.... For one to understand the pain they put others...they, themselves must be put through the same ordeal...Ahh damn it..
I sound like Nagato from Naruto... :KEK: :LOL:
Nah, the beasts definitely take the cake on cruelty. It's stated in lore that even with the war against humanity groups of them kill other beasts simply for the fun of it, humans are at least united to some degree. The very first victory you take beasts on in their route shows them running completely unchecked and raiding, raping, and murdering innocent civilians en masse and that's apparently just normal doctrine for them, humans have never been shown doing this. That route has a huge role in making the beasts seem exactly like humanity's stereotypes of them, and again makes it very hard to feel bad for them. I don't remember if it's outright stated why humanity is at war against them outside of beasts being inherently violent and savage, which is very clearly shown in their route, especially since the character, having changed into one, now also acts like a vicious asshole. Also, the one revealed as having killed the beast girl in that route I do not trust in any other route, again characters and facts change between routes to justify things. They killed the beast girl in that route, not any other until otherwise proven. The beast route honestly seems like the dark timeline thus far. And no, you don't sound like anything from Naruto, just a bit like a random internet edgelord, may be trying a bit too hard lol.
 
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Nah, the beasts definitely take the cake on cruelty. It's stated in lore that even with the war against humanity groups of them kill other beasts simply for the fun of it, humans are at least united to some degree. The very first victory you take beasts on in their route shows them running completely unchecked and raiding, raping, and murdering innocent civilians en masse and that's apparently just normal doctrine for them, humans have never been shown doing this. That route has a huge role in making the beasts seem exactly like humanity's stereotypes of them, and again makes it very hard to feel bad for them. I don't remember if it's outright stated why humanity is at war against the beasts outside of beasts being inherently violent and savage, which is very clearly shown in their route, especially since the character, having changed into one, now also acts like a vicious asshole. Also, the one revealed as having killed the beast girl in that route I do not trust in any other route, again characters and facts change between routes to justify things. They killed the beast girl in that route, not any other until otherwise proven. The beast route honestly seems like the dark timeline thus far. And no, you don't sound like anything from Naruto, just a bit like a random internet edgelord, may be trying a bit too hard lol.
I also believe this is a case of we're being "led to believe" as a Human.
Propaganda of sorts, inciting violence and racism against the beasts.

Also Kai in the beast route is the one inciting violence against the Humans.
And I also believe someone was pissed in finding out all of the violence.
For what the Humans did to Feera all the way back in chapter 1, we have no proof that the beasts are that evil other than it coming from the mouth of the humans. I remember the merchant commenting that Kai was a oddity amongst the humans.
He didn't want to attack, he was on their side. (Initially neutral? i don't remember, I really need to replay these routes :unsure:)
 

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I also believe this is a case of we're being "led to believe" as a Human.
Propaganda of sorts, inciting violence and racism against the beasts.

Also Kai in the beast route is the one inciting violence against the Humans.
And I also believe someone was pissed in finding out all of the violence.
For what the Humans did to Feera all the way back in chapter 1, we have no proof that the beasts are that evil other than it coming from the mouth of the humans. I remember the merchant commenting that Kai was a oddity amongst the humans.
He didn't want to attack, he was on their side. (Initially neutral? i don't remember, I really need to replay these routes :unsure:)
Anything from the human route can be taken with a grain of salt, but the pillaging, rape, and murder is pretty clearly shown to be enjoyed on an individual scale in the beast route, to the point of unusual cruelty such as the tomahawk to that child's skull. The beast's own route makes whatever humans say about them fairly easy to believe. And that's just the hard stuff, the fact that the beast's leader tries to kill you to 'prove that you're worthy' feels like a red flag, indicative, among other things, of a 'might makes right' style of collective tribal society, which is just another point against them.
 
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Nah, the beasts definitely take the cake on cruelty. It's stated in lore that even with the war against humanity groups of them kill other beasts simply for the fun of it, humans are at least united to some degree. The very first victory you take beasts on in their route shows them running completely unchecked and raiding, raping, and murdering innocent civilians en masse and that's apparently just normal doctrine for them, humans have never been shown doing this. That route has a huge role in making the beasts seem exactly like humanity's stereotypes of them, and again makes it very hard to feel bad for them. I don't remember if it's outright stated why humanity is at war against them outside of beasts being inherently violent and savage, which is very clearly shown in their route, especially since the character, having changed into one, now also acts like a vicious asshole. Also, the one revealed as having killed the beast girl in that route I do not trust in any other route, again characters and facts change between routes to justify things. They killed the beast girl in that route, not any other until otherwise proven. The beast route honestly seems like the dark timeline thus far. And no, you don't sound like anything from Naruto, just a bit like a random internet edgelord, may be trying a bit too hard lol.
Hold on... Before the split... There was a village where the humans attacked...I believe that's where that mage girl met her end...if you are going to mention innocent civilians then start there because half the troops that faught humans weren't even military trained...or are you saying beasts don't have innocent civilians? Humans are the aggressors...
 

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Hold on... Before the split... There was a village where the humans attacked...I believe that's where that mage girl met her end...if you are going to mention innocent civilians then start there because half the troops that faught humans weren't even military trained...or are you saying beasts don't have innocent civilians? Humans are the aggressors...
A villager who picks up a weapon and attacks you is an armed combatant, no matter how much training they do or do not have. The humans were never shown breaking into houses and raping and/or killing non combatants who openly did not want to and could not fight, including children, while the beasts were shown doing so while laughing and joking about it.

Thus far, the rank and file human has been shown to be indoctrinated and following orders. The beasts have been shown as individually gleefully malicious. Indoctrinated soldiers killing a perceived enemy is still bad, but they have not been shown to have the wanton enjoyment of cruel acts like we've seen onscreen from beasts. I feel like there's a very big difference.

Both sides may be bad to some degree, but the humans feel top down bad while the beasts feel bottom up bad.
 
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