VN Ren'Py Goth Gasp [v1.0.1] [Frost Mist]

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BTLD

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Aight a lot to take here.
Firstly - My vision for that is that the harem will be mostly Mc's with Mia being in it as well.

Nextly- I dont say "no" to only lesbian scenes with no mc involvement cause my goal is to make the cast diverse and deep and tell a story about all of them.
Also I personally like lesbian content so I will put some scenes like that just because the cast is so hot I wouldn't forgive myself if I didn't use them for all kinds of scenarios, but any scene put into the game will be connected to the main story and will have an impact on it so there won't be any pointless lesbian scenes with no plot relevance.
(Also a friend who checked all of the 20k+ words for miss-spellings and logical errors is a lesbian and I need to pay her for her work somehow:LOL:)

(edit - this next sentence is like version 2.0 or smth so it's like years in the future so chill)
(edit made cause some people got mad that the game is not 100% only fullhetero only mc action)
Next up - Yeah I planned a scene where the harem girls get freaky and the MC is tied up and can't do shit but I have a nice story explanation for that and its not like there will be many scenes like that, probably one cause it fits one plot point.
(Also they will untie him at some point so don't worry.) Okay no more spoilers hehe.

Next - There's no plan to bring mia ex into the game, its just a cheeky line in the bio. If there will be a day where i decide to bring her into the story it will be only as a side character to move the plot forward. No scenes and harem involvement planned.

Next - I plan no incest cause the way the story is set up right now leaves no room for it and i just dont think it fits the plot. Maybe in one update along the way I'll leave some room for someone to do an unofficial patch but that's a thing for way way later. Don't expect it anytime soon.

Lastly - No pregnancy planned at all sorry.
no NTR but I'm gonna tie up MC and have the girls get freaky
also LIs fucking without MC
you can't make this shit up
I guess best of luck to you dev?
 

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no NTR but I'm gonna tie up MC and have the girls get freaky
also LIs fucking without MC
you can't make this shit up
I guess best of luck to you dev?
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Reading is easy. Its a plan for a group scene.
Anyways, added a line to the roadmap section that all upcoming lesbian sex scenes will be skippable. Not that much of them is planned cause till version 1.6 i planned like 2 total.
Thanks anyways!
 
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Reading is easy. Its a plan for a group scene.
Anyways, added a line to the roadmap section that all upcoming lesbian sex scenes will be skippable. Not that much of them is planned cause till version 1.6 i planned like 2 total.
Thanks anyways!
my advice to you , before you delve into the whole creating of games is do some reasearch
from what I'm understanding , from the information you said and all that, this is more of a polyamory type of relationship , not a harem, girls fucking without MC is a no go in any harem , girls having feelings for each other and so on is another no go
it's a power fantasy , male or female depending on who is the MC, the girls don't end up in said harem to fuck other girls or now that they are there they might as well fuck other girls.
take it as you will , just some thoughts.
 

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Yeah. This isn't a harem. This is a Poly since the girls will be fucking each other without the MC. Goth girls always gotta have the trope of being Bi or lesbian. Oh well. Was interested till I read it's going to happen and it's only skippable. Good Luck.
 

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my advice to you , before you delve into the whole creating of games is do some reasearch
from what I'm understanding , from the information you said and all that, this is more of a polyamory type of relationship , not a harem, girls fucking without MC is a no go in any harem , girls having feelings for each other and so on is another no go
it's a power fantasy , male or female depending on who is the MC, the girls don't end up in said harem to fuck other girls or now that they are there they might as well fuck other girls.
take it as you will , just some thoughts.
Edited that one paragraph cause it caused a lot of misunderstanding because of my probably poor wording.

I will dive deeper into the harem solid set of rules like the ones you pointed out and adjust the script plot points accordingly from 1.1 onwards.Will probably replace the planned only lesbian two scenes with something else then. Thanks for a heads up.
 

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Edited that one paragraph cause it caused a lot of misunderstanding because of my probably poor wording.

I will dive deeper into the harem solid set of rules like the ones you pointed out and adjust the script plot points accordingly from 1.1 onwards.Will probably replace the planned only lesbian two scenes with something else then. Thanks for a heads up.
I'm not saying to do that, to change your script or story or whatever, do whatever you want , create it as you want it , if you want to have lesbians add lesbians, if you want to have them fucking outside of the harem , do it, I have no skin in the game.
I'm only saying it can't be considered a harem as long as things like that happen.
if you're doing this VN for financial reasons then you should most likely pick a path lets say (harem/poly/ntr/etc) but if you're doing this cause you want to and so on then you should probably do it the way you want to.
Also don't lie (not saying you did lied so far) , people really really really dislike that
Example saying you won't add X and then you add X , etc
but yeah, that's about it
I guess gl with your VN , will check later to see if it's for my like or not.
 

jadepaladin

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It's not like F95 tags will tell you the difference between harem and poly anyway. If the girls are gonna fuck each other with or without the MC, it's a polycule. It'll get the harem tag but you can just specify in the dev notes that it's poly, etc. You'll still get people griping either way but at least you're acknowledging it up front.

Is rollback being disabled intentional?
 

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I'm not saying to do that, to change your script or story or whatever, do whatever you want , create it as you want it , if you want to have lesbians add lesbians, if you want to have them fucking outside of the harem , do it, I have no skin in the game.
I'm only saying it can't be considered a harem as long as things like that happen.
if you're doing this VN for financial reasons then you should most likely pick a path lets say (harem/poly/ntr/etc) but if you're doing this cause you want to and so on then you should probably do it the way you want to.
Also don't lie (not saying you did lied so far) , people really really really dislike that
Example saying you won't add X and then you add X , etc
but yeah, that's about it
I guess gl with your VN , will check later to see if it's for my like or not.
I mean, that's probably the most important feedback i got.
Yeah I do it solely because i liked the whole dev process, money is cool. If it comes it's awesome - if it won't the project will be the same as it is, a cool hobby. Both ways are good in my eyes.

But you pointed out something very important so i edited the post and the paragrapgh that was talking about it and will check what can i do in my script to keep everything in the way that i want it to be but also with respecting the rules of the genre i picked myself.
So thanks.
Like really. Thats the feedback i came here for.
 

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Edited that one paragraph cause it caused a lot of misunderstanding because of my probably poor wording.

I will dive deeper into the harem solid set of rules like the ones you pointed out and adjust the script plot points accordingly from 1.1 onwards.Will probably replace the planned only lesbian two scenes with something else then. Thanks for a heads up.
Not to make a big deal of it, but in my signature there is a link to a guide I wrote to the harem genre. Some devs have read it and told me it helped them. I haven't updated it in a long time because of some drama. It kept getting raided and was even taken down once because some people really hate harems and got upset about the guide and started fights in the thread (it got put back up eventually). It's kind of a like a basic principals, not hard and fast rules, just like a cook book, it's some guidelines.

Basically, everyone has different levels of things they like and things they don't like, and where the lines are for them. But a good rule of thumb is that avoidable (doesn't happen at all if the player doesn't like it) is better than skippable (happens either way player can just not see it). Especially if the event will be referenced and have an impact on the story either way so the player gets told or reminded it happened even if they skipped it. It's a thin line between lesbian sex within a harem and for the enjoyment of the main character and player, and lesbian sex happening between two people who now love each other and leads to asking why the male Mc is even involved with them if they are happy together or sometimes even straight up some lesbian stealing a girl from the Mc.

Again, there aren't any hard and fast rules, and everyone is different, and at the end of the day you need to make something you'll enjoy making. But if you want to get customers and have people buy into the game and story then it's all things to think about and be upfront about, which you have been so far. And that is awesome, being open to talking things out and explaining stuff and taking people's comments, both positive and negative, on board is awesome. So I want to commend you for that and let you know to take everything in stride and know that no one wants you to fail (and if anyone says that then they're a jerk), most folks are just trying to see if the game you want to make is a game they'll enjoy too, (y)
 

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Not to make a big deal of it, but in my signature there is a link to a guide I wrote to the harem genre. Some devs have read it and told me it helped them. I haven't updated it in a long time because of some drama. It kept getting raided and was even taken down once because some people really hate harems and got upset about the guide and started fights in the thread (it got put back up eventually). It's kind of a like a basic principals, not hard and fast rules, just like a cook book, it's some guidelines.

Basically, everyone has different levels of things they like and things they don't like, and where the lines are for them. But a good rule of thumb is that avoidable (doesn't happen at all if the player doesn't like it) is better than skippable (happens either way player can just not see it). Especially if the event will be referenced and have an impact on the story either way so the player gets told or reminded it happened even if they skipped it. It's a thin line between lesbian sex within a harem and for the enjoyment of the main character and player, and lesbian sex happening between two people who now love each other and leads to asking why the male Mc is even involved with them if they are happy together or sometimes even straight up some lesbian stealing a girl from the Mc.

Again, there aren't any hard and fast rules, and everyone is different, and at the end of the day you need to make something you'll enjoy making. But if you want to get customers and have people buy into the game and story then it's all things to think about and be upfront about, which you have been so far. And that is awesome, being open to talking things out and explaining stuff and taking people's comments, both positive and negative, on board is awesome. So I want to commend you for that and let you know to take everything in stride and know that no one wants you to fail (and if anyone says that then they're a jerk), most folks are just trying to see if the game you want to make is a game they'll enjoy too, (y)
aye that's a good thread (harem guidelines)
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Not to make a big deal of it, but in my signature there is a link to a guide I wrote to the harem genre. Some devs have read it and told me it helped them. I haven't updated it in a long time because of some drama. It kept getting raided and was even taken down once because some people really hate harems and got upset about the guide and started fights in the thread (it got put back up eventually). It's kind of a like a basic principals, not hard and fast rules, just like a cook book, it's some guidelines.

Basically, everyone has different levels of things they like and things they don't like, and where the lines are for them. But a good rule of thumb is that avoidable (doesn't happen at all if the player doesn't like it) is better than skippable (happens either way player can just not see it). Especially if the event will be referenced and have an impact on the story either way so the player gets told or reminded it happened even if they skipped it. It's a thin line between lesbian sex within a harem and for the enjoyment of the main character and player, and lesbian sex happening between two people who now love each other and leads to asking why the male Mc is even involved with them if they are happy together or sometimes even straight up some lesbian stealing a girl from the Mc.

Again, there aren't any hard and fast rules, and everyone is different, and at the end of the day you need to make something you'll enjoy making. But if you want to get customers and have people buy into the game and story then it's all things to think about and be upfront about, which you have been so far. And that is awesome, being open to talking things out and explaining stuff and taking people's comments, both positive and negative, on board is awesome. So I want to commend you for that and let you know to take everything in stride and know that no one wants you to fail (and if anyone says that then they're a jerk), most folks are just trying to see if the game you want to make is a game they'll enjoy too, (y)
Gold mine of a thread. Added "read that" to the top of the to do list. Thanks. (y)
I think writing out lesbian content is sadly the only way to go to not destroy the project. Good call. It's good that i can really easily change it in the script.
Giving myself one day of rest and I am getting back to the grind.
 

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Not being able to rollback is kind of a deal breaker for me. I like it but I tend to read fast so if I jump ahead, I expect to be able to rollback and re-read something.
 
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You think I should bother with dropping a hotfix allowing to skip the one lesbian scene with a giant "do you want to skip" button in the flashback or should i pray that people will just press the renpy skip button and forget my sin?
 

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You think I should bother with dropping a hotfix allowing to skip the one lesbian scene with a giant "do you want to skip" button in the flashback or should i pray that people will just press the renpy skip button and forget my sin?
choices are always good but I'd go with avoid , not happening in the story and not skipping since skipping implies it happens anyway.
people who like that type of content will go with it and people who don't like that type of content will chose not to , that's what I'd do .
 

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You think I should bother with dropping a hotfix allowing to skip the one lesbian scene with a giant "do you want to skip" button in the flashback or should i pray that people will just press the renpy skip button and forget my sin?
Assuming it "has" to happen, then yeah, option to skip for the people that don't want to see it is nice.
 

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choices are always good but I'd go with avoid , not happening in the story and not skipping since skipping implies it happens anyway.
Yeah the problem is that this scene is a key point in setting up jade introduction in 1.2 and i base a big chunk of story on it. So i dont know how it could be avoided. Idk I think that i'll leave it as it is now and just focus on delivering 1.1 faster.
 
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