VN Ren'Py Goth Gasp [v1.0.1] [Frost Mist]

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Anyway, my little rant is over. I'll just end by saying that I have massive respect for FrostMist, and I'm sure that this game will turn out well with the work ethic and personality Frost has displayed thus far. Have a good one everybody, (y)
 
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Anyway, my little rant is over. I'll just end by saying that I have massive respect for FrostMist, and I'm sure that this game will turn out well with the work ethic and personality Frost has displayed thus far. Have a good one everybody, (y)
Thanks for believing in me. Really means a lot. Some comments here really made me believe in myself much more than I did before.

Seriously if I could - I would quit my job tomorrow, just so I could deliver 1.1 asap as i feel it created such a fiery discourse that I think I need to deliver it very fast to put the fire out but if I'd do that I would probably die next month.

I will do my best to deliver it before the year ends. I hope. Wish me luck.
 
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Alright, now that I actually played the thing. It's good! Maybe the dialogues can be a bit too cheesy from time to time and the back and forths can go for a bit too long, but is still pretty good. And it has a really nice length for an initial release. There was a lot of effort put into it. That said, I noticed some typos here and there but since the mouse wheel is disabled it makes it a bit harder to pinpoint those out.

Anyways, great job.

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Alright, now that I actually played the thing. It's good! Maybe the dialogues can be a bit too cheesy from time to time and the back and forths can go for a bit too long, but is still pretty good. And it has a really nice length for an initial release. There was a lot of effort put into it. That said, I noticed some typos here and there but since the mouse wheel is disabled it makes it a bit harder to pinpoint those out.

Anyways, great job.

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I'll say it like this:
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I haven't finished this yet. I don't normally comment on these games. I just silently play and enjoy. There's something special about this one though. My most recent relationship was with a goth woman and it didn't end up working out. Seeing the backstory between the MC and Mia, while a bit cheesy, has made me nearly cry. I think it's a beautiful way to show two people falling in love. It feels real and like something I would have experienced if only just a bit different.

I think word choice could be tweaked to feel more natural, but it's a small issue overall.
Rollback would also be welcome.

Other than that, I have nothing but positives to say.
Thanks for the game, dev
 
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I haven't finished this yet. I don't normally comment on these games. I just silently play and enjoy. There's something special about this one though. My most recent relationship was with a goth woman and it didn't end up working out. Seeing the backstory between the MC and Mia, while a bit cheesy, has made me nearly cry. I think it's a beautiful way to show two people falling in love. It feels real and like something I would have experienced if only just a bit different.

I think word choice could be tweaked to feel more natural, but it's a small issue overall.
Rollback would also be welcome.

Other than that, I have nothing but positives to say.
Thanks for the game, dev
Comments from usuals are one thing and I got many amazing ones here but a comment from someone who literally hasn't commented on anything on the site is next level crazy. Like.. wow.
I am glad my game made you feel this way and I hope it will do it again and again. Makes me want to work even harder. Thanks!
 

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This is not how version numbers work. 1.0 is a completed product. Not an initial release. This would be version 0.1 unless you think what you've released qualifies as a feature and content complete game.
 
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This is not how version numbers work. 1.0 is a completed product. Not an initial release. This would be version 0.1 unless you think what you've released qualifies as a feature and content complete game.
I didn't know that before and named it 1.0 cause it sounded nice. But I am not making a patch and a rework of all main graphics for the next update just to switch 2 numbers.
We will have to live with that.
But I will remember that when I'll be helping my friend in making her own game sometime next year. Thanks.
 

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How damn pathetic must a person be to harass a dev just to get their sick fetish? The same thing happened with Flirty F, and because of that harassment, he never released anything again. It's a shame. And if you're reading this and you're one of those who "asks" for NTR in a game that clearly doesn't need it: FUCK YOU.

As for this game, good start. Good luck to the dev.
And I would bet money that some of these people doing this are the same ones who come into the public threads like this one and others and say things like, "Let the dev make what they want," but then they go and DM the dev to try to bribe (or do worse) to get the to add NTR. Like with Detective Necro, someone literally tried this and when the dev refused they ended up doxing the dev. The "Harem brigade," that these guys call incels and shit on all day aren't the ones doing this kind of stuff. I know a lot of devs, and this is a common thing, bribes and threats in DMs from the people who bitch about people in public threads make suggestions and giving advice. I've never known a dev who got this kind of stuff happening from harem fans to NTR devs because harem fans just ignore NTR games and most NTR devs but NTR fans will try this all the time to screw over harem devs by bribing/threatening them to add a single NTR scene and then bounce because they got what they wanted, the "cucked the harem bros." Even saw one time a dev finally agreed just to get the NTR guys to stop, he lost all his original supporters, and then the NTR guy didn't even send the money, he canceled/challenged the payment/transfer or something, so the guy ended up getting nothing and losing everything.
 

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I didn't know that before and named it 1.0 cause it sounded nice. But I am not making a patch and a rework of all main graphics for the next update just to switch 2 numbers.
We will have to live with that.
But I will remember that when I'll be helping my friend in making her own game sometime next year. Thanks.
The important thing for version numbering is just being consistent. Sure, there's a certain way people like to see it done but F95 doesn't have a rule like that.

There's another VN out there that treats each 0.x as a percentage of a chapter. It's the weirdest way to interpret it I've ever seen.
 
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And I would bet money that some of these people doing this are the same ones who come into the public threads like this one and others and say things like, "Let the dev make what they want," but then they go and DM the dev to try to bribe (or do worse) to get the to add NTR. Like with Detective Necro, someone literally tried this and when the dev refused they ended up doxing the dev. The "Harem brigade," that these guys call incels and shit on all day aren't the ones doing this kind of stuff. I know a lot of devs, and this is a common thing, bribes and threats in DMs from the people who bitch about people in public threads make suggestions and giving advice. I've never known a dev who got this kind of stuff happening from harem fans to NTR devs because harem fans just ignore NTR games and most NTR devs but NTR fans will try this all the time to screw over harem devs by bribing/threatening them to add a single NTR scene and then bounce because they got what they wanted, the "cucked the harem bros." Even saw one time a dev finally agreed just to get the NTR guys to stop, he lost all his original supporters, and then the NTR guy didn't even send the money, he canceled/challenged the payment/transfer or something, so the guy ended up getting nothing and losing everything.
Unfortunately it's true, very few games know how to combine harem and ntr correctly (long live the princess, for example), but in general if the DEv already said NO, it's NO, and if they're looking for an ntr so hard then just look for one that's 100% and that's it, but that's how it is, and if you complain the Admins aren't exactly impartial, so let's just leave this here and wish the dev luck. (y)
 

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How damn pathetic must a person be to harass a dev just to get their sick fetish? The same thing happened with Flirty F, and because of that harassment, he never released anything again. It's a shame. And if you're reading this and you're one of those who "asks" for NTR in a game that clearly doesn't need it: FUCK YOU.

As for this game, good start. Good luck to the dev.
And I would bet money that some of these people doing this are the same ones who come into the public threads like this one and others and say things like, "Let the dev make what they want," but then they go and DM the dev to try to bribe (or do worse) to get the to add NTR. Like with Detective Necro, someone literally tried this and when the dev refused they ended up doxing the dev. The "Harem brigade," that these guys call incels and shit on all day aren't the ones doing this kind of stuff. I know a lot of devs, and this is a common thing, bribes and threats in DMs from the people who bitch about people in public threads make suggestions and giving advice. I've never known a dev who got this kind of stuff happening from harem fans to NTR devs because harem fans just ignore NTR games and most NTR devs but NTR fans will try this all the time to screw over harem devs by bribing/threatening them to add a single NTR scene and then bounce because they got what they wanted, the "cucked the harem bros." Even saw one time a dev finally agreed just to get the NTR guys to stop, he lost all his original supporters, and then the NTR guy didn't even send the money, he canceled/challenged the payment/transfer or something, so the guy ended up getting nothing and losing everything.
Unfortunately it's true, very few games know how to combine harem and ntr correctly (long live the princess, for example), but in general if the DEv already said NO, it's NO, and if they're looking for an ntr so hard then just look for one that's 100% and that's it, but that's how it is, and if you complain the Admins aren't exactly impartial, so let's just leave this here and wish the dev luck. (y)
It's been barely 3 days after launch and I am already scared to write anything that's even slightly lesbian in my script after few DMs and comments I got because apparently it's disgusting to see two chicks making out.
Then after that I got a few very questionable DMs here and on reddit wishing me nothing but to fail and renew a game with NTR as a main theme and "See how the money flows from every side".

Like.... It's not about money, and never was.
Cash is cool. I nearly fell off my chair when I got my first $5 patron. Hell yeah it is cool. But not when you have to sell your soul and literally ditch the WHOLE IDEA for it. Like, what's the point?

I don’t know if this is just the usual “new release” hazing or if I’ve just been unlucky with who reached out, but I’ll admit it’s been a lot to take in.

I already know I'll get absolutely shit-blasted here and on Itch the second my first threesome scene drops. Because My characters aren’t written to be brainless toys who only touch the MC while keeping a strict two-foot gap from the other girl during a threesome. - That’s not how real intimacy works, but judging from my inboxes, some people really don’t want to hear that.

At the end of the day, I’ll just keep doing my thing and telling the story that I want to tell. The right audience will find it.

And to everyone who’s been supportive so far: Thank you. Even a kind word makes all the difference.
Work on 1.1 started. I even coded a somehow-working map just a while ago. I think it will arrive faster than expected.
-Frosty.
 

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It's been barely 3 days after launch and I am already scared to write anything that's even slightly lesbian in my script after few DMs and comments I got because apparently it's disgusting to see two chicks making out.
Then after that I got a few very questionable DMs here and on reddit wishing me nothing but to fail and renew a game with NTR as a main theme and "See how the money flows from every side".

Like.... It's not about money, and never was.
Cash is cool. I nearly fell off my chair when I got my first $5 patron. Hell yeah it is cool. But not when you have to sell your soul and literally ditch the WHOLE IDEA for it. Like, what's the point?

I don’t know if this is just the usual “new release” hazing or if I’ve just been unlucky with who reached out, but I’ll admit it’s been a lot to take in.

I already know I'll get absolutely shit-blasted here and on Itch the second my first threesome scene drops. Because My characters aren’t written to be brainless toys who only touch the MC while keeping a strict two-foot gap from the other girl during a threesome. - That’s not how real intimacy works, but judging from my inboxes, some people really don’t want to hear that.

At the end of the day, I’ll just keep doing my thing and telling the story that I want to tell. The right audience will find it.

And to everyone who’s been supportive so far: Thank you. Even a kind word makes all the difference.
Work on 1.1 started. I even coded a somehow-working map just a while ago. I think it will arrive faster than expected.
-Frosty.
Sounds like new release hazing. You've got to have thick enough skin to brush off 99% of the critique you get because it's pointless while having the wisdom to accept the remaining 1% of ways to improve/constructive feedback.
 

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I already know I'll get absolutely shit-blasted here and on Itch the second my first threesome scene drops. Because My characters aren’t written to be brainless toys who only touch the MC while keeping a strict two-foot gap from the other girl during a threesome. - That’s not how real intimacy works, but judging from my inboxes, some people really don’t want to hear that.
I want to be clear that I don't want you to change anything about your game, since it's not for me and obviously I won't play it.

But I wanted to give some reasons why a big part of harem fans don't like lesbian stuff in their harem, even in threesomes, before I put this on ignore. A real reason, not just reducing them to incels who see women as objects, as you just did, weird thing to do btw when you just made changes to try and win them over but alas :LOL::LOL:

Actually I'd suggest you don't make any changes to your original idea since you already have lesbian/bisexual LIs, it's just part of their character and so they being in the harem already breaks the dynamic, since they like women and will obviously be lusting after the others. And even have them in solo lesbian scenes already if I read that right, so this can only ever be a poly relationship, which is not bad, a lot of people like those kind of "harems", so don't change it and, on the contrary, you should add more of it, even that cuck scene of the MC being tied up in the corner and watching them fuck, lesbian fans would love that scene and other scenes where they fuck without the MC.

Also as a general rule, don't bother to make something "skippable", people can skip it themselves pressing ctrl, when they ask for an option ti avoid they want it to be "avoidable", meaning it never happened, that's for any kind of content.

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I want to be clear that I don't want you to change anything about your game, since it's not for me and obviously I won't play it.

But I wanted to give some reasons why a big part of harem fans don't like lesbian stuff in their harem, even in threesomes, before I put this on ignore. A real reason, not just reducing them to incels who see women as objects, as you just did, weird thing to do btw when you just made changes to try and win them over but alas :LOL::LOL:

Actually I'd suggest you don't make any changes to your original idea since you already have lesbian/bisexual LIs, it's just part of their character and so they being in the harem already breaks the dynamic, since they like women and will obviously be lusting after the others. And even have them in solo lesbian scenes already if I read that right, so this can only ever be a poly relationship, which is not bad, a lot of people like those kind of "harems", so don't change it and, on the contrary, you should add more of it, even that cuck scene of the MC being tied up in the corner and watching them fuck, lesbian fans would love that scene and other scenes where they fuck without the MC.

Also as a general rule, don't bother to make something "skippable", people can skip it themselves pressing ctrl, when they ask for an option ti avoid they want it to be "avoidable", meaning it never happened, that's for any kind of content.

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I pretty much would agree with most of what you say here. However, I do think there is a bit of distinction between this game/dev and most others. In many games the devs go this route, turn all the girls bisexual. But, from what I've understood about the developer's statements: that is that the majority of girl won't become bi or do stuff together. There are just like two girls that are already bisexual that will, when in a threesome with the Mc, do some sexual stuff together. I don't want to put words in the dev's mouth, but that was my understanding.

I hate the troupe of all girls becoming bisexual, for most of the reasons you said here. And I agree that there are lots of ways to portray intimacy that aren't sexual and lots of dynamic and fun relationships that a harem can explore between girls in the harem beyond, "In harem, now bisexual and fucking each other." But if it is already part of the character and optional to some extent then I don't think it is falling into the same stupid porn troupes since they aren't becoming bisexual, they already were, and as long as they don't fall in love and really only do it when the Mc is around and encouraging it, then it can be okay. Though most devs don't do a good job of executing it well, but if I'm honest, most devs aren't able to do most things with regard to story and character development well. Most devs would have failed the creative writing class I used to teach if they turned in stories like most games they make, :LOL:

When/if I finally play the game then my reaction will depend on who the characters are, how they are portrayed and how the scene is depicted on if I engage with it/them or not. Not trying to convince you or anyone to give the game a try, like I said, I'm still waiting for the next update at least, just because of my normal rule about not playing first release anymore. Just I do think it can be important to notice differences and not end up just lumping everything into one basket when there are differences.

Anyway, that's all I got to say about that. (y)
 

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Holy shit, just let the guy make his game already. People are so gaoddamn weird on this site. If you don't like something just leave. If you like it, just say great job! No one gives a shit about long winded opinions. He will make the game he wants, that's it! Great job dev! ;)
 
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, from what I've understood about the developer's statements: that is that the majority of girl won't become bi or do stuff together. There are just like two girls that are already bisexual that will, when in a threesome with the Mc, do some sexual stuff together..
I think you've been here long enough to know that's not what he meant.

There's no way in hell the lesbian stuff will be kept between only those two and not the rest and even if that was the case, I wouldn't be interested either way, only if we can have the harem without those two, but then again, why bother at that point, losing too much content.

About what you say after, I was talking about actual harems, not this poly game that already has several lesbians in it, so obviously they want to do lesbian shit if they're lesbian/bi.

Id even say it wouldn't make sense to not have lesbian stuff or even making such content avoidable for those characters.
Is the magic dick turning them straight and lose all interest in women? Thats as stupid as they turning the other women gay.

Anyway, enjoy the game, just not for me as I said.
 
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