- Thread starter Scrot
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They're a sort of What If...
Short answer to everybody: don't expect anything. Just sit by the river and wait.
Development history speaks for itself:
episode 8 came out on 25 February 2021,
episode 9 came out on 13 February 2022,
episode 10 in May 2023.
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WTF,this means 1 update per year?
Good God! What's the catch?Dev being lazy,sick or wut?im new so i don't know what's goin on,this game is top notch,i just finished it a while.
- Nov 20, 2018
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I get that a lot of devs are so, but I really don't like it when people immediately jump to conclusions like a "Dev being lazy". A very large number of these devs do their AVNs in their spare time. Even if Az did this full time (which I'm not sure that he does), there is a lot that can happen that doesn't equate to laziness or milking. Az has provided posts on Patreon fairly regularly (usually no more than 4 to 6 weeks between posts), and he has also paused billing before, like with Ep 8 or 9 (I can't remember which; maybe both). From everything I've seen, he has been fair to his patrons.
Additionally, I think it's only been the last few years (since 2021 or maybe 2020) that the time between updates was longer. Earlier episodes obviously didn't take as long, or this would've started development back in 2013. This started in mid-2019, so it's been 4 years for 10 episodes, overall averaging to about 4½–5 months per update. Life happens, and availability can change. The dev might have been slowed, but I have no reason to doubt that he will continue and for sure finish this game. I don't have access to all of the past posts now, but I think life has just gotten in the way and caused some delays.
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okay man,thanks for clarifying.as i have said im new,sorry.
well i can live with that,i agree many devs are working their game with spare time.
it's not too bad i guess,as long as the dev wants to finish it cuz it's a damn shame if it gets abandon cuz i love it.it's in my top tier games now.
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apart from "life", bonus episodes contributed greatly to this speedy developing/release schedule for the main (and only) game.
and i would love to share your optimism regarding this game being finished someday.
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i.e. it is best to play the basic version first, and then the bonus 1-8
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it's ok to be new but don't assume the dev is lazy. As creating games and actually uploading it for people to play takes a while. There's a lot that happens for game dev. Coding, writing out the story, clothing options, what the characters look like, what their personalities will be like, adding music to game, programming the actions in the game, doing artwork for the game, doing motion options for the game, choosing backgrounds for the game and where the game takes place etc. So a lot of different things go into making a game possible. I find that the games that get abandoned are games that have been out for more than a year or 2 and is only at chapter 1/ part 1/ episode 1. And most of the time you can see on patreon when the last time they updates the game. I find that if they're no new updates within the last 6 months to a year, then the games most likely been abandoned. Sorry to double quote. I just wanted to add a few things. So it takes a while for the game developer to update the game and put it out, as there's so much that goes on between the udates.
I also just wanted to add that I absolutely loved this game. Normally I'm more into kinky/ fetish type of games. But this game really drew me in. Loved the graphics, music was awesome. I loved that there was actual singing music in the game and not just instrumental kind of music. I personally think having actual singing music in the game makes the game connect to the audience more. and I loved the storylines. I also really liked that there's different routes you can take.
I do have a few question though about the game. How do you make your points go up for certain characters without having any choices? For example at the end of each episode it shows you a breakdown of each character for affection, friendship, corruption etc. How do you make the numbers go up during the game without choices? let's say If I wanted to have Emily's corruption number go up, how would I go about doing this without any choices being presented to me? And how can you change the Checkpoint thing from saying failed to passed?
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$4,000 a month.
A MONTH!
I should have chosen my hobbies more wisely.
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it's actually quite easy to get into making a AVN through Renpy. Most of the Daz assets can be acquired in a er.. No so legal manner.. Many even linked on this forum. Renpy itself looks crazy complex on the surface but there are so many walk through videos on youtube. As for audio you can sign up to a few sites that allow you to use some music for a monthly sub. The only real issue is having the passion to keep doing it as creating an AVN is time consuming. Hence why you see so many abandoned projects here. Anyone can start it.. But not everyone can finish it.
I feel like I am having the wrong job, too! Guess I should learn how to code, it seems like the monetary benefit is worth it.
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Coming up with a good story to make people want to pay is another issue. And there's a lot more to creating the scene, coding it (which isn't too bad) and covering all the possible branches that can happen due to choices.
And then, the market is getting flooded with these games with everyone thinking it's easy money, which I don't think it is. The more VNs out there, the better yours has to be to compete. Just a game filled with porn, while it seems good, won't cut it. The popular games have pretty good stories to them with well done characters and A LOT more work done that people realize. If you want to spit out episodes in a timely manor without complaints (LMAO!!!) than you will need good hardware and dedicate a lot of time to it. Like a full time job.
I've been working on something myself, just for fun as I have been programming for decades (not RenPY, but lower level languages like C and C++) so that isn't a problem. Coming up with a good story is harder, at least for me. I have more respect for writers now.
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I just reported the OP with several tags that are missing (like virgin, drugs, corruption). Lesbian (from planned tags) was finally added with this last chapter (if you hang out with Luis and have the MC peep in a room). I think most of the others either were already in the game (but not listed) or have not been added yet. If the tags list gets updated, you'll have a better idea of what's in the game right now.Has anything been added to the game from the “planned” tags?
There is definitely corruption currently in the game. There's a whole corruption path with Emily, and both Samantha and Ashley have corruption scores which affect their scenes as well.