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Dinglederper

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Isnt much but have this one as a thanks, that i made after i got banned from patreron, if one can't pay for it, piracy is the corret and only way.
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At this rate I'm just gonna find a way to start """donating""" to you, you've already given us two quality art pieces in the time it takes Doggie to reassure us "they're working their tushie off".
 

Vndrmr

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Don't confuse donating with purchasing. When the cashier asked if you would like to donate your change, you also gain nothing either. Doesn't stop people from doing so. And if you want to be technical about it, we get info which we relay to you when you start going crazy.
Wouldn't you get angry if you donated money to someone who says will do a certain thing with those money and you later find out they lied and did none of the thing promised?
 

Violet5100

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Apr 24, 2018
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I think people who pay real money and defend the game they just don't want to admit they're wasting their money
Doesn't mean they're happy with how the game is progressing
Ever heard of the term Sunk Cost?
They've given too much already, and it's too painful to admit that they made the wrong choice
So they have to continue to defend the game, and expect Doggie to make them satisfied
Then they can convince themselves that the sunk cost is worth it in the end
When you think about it, you might sympathise with them
After all Happy Heart Panic's development wasn't that slow to begin with
I can confirm that as a person who did pay for it for 4 months in a row, expecting an update that had already been in the works for 2 months...? I can say I'm kind of very annoyed. I spent $40 overall assuming that the game was going to be updated in the 6 month gap since the dev time for updates was almost a set amount of 4 months between semi-major updates. It's so infuriating that the time I decide to go out and support a patreon they just drop off the radar.

Ah well... Glad I got out of there before Sunk Cost kicked in.
 

Violet5100

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Don't confuse purchasing with donating. Donating implies that you are giving money without expecting anything in return thus it is called a donation a one way transaction. A purchase is when one party gives money to the other party in exchange for goods and services. In this case patreon is used in a purchasing capacity as you would be purchasing for the rights of "Information" "Future products" and "Exclusive perks". Patreon was designed to be used as a way to donate but is more of a store hub now then anything.

Confusing i know right? Patreon used as a "Donation portal" yet is sneakily used to basically act as a store front for anyone not wanting to deal with those pesky issues such as taxs and store front fees. Can you just use it to donate? Yes the capacity exists. Is doggie using it in that capacity? No they are using as a store front for the selling of information regarding game updates and exclusive content.

Also obligatory "You don't need to pay to get the content it's posted on here :D " No this website is a piracy website thus is the grey area of the argument due to it being a site where tons of paid for content is posted for free like the piratebay.
But... Doggie is the one posting it here? In fact a LOT of game devs put up their own content and games here. Do people put pirated copies up here? Sure. Does that make this a pirate site? Not really.

Just saying...
 

Shush69

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You know what would be cool, focus on 1 area. Imagine if they made the lab with multiple bosses and then went to the ghost place. Idk i just find it weird that you get an update that ads horses to a ranch with no goal, the restaurant place with no goal, the diaper place... meh , the ghost and lab deserve more focus, and you can use the tavern as a patreon oc place to bang their characters
 
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You know what would be cool, focus on 1 area. Imagine if they made the lab with multiple bosses and then went to the ghost place. Idk i just find it weird that you get an update that ads horses to a ranch with no goal, the restaurant place with no goal, the diaper place... meh , the ghost and lab deserve more focus, and you can use the tavern as a patreon oc place to bang their characters
I won't go as far as to say the daycare confuses me, but it is easily one of the most expansive zones to date. Meanwhile areas like the lab have been untouched for ages, and areas are getting added just to be pushed aside immediately (looking directly at daisies rodeo when I say that). Doggie definitely should've focused on the order that they updated areas on, and only started working on new ones when the previous area(s) were either finished or nearing completion, to both help them focus on things that need to be changed and to prevent feature creep, even if it may result in a slower development speed overall, it couldn't possibly be worse than what we have right now. Btw I'm not even a game developer, nor do I have any real knowledge on developing games, but I just feel that even for a porn game there's better ways to go about stuff like this...
 
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xana94

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I won't go as far as to say the daycare confuses me, but it is easily one of the most expensive zones to date. Meanwhile areas like the lab have been untouched for ages, and areas are getting added just to be pushed aside immediately (looking directly at daisies rodeo when I say that). Doggie definitely should've focused on the order that they updated areas on, and only started working on new ones when the previous area(s) were either finished or nearing completion, to both help them focus on things that need to be changed and to prevent feature creep, even if it may result in a slower development speed overall, it couldn't possibly be worse than what we have right now. Btw I'm not even a game developer, nor do I have any real knowledge on developing games, but I just feel that even for a porn game there's better ways to go about stuff like this...
I don’t like ABDL
 

KittyMaid

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this is factually incorrect. someone as the consumer is PURCHASING cookies from the scouts. the company is then "claiming" the proceeds will go to donation, which the vast majority of it does not. the act between consumer purchase and what the company does with said money AFTER PURCHASE are NOT associated. furthermore, the consumer spent money in the PURCHASING of a full box of cookies. that is a legally binding trade agreement between the two parties (consumer and company). if that box is not full and/or lacks of the proper product, then it IS the company that is at fault and legal action CAN be taken against them. the people on patreon are SPENDING NOT GIVING money in exchange for access to information, builds, early content and the continued development of the game. so, yes, the consumers that have SPENT money have every right to be upset when ALL of these transactions are not met.
Not really, people are still buying to support, its a huge fundraiser. The irl version of Patreon. The cookies are just an incentive, for those who don't care for the cause, they are given another reason to give money. Much like how Doggie started giving VIP perks as a reward to supporters, prior they weren't really receiving much. Since you want to get technical and legal, ill play along.
These are his claims:
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Does he give access to "Happy Heart Hell"? Yes.
Does he give access to early builds. Yes, i even made a post [Evidence: #2859]
Have contributions helped? Game is still progressing so yes.
Are you able to wait, to "purchase" the update you like? Yes. You're given access to whatever the current update is. (the whole cookie thing again. Help supports us in long run, but get these cookies in the meantime. Help finish game, but get current versions in meantime)
Let's look in detail the highest tier, they are the ones "losing" the most.
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Do you get special roles and discord channels? Yes.
Full access to community? Yes. Here is a random user who became Zealot Tier supporter not to long ago. Evidence:
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Progress updates/teasers? Yes. I even posted some myself [Evidence: #2879 #2890]
Access to the WIP Channel (Discord Perk!)? Yes. Obviously it's where i got the post from. But here is evidence anyways. Evidence:
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Can join VIP streams (Discord Perk!)? Yes.
Can vote on occasional polls (Discord Perk!)? Yes. The current update was decide thru that.
There is even a discussion here about it. [Evidence: #2443]
Mango was won of the winners, she is now in game. Mordi is being added.
Optionally submit your name to be in the credits of the current game being developed? Yes.
Those people are featured in the game if they do so. Evidence:
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So where was i wrong? What "transactions" were not met? Pls do tell.
 
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alyvix

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Not really, people are still buying to support, its a huge fundraiser. The irl version of Patreon. The cookies are just an incentive, for those who don't care for the cause, they are given another reason to give money. Much like how Doggie started giving VIP perks as a reward to supporters, prior they weren't really receiving much. Since you want to get technical and legal, ill play along.
These are his claims:
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Does he give access to "Happy Heart Hell"? Yes.
Does he give access to early builds. Yes, i even made a post [Evidence: #2859]
Have contributions helped? Game is still progressing so yes.
Are you able to wait, to "purchase" the update you like? Yes. You're given access to whatever the current update is. (the whole cookie thing again. Help supports us in long run, but get these cookies in the meantime. Help finish game, but get current versions in meantime)
Let's look in detail the highest tier, they are the ones "losing" the most.
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Do you get special roles and discord channels? Yes.
Full access to community? Yes. Here is a random user who became Zealot Tier supporter not to long ago. Evidence:
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Progress updates/teasers? Yes. I even posted some myself [Evidence: #2879 #2890]
Access to the WIP Channel (Discord Perk!)? Yes. Obviously it's where i got the post from. But here is evidence anyways. Evidence:
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Can join VIP streams (Discord Perk!)? Yes.
Can vote on occasional polls (Discord Perk!)? Yes. The current update was decide thru that.
There is even a discussion here about it. [Evidence: #2443]
Mango was won of the winners, she is now in game. Mordi is being added.
Optionally submit your name to be in the credits of the current game being developed? Yes.
Those people are featured in the game if they do so. Evidence:
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So where was i wrong? What "transactions" were not met? Pls do tell.
As someone who just lurks usually, I appreciate how much effort you go to showing these people how wrong they are, but it's sad knowing they'll probably just ignore everything you've said. They're not looking to be shown the evidence, they just want to complain about waiting for something they 'don't care about or like at all that's for sick fetishists' but can't stop obsessively posting about. At the very least it's amusing to see the complete brainrot they have.
 

KittyMaid

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As someone who just lurks usually, I appreciate how much effort you go to showing these people how wrong they are, but it's sad knowing they'll probably just ignore everything you've said. They're not looking to be shown the evidence, they just want to complain about waiting for something they 'don't care about or like at all that's for sick fetishists' but can't stop obsessively posting about. At the very least it's amusing to see the complete brainrot they have.
Yeah, that's why they dont like me, it's just a big tantrum. They grasp at straws just to not admit it. But for the sake of new people i post so they see thru the brainrot. Not fair to just see one side of the story.
 
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Did you mean expansive? Or did you really mean what you said because that's what most of the money is going to?:LUL:
Funny as that would be, no, I'm really just saying that seems to be where most of the effort was. I don't particularly mind the more tame ABDL stuff, but the ones where it's painfully obvious is where it kinda turns me off
 

Theovonpapen

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Yeah i know but whenever i'm quoted i feel the primal urge to post, it's compulsive. I have seen their fanboying/girling for this game is borderline fanatical but it's the internet so i feel like the vocal minority has an easier time becoming the seen/represntative voice for decisions due to that.
I think the best course is to follow 3 things before replying;
1. Who is responding to your post?
2. Is the content of the reply worthy of the time and honor to reply in the first place to which you have something valuable to say?
3. Is there anyone else who already done the very thing you wanted to say?

So let's analyze with kittymaid's info dump shall we?
Now being kittymaid, it's basically a given that she'll never be acting in good faith, so I recommend just being more aggressive than defensive with the replies. Though I have to point out that you'll never convince her of anything, as she's too ingrained being a simp that she'll either move the goalpost or twist the post whenever you do make a point.

Next, the whole wall of text is just there to, once again, "win the debate at all cost". On paper, it does appear to convince some minds like alyvix. However, once glance at his history profile shows that he has only replied once. It honestly feels a lot more like a bot, if not an NPC. I'm not going to say he's actually a sock puppet account, but with absolutely nothing else to go off, his "someone who just lurks usually" feels quite limited in its impact.

Does he give access to "Happy Heart Hell"? Yes.

He did not. It was reported multiple times on HH Hell thread on F95 that the game was never released to the public beyond Discord paywall. Sure, DoggieBones did eventually released HHP on F95, but to say he released HHH to the public is gaslighting. First, it was released by Cirelc and it was repeatedly stated on the thread to support the dev, strongly implying that the HHH thread was not initially condoned by DoggieBones.

Does he give access to early builds. Yes, i even made a post [Evidence: #2859]
Do you get special roles and discord channels? Yes.
Progress updates/teasers? Yes. I even posted some myself [Evidence: #2879 #2890]
etc.
etc.
etc.

This is what I would to like to call a Strawman Fallacy. It's a fallacy where your opponent over-simplifies or misrepresents your argument (i.e., setting up a "straw man") to make it easier to attack or refute. Instead of fully addressing your actual argument, she's relying on this fallacy present a superficially similar — but ultimately not equal — version of your real stance, helping them create the illusion of easily defeating you/trinitycross. trinitycross' statement feels more like a definition dump than an actual argument. It's Captain Obvious that trinitycross' definition dump was to refute the analogy of the girl scouts and the customers have a right to complain. Yet, kittymaid turned his entire definition dump into a Napoleonic target practice for his proverbial line infantry; that being the loads of info dump, as if his argument was that DoggieBones doesn't bring any value to supporters period. Read once more his definition dump, and tell me if it was actually a critique of DoggieBones in general or a refutation of kittymaid's analogy. It's basically when progressive 'christians' cherrypick the New Testament to prove that the Bible supported abortions, when the quotes they took was in a very different definition.
TLDR, she turned trinitycross' argument against kittymaid's girl scout analogy and in favor of the customer right to complain, and strawmanned it into DoggieBones not producing anything in general.
 
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