VN Ren'Py Hard to Love [v0.26] [Qori Gaming]

[Ozygator]

I mean.. If we look at Where it all Began or Summer's Gone, those are really good reworks I can tell ya, If you look at old versions difference is night and day, yes whole progression going at snails pace but we have finished reworks and Oceanlab continue working on new episodes. But this?.. sorry I thought dev will do a similar rework. I was so wrong.

Except for "Summers Gone" the dev ripped out content with the remakes and changes some of the story elements to keep their music when other dev's whose games are more popular actually went and found more music instead. Pathetic when a dev starts backtracking on where the game content was during their "remake".

EDIT: By the way, I didn't think we were supposed to shill some other dev's work in the thread for a different game. So wipe the shit off your nose from OL's ass, and go to those game threads to drink the koolaid and jack off with all the others there.

 

[Just Jericho]

Except for "Summers Gone" the dev ripped out content with the remakes and changes some of the story elements to keep their music when other dev's whose games are more popular actually went and found more music instead. Pathetic when a dev starts backtracking on where the game content was during their "remake".

EDIT: By the way, I didn't think we were supposed to shill some other dev's work in the thread for a different game. So wipe the shit off your nose from OL's ass, and go to those game threads to drink the koolaid and jack off with all the others there.

Anyone who knows me knows that I think SG/WIAB is overrated garbage for a number of reasons, but the constant reworks (and the dumb decision to work on two titles concurrently) are the reasons why SG simps are still waiting for the MC to wet his dick even after 5 years of development.

Something these devs need to understand... people. hate. reworks. It is infinitely better to keep forward progress and finish a project. If the dev improves over the course of the project then that's FANTASTIC! I love it when devs put the things they learned into practice... but apply that to future content. Forward progress. And also, devs should keep their projects shorter if their skill improves or their asset library grows. Lengthy ambitious VNs that take years to produce inevitably mean that early chapters will look more outdated as time goes on, and going back to rework those earlier chapters with newer assets will just make the project take longer to finish.

Qori gaming seems to be hell bent on doing everything the exact wrong way instead of fixing the glaring problems and capitalizing the on the one thing it did right... the static renders. However instead, they even managed to fuck that up by needlessly adding AI filters and plunging the gorgeous renders into the uncanny valley.

Well... maybe Qori will learn something from this... Or maybe they'll give up entirely. I don't give a fuck what they do anymore. If they were smart, they'd consider why they lost the trust of the audience, apologize for this AI remake, scrap it, then get back to work on finishing Season 2 the way they were doing before... Forward progress... and learn how to fucking animate instead of fucking around with AI.

 

[V&M]

Anyone who knows me knows that I think SG/WIAB is overrated garbage for a number of reasons, but the constant reworks (and the dumb decision to work on two titles concurrently) are the reasons why SG simps are still waiting for the MC to wet his dick even after 5 years of development.

Something these devs need to understand... people. hate. reworks. It is infinitely better to keep forward progress and finish a project. If the dev improves over the course of the project then that's FANTASTIC! I love it when devs put the things they learned into practice... but apply that to future content. Forward progress. And also, devs should keep their projects shorter if their skill improves or their asset library grows. Lengthy ambitious VNs that take years to produce inevitably mean that early chapters will look more outdated as time goes on, and going back to rework those earlier chapters with newer assets will just make the project take longer to finish.

Qori gaming seems to be hell bent on doing everything the exact wrong way instead of fixing the glaring problems and capitalizing the on the one thing it did right... the static renders. However instead, they even managed to fuck that up by needlessly adding AI filters and plunging the gorgeous renders into the uncanny valley.

Well... maybe Qori will learn something from this... Or maybe they'll give up entirely. I don't give a fuck what they do anymore. If they were smart, they'd consider why they lost the trust of the audience, apologize for this AI remake, scrap it, then get back to work on finishing Season 2 the way they were doing before... Forward progress... and learn how to fucking animate instead of fucking around with AI.

Dude, I understand your point and I agree. But the real culprits are not the developers, but those who finance them. People accept these ramakes and continue paying. And the longer it takes to evolve the story, the more the developers win. Why do you think these remakes are becoming more and more common?
I believe that making games....
Let me say something first, that utopia of donating money to someone to make art, do what they like (in this case games), is in the past, today it is purely business (with rare exceptions), you pay, the developer posts an update (theoretically).
Returning to the subject, making games today is like any other commercial segment. You set up your business (in this case, games), but keep an eye on your neighbor's business, and if your neighbor created something that made more money and with less costs (in this case, remakes), you will definitely want to do the same.
I personally stopped supporting this type of content a long time ago.
Developers always start well, with regular updates, but after gaining the trust of supporters, illnesses begin, family problems, employment problems...
Remake is just what's hot right now.

 

[flaviopaganini]

Dude, I understand your point and I agree. But the real culprits are not the developers, but those who finance them. People accept these ramakes and continue paying. And the longer it takes to evolve the story, the more the developers win. Why do you think these remakes are becoming more and more common?
I believe that making games....
Let me say something first, that utopia of donating money to someone to make art, do what they like (in this case games), is in the past, today it is purely business (with rare exceptions), you pay, the developer posts an update (theoretically).
Returning to the subject, making games today is like any other commercial segment. You set up your business (in this case, games), but keep an eye on your neighbor's business, and if your neighbor created something that made more money and with less costs (in this case, remakes), you will definitely want to do the same.
I personally stopped supporting this type of content a long time ago.
Developers always start well, with regular updates, but after gaining the trust of supporters, illnesses begin, family problems, employment problems...
Remake is just what's hot right now.

You're right, especially when Steam is favored over the supporters.

 

[MrBenny]

Well I liked the changes to the characters...and I don't get the whole AI shit show that is being spread in the forms as it isn't a huge issue for me. I find the characters and city scenes look more life like with this remake. And the added story details to parts of character story that was lacking is much better now.

Though, I'm not a fan of the super bright white menu background...as it would be good if there was a dark mode choice offered. And with this title's overlay game menu structure is complied differently from other Ren'Py titles, due to the custom game menu setup used. (Normally adding an overlay folder in a gui folder with a custom game menu image would override the default...but not so with this project, so I'm forced to endure the blinding effect from looking at the game menu on my huge TV screen.) Not a huge deal, but it would be great if it was toned down a bit.

I also noticed this title has a in-game walk through now, but this release is missing the a wt.rpyc file needed (note...using the URM tool can enable that feature, but without that file it's useless...as shown in the images below).


And finally I put together a few minor adjustments (mods and custom text box in one folder) that can improve your game play with this title.

• Changed the default textbox with a custom bottom shaded version (more visually pleasing).
• Included 0x52_URM tool which can be used to show what is behind some of the story choices (points, etc. A small box will appear at the top let hand corner of your screen whenever a choice or requirement check happens. Just expand and review the contents.)
• Added a quick menu hiding mod, by pressing the letter Q...it will hide or display that annoying in game feature.

Install: Extract and merge the game folder with this titles game folder.

Enjoy.

This image below is displaying the custom bottom shaded textbox, along with the a mod that hides the quick menu...which for me cleans up the dialog area nicely.

Spoiler: Example use of the 0x52_URM tool....

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Regards.

 

[trumpthatbitch]

Anyone who knows me knows that I think SG/WIAB is overrated garbage for a number of reasons, but the constant reworks (and the dumb decision to work on two titles concurrently) are the reasons why SG simps are still waiting for the MC to wet his dick even after 5 years of development.

Something these devs need to understand... people. hate. reworks. It is infinitely better to keep forward progress and finish a project. If the dev improves over the course of the project then that's FANTASTIC! I love it when devs put the things they learned into practice... but apply that to future content. Forward progress. And also, devs should keep their projects shorter if their skill improves or their asset library grows. Lengthy ambitious VNs that take years to produce inevitably mean that early chapters will look more outdated as time goes on, and going back to rework those earlier chapters with newer assets will just make the project take longer to finish.

Qori gaming seems to be hell bent on doing everything the exact wrong way instead of fixing the glaring problems and capitalizing the on the one thing it did right... the static renders. However instead, they even managed to fuck that up by needlessly adding AI filters and plunging the gorgeous renders into the uncanny valley.

Well... maybe Qori will learn something from this... Or maybe they'll give up entirely. I don't give a fuck what they do anymore. If they were smart, they'd consider why they lost the trust of the audience, apologize for this AI remake, scrap it, then get back to work on finishing Season 2 the way they were doing before... Forward progress... and learn how to fucking animate instead of fucking around with AI.

I am at the same stage. I have no desire to play a remake, and as soon as I see the tag, I stop following the project—not just on F95, but also on patreon if I am donating.

Most remakes simply indicate that the creator has run out of ideas or lost interest. Ecchi Sensi is one of the best instances of this

 

[carting89]

v0.1 Remake
Initial Release of Remake

Say sike or I am gonna cry.

 

[Remarius]

The toxic level on this thread is way up there recently... irony is not lost on me that 99% of the people raging probably never paid a cent to the development. I'm not going to pretend I'm a huge fan of the remake but seriously if you play the original and then the remake for free and then still feel the need to come and rage with entitlement on a pirate forum you might have some issues. Just take a deep breath, let it go and play a game more to your liking..... Its for your own good if it gets you that angry.

 

[John242]

fuck me, another remake; I read the 'reason' from the dev, but lmao they just keep coming

 

[Draver1]

My main problem with this game was that the title was a little too accurate. I had a hard time liking any of the characters, let alone loving them. Are they still just as toxic, or has the remake at least given us a few characters that aren't horrible?

 

[Lumi6]

They did the complete opposite of what a remake's supposed to do.

 

[dolfe67]

The toxic level on this thread is way up there recently... irony is not lost on me that 99% of the people raging probably never paid a cent to the development. I'm not going to pretend I'm a huge fan of the remake but seriously if you play the original and then the remake for free and then still feel the need to come and rage with entitlement on a pirate forum you might have some issues. Just take a deep breath, let it go and play a game more to your liking..... Its for your own good if it gets you that angry.

Ah only praise is allowed, yes? Most people are not raging, just disappointed. And while you can get the game for free here, about half the support of those games come from here

 

[flaviopaganini]

The toxic level on this thread is way up there recently... irony is not lost on me that 99% of the people raging probably never paid a cent to the development. I'm not going to pretend I'm a huge fan of the remake but seriously if you play the original and then the remake for free and then still feel the need to come and rage with entitlement on a pirate forum you might have some issues. Just take a deep breath, let it go and play a game more to your liking..... Its for your own good if it gets you that angry.

We cannot generalize, myself and many others use this site to discover VNs to support. For instance, I support over 10 projects ( See in my signature), and most of the new projects are posted here by the developers themselves. This was just another one that I downloaded through this site with the intention of supporting.

When I downloaded the remake, I found the game to be very good technically, but I felt it had too little story to evaluate. So, I downloaded the regular version to at least assess the entire plot of the game. What I saw was a game that had not been completed, and I thought it was better than the remake.

From my experience in supporting projects, I have come to the conclusion that this project is heading towards an endless cycle of development, which makes me sad, because this developer has shown great technical skill. He would make incredible games if he had someone writing scripts alongside him.

 

[Mantioxi]

Ah only praise is allowed, yes? Most people are not raging, just disappointed. And while you can get the game for free here, about half the support of those games come from here

Exactly.. And I didn't see anyone who straight up bashed the dev. Maybe one.. But overall I saw good critique regarding AI usage and how it worsened the quality of this VN. That's it. Now Discord server on the other hand.. oof. Anime weeb army there will straight up demolish you if you critique this VN like here.

 

[Kakasan]

Was there a reason why the MC's ex-girlfriend ran away, or was she a schizophrenic like everyone else in the game?
It's been a while since played

 

[flaviopaganini]

Was there a reason why the MC's ex-girlfriend ran away, or was she a schizophrenic like everyone else in the game?
It's been a while since played

Not, because the story didn't progress in the original

That's why the criticism with the Remake, because you must wait for the story to continue.

 

[dolfe67]

"Season" 1 already needed a remake of the story but not the renders. Making a "season" 2 was a mistake, as not all decisions were transferred and character's personalities changed a bit. And the story telling was disjointed and didn't flow well, with some questionable elements. Not taking into account that MC was a wimp.

This game needs an actual writer, but it might have been good enough for a porn game without that AI filter. Poor dev might get into depression again, and the fate seems written: abandoned.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

It was Mid and still Mid. A remake won't change that

 

[BLOOD ELF]

Old version was better. Waited so long for update and got this... Dissapointed.

Maybe just continue old version and use some scenes from remake as flashbacks.

 

[Takkertje]

Dude, I understand your point and I agree. But the real culprits are not the developers, but those who finance them. People accept these ramakes and continue paying. And the longer it takes to evolve the story, the more the developers win. Why do you think these remakes are becoming more and more common?
I believe that making games....
Let me say something first, that utopia of donating money to someone to make art, do what they like (in this case games), is in the past, today it is purely business (with rare exceptions), you pay, the developer posts an update (theoretically).
Returning to the subject, making games today is like any other commercial segment. You set up your business (in this case, games), but keep an eye on your neighbor's business, and if your neighbor created something that made more money and with less costs (in this case, remakes), you will definitely want to do the same.
I personally stopped supporting this type of content a long time ago.
Developers always start well, with regular updates, but after gaining the trust of supporters, illnesses begin, family problems, employment problems...
Remake is just what's hot right now.

Can be , i'm not paying shit to play any game and delete remakes after trying.
Does it contain enough content compairing to the original?
Are the graphics/animations better?
Is the lewd the same or better?
If so than i'll be happy to play and keep.
And if not : DEL.