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I get that part but through work I know real women who are actual abuse victims, rape victims, alcoholics and addicts, have bad marriages with both negligent and abusive husbands, and one is even a former convict who killed her abusive husband in his sleep and none of them act this badly towards others. None of them go from love to hate to love to hate in one conversation. They have triggers and traumas yes but it just doesn't manifest this way. In fact they tend to go out of their way to support one another because of shared traumas. Like I get the mom is a trophy wife and the kids also to some degree but they share their traumas and would be more inclined to support each other because of it and not actively tear each other down. And maybe the real problem is I'm not getting enough sense of their back story issues to understand why it's not this way. I mean when Amber is a foul mouthed, aggressive person with violent tendencies who supposedly raised Isabella out of loyalty to the MC and the entire household is attacking each other over every little thing then how did Isabella turn out to be a relatively sweet quiet bookworm? Sure she has her own abandonment issues but they don't mesh with the level of crazy in the household. Especially Madison who is the same age and was raise with her. It just doesn't feel cohesive as one story enough to outweigh the awful behavior of the characters and keep my interest in how it'll be resolved into a harem game. That said I guess the point I was trying to make originally though is it's not enjoyable in a game to read through pages of arguments, hate and general nonsense sprinkled with bits and pieces of story and relationship building. Especially when it's not that realistic and doesn't add to the story. Proper story writing generally has conflicts and resolutions and the characters change and grow as you progress. And maybe this one will eventually. I honestly hope it does because there are aspect of the game I like and the characters are unique which is nice.
Completely agree. I'm finding it really difficult to care about any of the extraneous characters. Madison hating her own brother for no reason, yet being close to his daughter, is insane
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I don't find it that weird because I knew a girl that had really fucked up childhood and she acted exactly like that, that is one of the reasons why we stopped being friends. She would go from being super cool with you to then being super mad at you for insignificant things.
But I agree that it would probably be a good idea to tone it down a little bit, I can see how it can get annoying for a lot of players.
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does it still have the AI slop from the previous update? complete ruined the models face.
Nah dev decided drop AI and instead go for Upscale Daz models. Which kinda smart decision since it will eventually alow her make animations, something that AI filters would restrict her doing.
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This author is still in the learning and improvement stage. A Japanese independent developer makes a game for the English platform. Some trade-offs and choices are inevitable. game and story are worth looking forward to.
Back in day she said she simply dont know how to made android ports. But who know maybe she learned, or will do so in future. But for now seem unlikely.
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I got it by not being on the Nami path, she wears blue when you her by the fridge.
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I don't know 
This game is one of my favorites and I'm definitely looking for the old one. It feels like there's been one mistake after another for this game. It's been 3 years since the game. It's become hard to define this game, the game seems to be struggling with uncertainty.
I had stopped playing these games for a while. That's why I couldn't follow the process closely, but the AI was a big mistake. I guess the developer realized this mistake. The game is constantly in a renewal phase. The big mistakes made + the dev's constant search for the best caused the game to become inextricable. I don't need to emphasize again and again how big a mistake the AI is for such a good game, I'm sure it's been talked about countless times.
If we compare the current version of the game with the old one, it can be said that the past has become more tidy. I think the scenes that take place in the current time have definitely become worse and more incomplete compared to the old version. We had very good scenes in the old version. Elizabeth's warm kiss, Madison kitchen scene, Amber's great bj and night scenes, MC-Elizabeth wound scene, Elizabeth-Amber pool scene (damn also what happened to Amber's legendary iconic bush??).. These are the ones that come to mind. I couldn't see any of these in the new version, I even checked the game files because I couldn't believe these scenes were cut. Yea, the game is being remade, some of these scenes that I mentioned and forgot may be added in future versions, but most of them seem to have been cut. What a pain.
Yes, the game never promised or gave the impression of a slow burn, but what is this Elizabeth scene? Elizabeth was never an innocent mother, but her mature self was a bit shy towards her son and had the awareness of being a mother. She was someone who cared about family problems. Now, we almost fucked her in the first scene. She didn't give anything but the impression of being a slut. There was a very sweet and warm relationship. As my favorite character, this situation definitely disappointed me.
The dev gave up on the AI decision. I downloaded the old version again and took a quick look at it. I wonder why she didn't continue with the old version with this decision. She chose to ignore the old AI renders and continue on. She may not like the old renders rn (I thought they were great and unique). It would have been much more logical to ignore the old 'bad' renders rather than ignoring the AI. There are many games that have shown great improvement in their renders from the first version to the latest version. There is no difference in the number of content either. I was very happy to see that she gave up on the AI, I thought she would continue on the old game. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.
It was one of the best in terms of ui. The new version also looks very modern and clean. Also R.I.P tombi. It was a nice main menu music for this game. Also, I might be late with some of my comments. I haven't played the previous few versions.
No matter what, I'm happy to know that this game is still going on. I hope this vague confusion ends in the right way and the game continues to move forward.
This game is one of my favorites and I'm definitely looking for the old one. It feels like there's been one mistake after another for this game. It's been 3 years since the game. It's become hard to define this game, the game seems to be struggling with uncertainty.I had stopped playing these games for a while. That's why I couldn't follow the process closely, but the AI was a big mistake. I guess the developer realized this mistake. The game is constantly in a renewal phase. The big mistakes made + the dev's constant search for the best caused the game to become inextricable. I don't need to emphasize again and again how big a mistake the AI is for such a good game, I'm sure it's been talked about countless times.
If we compare the current version of the game with the old one, it can be said that the past has become more tidy. I think the scenes that take place in the current time have definitely become worse and more incomplete compared to the old version. We had very good scenes in the old version. Elizabeth's warm kiss, Madison kitchen scene, Amber's great bj and night scenes, MC-Elizabeth wound scene, Elizabeth-Amber pool scene (damn also what happened to Amber's legendary iconic bush??).. These are the ones that come to mind. I couldn't see any of these in the new version, I even checked the game files because I couldn't believe these scenes were cut. Yea, the game is being remade, some of these scenes that I mentioned and forgot may be added in future versions, but most of them seem to have been cut. What a pain.
Yes, the game never promised or gave the impression of a slow burn, but what is this Elizabeth scene? Elizabeth was never an innocent mother, but her mature self was a bit shy towards her son and had the awareness of being a mother. She was someone who cared about family problems. Now, we almost fucked her in the first scene. She didn't give anything but the impression of being a slut. There was a very sweet and warm relationship. As my favorite character, this situation definitely disappointed me.
The dev gave up on the AI decision. I downloaded the old version again and took a quick look at it. I wonder why she didn't continue with the old version with this decision. She chose to ignore the old AI renders and continue on. She may not like the old renders rn (I thought they were great and unique). It would have been much more logical to ignore the old 'bad' renders rather than ignoring the AI. There are many games that have shown great improvement in their renders from the first version to the latest version. There is no difference in the number of content either. I was very happy to see that she gave up on the AI, I thought she would continue on the old game. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.
It was one of the best in terms of ui. The new version also looks very modern and clean. Also R.I.P tombi. It was a nice main menu music for this game. Also, I might be late with some of my comments. I haven't played the previous few versions.
No matter what, I'm happy to know that this game is still going on. I hope this vague confusion ends in the right way and the game continues to move forward.
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This update still had the AI upscaling but she had tuned back the depth of the filters considerably compared to previous updates. Said something about "overdoing it" or something. The next update will be applying the non-AI techniques... at least until she changes her mind again.
Well to be fair though creative proces always go through trials and errors. From what I understood gameplay wise remake was needed because she wanted turn game into proper harem game where players can chose whatever LI they want, so she created that love/corruption point system aswell, as MC Paragon/Rouge points
So gameplay changed drasticaly.
As for AI I dont know why she even chose it. It basicaly lock her out from animations. Than again she say she afraid making animations since she isnt good at them. But that whole problem if she want make money from these type of games she should make long term plans, and even plan game after this game finished, for that it mean she need learn all posible skills needed to make these games. I think her fans also not helped her with advices, instead of told her exactly what she need to do to make great game they just suport her blindly without giving proper advices. Which actully more harming her buisness than helping)
I mean hack if they knew AI bad idea why they waited till she finish Episode3?) Should have told her: just keep old Art but use new Rewriten Plot for Remake and New Mechanics.
She basicaly literaly had to keep guesing what her fans want sometime hiting sometime missing.
But seem she finaly got it. Now Dating Mechanic Gameplay should be just polished.
And Art Style also seem finaly calibrated.
Now she can finaly produce steady Updates. Also I hope her fans would tell her not rework previous AI renders to match new Artstyle she would have for new updates, but focus on new Chapters, rework of previous one could be done later.
So gameplay changed drasticaly.
As for AI I dont know why she even chose it. It basicaly lock her out from animations. Than again she say she afraid making animations since she isnt good at them. But that whole problem if she want make money from these type of games she should make long term plans, and even plan game after this game finished, for that it mean she need learn all posible skills needed to make these games. I think her fans also not helped her with advices, instead of told her exactly what she need to do to make great game they just suport her blindly without giving proper advices. Which actully more harming her buisness than helping)
I mean hack if they knew AI bad idea why they waited till she finish Episode3?) Should have told her: just keep old Art but use new Rewriten Plot for Remake and New Mechanics.
She basicaly literaly had to keep guesing what her fans want sometime hiting sometime missing.
But seem she finaly got it. Now Dating Mechanic Gameplay should be just polished.
And Art Style also seem finaly calibrated.
Now she can finaly produce steady Updates. Also I hope her fans would tell her not rework previous AI renders to match new Artstyle she would have for new updates, but focus on new Chapters, rework of previous one could be done later.
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