Now this is trully good news! I do remember myself being sick-worried about Ker at some point.
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c8m6.1 legate is accessible :
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The link is actually in the patreon preview image, no patronage needed.
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Works great thx! And does include all the Legate+ scenes (and art) from c8m6.1. Never expected there would come a day when I get to see them.
Also - even though the game shows its age - damn. Unlike many of it's generation - it's still hot! Recently I replayed "Dating my Daughter" and it was just such a disappointment. It made me realize how far h-games have gotten since then. It makes me chuckle when I realize the game is 10 years old this year. First posts by ker on his blog are from 2011. But surprisingly - even after all those years - Harem still stands on it's own. It is and always was anime artstyle - and can't compare to modern DAZ animations - but the writing really lifts it up and is still good even by current standards. The 4:3 aspect ratio of RPGM is sadly still really annoying. Haven't played Harem in years and it really hit me.
But overall this was a fun trip down memory lane and (aside from feeling really old now that I know that my nephew is younger than my favorite porn-game) I'm glad I keep watching this thread for updates
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Turned out the reason it is because you need for Legate only scene to seperately have a replay folder that is for download on the patreon site.
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On this note I cracked open the last released copy's picture folder and there are 7,798 images in there. All made with 3DCG, a program which is almost 100% obsoleted. Afaik when Hongfire went down lots of 3DCG asset stuff was lost forever, with little impetus to revive it. To the point where even recreating Ker's models using the software could be difficult. If anyone really wanted to do something with Harem it would basically be a full "fan remake".
Also this. I'm glad that there is some evidence that he is actually still alive
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i've been thinking maybe ... just maybe Ker finally said fuck this i've done enough on this game ... and took a long vacation
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i think so too, unfortunately, all things consideredi've been thinking maybe ... just maybe Ker finally said fuck this i've done enough on this game ... and took a long vacation
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i actually started to play Harem .. when Ker took it over ... been playing every since .. i must have 15000 saves files so far ....
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its a good game, bit dated but the characters are greati actually started to play Harem .. when Ker took it over ... been playing every since .. i must have 15000 saves files so far ....
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I had a play around and basically, Ker made this in RPGMaker VX Ace, and the resolution is effectively set to 640x480 for Harem. That puts a hard limit on any sort of updated image quality. RPGMaker does the overworld map, the pixel-graphics towns and Harem's (admitidly lackluster) combat, which are all essential of the game imo so its basically stuck as Rpgmaker, and without re-working the whole thing in MV there is no way to really improve the image quality. CM3D has a passable resemblance to 3dCG so it "could" look something like this:
hi Donna;
anyway, i'm not an artist, and you'll notice that with all the editing i had to put the images through to get to 640x480 from 1920×1080 it starts to look not much better than the original 3dCG images!
hi Donna
;anyway, i'm not an artist, and you'll notice that with all the editing i had to put the images through to get to 640x480 from 1920×1080 it starts to look not much better than the original 3dCG images!
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that looks awesomeI had a play around and basically, Ker made this in RPGMaker VX Ace, and the resolution is effectively set to 640x480 for Harem. That puts a hard limit on any sort of updated image quality. RPGMaker does the overworld map, the pixel-graphics towns and Harem's (admitidly lackluster) combat, which are all essential of the game imo so its basically stuck as Rpgmaker, and without re-working the whole thing in MV there is no way to really improve the image quality. CM3D has a passable resemblance to 3dCG so it "could" look something like this:
hi Donna
anyway, i'm not an artist, and you'll notice that with all the editing i had to put the images through to get to 640x480 from 1920×1080 it starts to look not much better than the original 3dCG images!
Is that 3dcg image available on the game or you recreate it?I had a play around and basically, Ker made this in RPGMaker VX Ace, and the resolution is effectively set to 640x480 for Harem. That puts a hard limit on any sort of updated image quality. RPGMaker does the overworld map, the pixel-graphics towns and Harem's (admitidly lackluster) combat, which are all essential of the game imo so its basically stuck as Rpgmaker, and without re-working the whole thing in MV there is no way to really improve the image quality. CM3D has a passable resemblance to 3dCG so it "could" look something like this:
hi Donna
anyway, i'm not an artist, and you'll notice that with all the editing i had to put the images through to get to 640x480 from 1920×1080 it starts to look not much better than the original 3dCG images!
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They were recreated by me and not available in the game. I made them with 3d Custom Maid (3dCM) then just replaced Ker's original 3d Custom Girl images in the image folder with the new images, after decrypting it, then running it via the RPGMaker VXAce software so they appear in game.
It was just an experiment to see if I could do it and what sort of effort it would require (lots) - I feel that it is really Ker's game and if he is not going to return to it then any effort is better spent making something new rather than re-hashing Harem.
This might be a weird thing to ask, but lets say if you are put in charged to take over and complete the game, what would you guys do?
I would go back to the original concept, restoring anything that was stripped or toned down. I remember Ker mentioning, way back when it was first remade, that one girl where you literally fuck with her mind, Terra?, went too far for his liking or something and he supposedly toned it down in the remake after that. To use that scene specifically as an example, I would bring it back to exactly the level it was at. I have no such limitations on content, I'm literally willing to do anything and everything, including character death, not that I see that being a thing in this game in the sense of one of the girls getting killed off on screen, meaning for your character to witness, or anything like that.
It's not that I dislike the newer version, it's that I believe it doesn't go far enough for the route it is on compared to the old version. Maybe there could have been a middle ground where you have a neutral, but leaning toward evil option that was the way that girl's scene plays out now and then you have the original bad route scene as, well, the bad route scene.
The game would be continued on this theme, either you were good to your girls or bad to them and the ending would be based around that. They would end up as a willing harem who came to do whatever you ask out of love and respect or a broken harem only willing to do anything because they can no longer resist you out of fear or just outright lost their free will to mind break or magic.
I would also update the images to something a bit better looking than the aged 3DCG renders. Maybe one of the newer Illusion styles, maybe DAZ, something a bit more modern. At least, that is, assuming I can get them all looking like they do now or close enough to be recognizable. If there's one thing I WILL NOT do, you literally could not pay me to do this even with giving me all the money and valuable items on the planet, it is changing a character that already has an established appearance. IF I could not get them looking the way they do now or close enough to it, I would continue with what it has now.
I would also update to MV instead of using VX Ace. This way there is no reliance on installed RTPs.
I have a lot more I would do, which is something I only come up with when I REALLY like a project. When I REALLY like a project, it gets my creative juices flowing and I start coming up with ideas of how the project could move forward or for fanmade spinoffs of the project. However, the list would probably take around three pages to put down in full, so I won't. These are just some of the main things I would do, the bigger picture, if you will.
In absolute, absolute seriousness? Quit immediately and wonder why I took the job.
As far as anyone knows, Ker didn't leave detailed notes as to what all he planned with story points and characters. And there are a LOT of questions there. What was the end-plan with the Angel and Demon? Would the MC take both no matter the path? Would the Demon create basically-hell-on-earth if the MC goes dark path? Would MC's homeland be spared? Would he still care at that point? What were Ker's ideas on how to have the MC come around to the idea of a harem in the end for the endings involving that? That's just some immediate ones off the top of my head.
Without answers to those from Ker, any work anyone else could do to "finish" this game would just be fanfiction. I love fanfiction parodies/games. Fanfiction tacked on to the "ending" of a game I really enjoyed? I wouldn't want to be a part of that.
And I mean, there's an issue with the question itself. Only Ker can put someone in charge of finishing Harem. But if he did, the question isn't needed, because it's answered immediately by "follow Ker's vision to the best of your ability to finish it off." The question supposes one can't do the latter. And if one can't do the latter, it's because nobody put you in charge, you just decided to take over an almost certainly dead project when even those who worked with Ker on it didn't feel comfortable continuing it without him.
Sorry if that comes off as harsh or a buzz-kill, but yeah, no thanks.
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From someone whose played this game during his early days of hentai gaming, it is a shame to see this masterpiece inactive for a year. Ever since replaying it I decided to remake the game a little by mainly replacing CGs by recreating them in Custom maid (inspired by fearsa). If I had the ability to code I would transfer them game to RPG Maker MX for higher resolutions since pictures in 640X480 look weird.
But yeah to remake 7700+ images is no easy feat and it's gonna take time to make this many scenes.
