DougsLeftNut

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i looked and only lin,kali,maria and ashley have this lust option
The features are slowly being added to each character. Just like how one-by-one the characters get additional outfits to wear in the lobby or get added to the dungeon.

Personally, as a suggestion to Runey, it would be entertaining to see characters like Hana, Moon, and Lucia randomly pop up in the lobby, shower, garden, etc. when they or the room aren't otherwise occupied and have options to have fun with them.
 

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The features are slowly being added to each character. Just like how one-by-one the characters get additional outfits to wear in the lobby or get added to the dungeon.

Personally, as a suggestion to Runey, it would be entertaining to see characters like Hana, Moon, and Lucia randomly pop up in the lobby, shower, garden, etc. when they or the room aren't otherwise occupied and have options to have fun with them.
I've always thought it would be fun if there was a way for the MC to take a shower and have one of the girls show up to return the favor from when we show up during their showers.
 

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I've always thought it would be fun if there was a way for the MC to take a shower and have one of the girls show up to return the favor from when we show up during their showers.
I'm surprised they don't all show up, there seems to be only one shower. Of course...MC never takes time for a shower.
 
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Strange. Seems like your game has been corrupted somehow, this most likely happens when mods are involved. Try reinstalling or redownloading.
From what I can gather, there is a thing in 13.2 that prevents the Autumn gallery from working, and in the compressed version, this causes the game to crash when they try to use the computer.
It is not present in 13.0, but something changed in 13.2 that caused it.
I'm surprised they don't all show up, there seems to be only one shower. Of course...MC never takes time for a shower.
One of those many things that happen between time slots. XD
Or maybe his clothes have a self cleaning add on, like Kali's glasses auto tint, and probably do other things like have a built in media player, go on line, record videos ...hell, they might even have wiper blades for when it rains! XD
 

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From what I can gather, there is a thing in 13.2 that prevents the Autumn gallery from working, and in the compressed version, this causes the game to crash when they try to use the computer.
It is not present in 13.0, but something changed in 13.2 that caused it.
I never had a problem with the PC shop but I never look at the gallery. I'm shy. :)
 

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Thanks for the review, Is this one event the only issue you have with Harem Hotel? I just want to point out that I try to make all exposition dumps, such as the one in the library, completely optional. You didn't need to sit down and listen to any of that, because I know there are players like you who don't care about that exposition. There was no forcing of this at all.



I'm not sure how I could made this clearer, you don't have to enter the library in this event at all if you don't want to. And you're given another choice after this to leave as well.

My ears are open to suggestions.
Hey, I appreciate you responding to my review!

Yes, this was one of the events I had in mind.
I think my main issue with the scene was that I am the type of player that loves exposition, so I instantly chose to follow her. I also - personally - felt bad about leaving Kali to have to suffer through the history lesson alone (especially when she responds negatively to you ditching her here). I'm sure people will argue that there were no actual, concrete points lost by skipping, but that's not how I felt as a player. I felt guilty. And this was before I even knew what the contents of the history lesson even were. That's what I meant by "forced." And I'm sure there are plenty of people who play this game and skip the scene without being affected at all, and that's fine. My viewpoint is not representative of everyone else's.

With the actual library scene, I actually really enjoyed the information I was being given about the elvish history. What I didn't enjoy was the constant interjections by Vanessa. I get it; she wants to support the elves, because she's seen the bad things done to them. I'm also a stereotypical elf-owner in her eyes. And maybe you were trying to write her as a dislikeable character, maybe not. I was there to get some nice worldbuilding, not get shouted at by a character I don't care about. It completely ruined what would have otherwise been an awesome scene for me.

This also applies to the scene where I'm meeting with Kali late at night to give her coffee; I'm not even given a choice before Vanessa's talk-show randomly comes out of nowhere. I have to sit through her very opinionated interview with another random elf for several paragraphs before I'm allowed to interact with Kali again. I went to the university to grow closer with Kali - especially since it was her character's event, not hear Vanessa ranting.

That's my main gripe with Vanessa; it's not her ideologies or her political views. It's not even how her character is written. It's the fact that she's ruining your well-written scenes with her presence.
I was confused, because you've done character separation wonderfully before with Ashley and her schoolmates. I was able to enjoy Ashley's storyline without having to be too concerned about Felicity and Emma's bitchiness, because they had their own stories that you focused on. I was able to grow to love them in their own route. Same applied for Kate; she had her own path that I could explore.
Vanessa on the other hand, is super one-dimensional from the player's perspective; I'm not even given a separate route to get to know her. She just barrels into me in random scenes and makes herself hateable then disappears. I'll be enjoying someone's event, then I'll roll my eyes because she'll appear, once again, and ruin the interaction.

Like I mentioned above, I'm sure there are plenty of people who are able to just skip the lines and not care that much. That's fine if they feel that way; they don't have to be as invested as I am in these small things. I am just a single player among thousands after all. But it doesn't sit well with me; it's literally driving my enjoyment to the ground.

On an unrelated note (and this is totally less constructive and more about what I selfishly want, so you definitely can disregard this if you want), I don't like the dark tone the game has taken on. I initially fell in love with Harem Hotel, because I was able to have a lighthearted fantasy harem with characters that were, to an extent, three-dimensional. I didn't really come into the game wanting more politics and emotional angst - I have enough of that in reality. But like I said in my review, that's up to you as the author. No blame there.

Thanks man!
 
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I never had a problem with the PC shop but I never look at the gallery. I'm shy. :)
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But, in the compressed version, whatever is doing that seems to cause a crash, no idea why, I don't get that part at all. XD
Hey, I appreciate you responding to my review!
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Yeah, it's character building. She is a flawed (AKA 'normal') person. She also can admit when she is wrong, and apologize (unlike some people, lol).

If you remember correctly, Kali was kind of a bitch at the beginning to us as well, she didn't even like us talking to her. Ashley literally raped us, more than once. Autumn constantly insulted some of the other girls. They all have issues.

All I can say is to give it time.
 
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Obviously it's locked on 13.2, we're advanced players. :D
On a serious note I'll have to check that if Autumn ever shows, she's like 40 days overdue. Maybe she's in the gallery.
 
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Obviously it's locked on 13.2, we're advanced players. :D
On a serious note I'll have to check that if Autumn ever shows, she's like 40 days overdue. Maybe she's in the gallery.
Owch, good luck with that, can't have a play without our busty redhead! ;)
 

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I know! I don't know where I went wrong this time, all the others are ticking along nicely. She's amazing tbh. I don't remember if there's a trigger or if she should just show up.
Can't say I remember, but have you tried clicking on her door? (Only hint the wiki has so far...)
 
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Only thing you could change, is to remove the page numbers from the links otherwise the only work if you have default page settings.
do you mean dont add trackers? ngl is the first time I make a torrent
 

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Hey, I appreciate you responding to my review!

Yes, this was one of the events I had in mind.
I think my main issue with the scene was that I am the type of player that loves exposition, so I instantly chose to follow her. I also - personally - felt bad about leaving Kali to have to suffer through the history lesson alone (especially when she responds negatively to you ditching her here). I'm sure people will argue that there were no actual, concrete points lost by skipping, but that's not how I felt as a player. I felt guilty. And this was before I even knew what the contents of the history lesson even were. That's what I meant by "forced." And I'm sure there are plenty of people who play this game and skip the scene without being affected at all, and that's fine. My viewpoint is not representative of everyone else's.

With the actual library scene, I actually really enjoyed the information I was being given about the elvish history. What I didn't enjoy was the constant interjections by Vanessa. I get it; she wants to support the elves, because she's seen the bad things done to them. I'm also a stereotypical elf-owner in her eyes. And maybe you were trying to write her as a dislikeable character, maybe not. I was there to get some nice worldbuilding, not get shouted at by a character I don't care about. It completely ruined what would have otherwise been an awesome scene for me.

This also applies to the scene where I'm meeting with Kali late at night to give her coffee; I'm not even given a choice before Vanessa's talk-show randomly comes out of nowhere. I have to sit through her very opinionated interview with another random elf for several paragraphs before I'm allowed to interact with Kali again. I went to the university to grow closer with Kali - especially since it was her character's event, not hear Vanessa ranting.

That's my main gripe with Vanessa; it's not her ideologies or her political views. It's not even how her character is written. It's the fact that she's ruining your well-written scenes with her presence.
I was confused, because you've done character separation wonderfully before with Ashley and her schoolmates. I was able to enjoy Ashley's storyline without having to be too concerned about Felicity and Emma's bitchiness, because they had their own stories that you focused on. I was able to grow to love them in their own route. Same applied for Kate; she had her own path that I could explore.
Vanessa on the other hand, is super one-dimensional from the player's perspective; I'm not even given a separate route to get to know her. She just barrels into me in random scenes and makes herself hateable then disappears. I'll be enjoying someone's event, then I'll roll my eyes because she'll appear, once again, and ruin the interaction.

Like I mentioned above, I'm sure there are plenty of people who are able to just skip the lines and not care that much. That's fine if they feel that way; they don't have to be as invested as I am in these small things. I am just a single player among thousands after all. But it doesn't sit well with me; it's literally driving my enjoyment to the ground.

On an unrelated note (and this is totally less constructive and more about what I selfishly want, so you definitely can disregard this if you want), I don't like the dark tone the game has taken on. I initially fell in love with Harem Hotel, because I was able to have a lighthearted fantasy harem with characters that were, to an extent, three-dimensional. I didn't really come into the game wanting more politics and emotional angst - I have enough of that in reality. But like I said in my review, that's up to you as the author. No blame there.

Thanks man!
Thanks for replying :)

I'm open to hearing suggestions on changing the mood of Vanessa slightly during these interactions, I'll get back to on that later, I'm busy at the moment. I don't want her to be totally disliked, so maybe it would serve everyone better if it was toned down a bit in her earlier interactions.

I think the issue you have with Vanessa's interview with the elf lady comes mostly from your bad first impression of her, would you agree?

There is character separation for Vanessa, she actually becomes a side character later once you get to properly know her, and at this point, she shouldn't be annoying or pushy at all and will actually respect you for what you do.

Harem Hotel was never meant to be only lighthearted. I love including lighthearted moments, and will continue to do so, but I tackle serious stuff like slavery, mental disorder, oppression, depression, class struggle, among many other serious topics. I see stories like a roller coaster, which means there will be ups and downs. I think it keeps a story interesting. You never want to plateau. But bad things happening should only make the victories feel worth it, and sweeter, which are and will be happening, but it's all apart of an ongoing story.

For example, Ashley was very poor as we all know, and Felicity & Emma were very rich, it's no mistake that F&E bullied Ashley.
 
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do you mean dont add trackers? ngl is the first time I make a torrent
No, I mean the link you use to reference to the other post in this thread.
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[URL='https://f95zone.to/threads/harem-hotel-v0-13-2-public-runey.12760/page-1014#post-3766339']Harem Hotel patch v0.12.4 to v0.13[/URL]
The part with "page-1014#" is the critical one as you link to my post on site 1014 of this thread. If other user use a different post per page setting the link doesn't work as intended. It would be better to remove that part, then it will work for all settings.

The other two links you've posted seems fine.
 
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I'm open to hearing suggestions on changing the mood of Vanessa slightly during these interactions, I'll get back to on that later, I'm busy at the moment. I don't want her to be totally disliked, so maybe it would serve everyone better if it was toned down a bit in her earlier interactions.
I would appreciate that a lot!
I definitely tried to empathize with her in the beginning (because I know your characters always have another side to them), but the initial interactions were definitely a little too intense; it made it hard to give her the benefit of the doubt.
She would definitely benefit from the player catching glimpses of her more vulnerable self in between her full-frontal rants.

I think the issue you have with Vanessa's interview with the elf lady comes mostly from your bad first impression of her, would you agree?
Oh yeah, for sure.
I think if you address it in the way that you mentioned earlier, it would solve a lot of my negative expectations for her as a character.

There is character separation for Vanessa, she actually becomes a side character later once you get to properly know her, and at this point, she shouldn't be annoying or pushy at all and will actually respect you for what you do.
Looking forward to it! I'm definitely aware that the story is a work in progress and that we'll get to know the characters as updates come out. But it was important to me to draw attention to these things before there was a chance that things went off the rails completely. I would very much like to be able to love Vanessa from future events.

Harem Hotel was never meant to be only lighthearted. I love including lighthearted moments, and will continue to do so, but I tackle serious stuff like slavery, mental disorder, oppression, depression, class struggle, among many other serious topics. I see stories like a roller coaster, which means there will be ups and downs. I think it keeps a story interesting. You never want to plateau. But bad things happening should only make the victories feel worth it, and sweeter, which are and will be happening, but it's all apart of an ongoing story.

For example, Ashley was very poor as we all know, and Felicity & Emma were very rich, it's no mistake that F&E bullied Ashley.
Glad to hear your philosophy on writing! Story direction-wise - like I've mentioned before, I'm behind you 100% of the way. I think one of my favorite parts of this game is how the harem feels real.

I'll just have to find another way to scratch the more one-sided, wish-fulfillment OP MC fantasy (probably manga or something lol).

Super excited to be able to talk on level ground with you; most creators of this genre would have lashed out defensively. Definitely one of the reasons I second-guessed posting a review period.

Thanks for your time, brother.
 
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