VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.17.2] [Runey]

[TheDevian]

With sex, maybe something like this?:

"You see, A11-Y, mister MC really loves mommy, aunt Ashley and miss Lin and other girls and organic species have this tradition that when a man really love a woman, he plugs in his USB stick into her USB port and then releases a special white liquid to show her that he loves her. Your mommy was build with this USB port, but you were build without USB port or USB stick, because only adults can do this, but, maybe, when you will get older, maybe we will get you a body with USB port or USB stick and then you will be able to try it yourself."

Or maybe something else, I don't know.

And how should we explain slavery to them?

"Humans outside the hotel are mean to elves and androids, because they are evil, but humans here at the hotel are nice, so you should always stay in the hotel and never go out, because if you will go out the evil humans will try to hurt you, and they will try to use you to get to mommy and mister MC and the rest of your friends from the the hotel, but the hotel humans and mommy will protect you, but they can protect you only if you are always in the hotel, you can't trust the outside humans, you can trust only the hotel humans, never go out!" or something like that?

But, Mommy, I love you and MC very much too!

OK, I admit, that isn't going to work.

But seriously, what should we tell them about sex and slavery? They are connected to the hotel's cameras, they probably saw MC and girls doing all kinds of things, and they are also connected to the internet, and, well, we all know what kind of things are on the internet. And they see how Lin is treated in the hotel, but sooner or later they will learn how elves are treated outside the hotel. They will see it on the internet or we will take them out and they will see elves with chains around their necks or we will take them to that beach from that exploration event where that auction was happening and by some coincidence, there will be another auction happening when we will arrive, and they will see it, and they will start asking questions. And we will need to be ready for "The Talk".

Going to have to at some point, but might want to wait until they are a bit more mature, they have not learned the restraint yet, so could end up hurting someone without meaning to.

 

[Deleted member 192234]

It would be easier for the android to just give A11-Y a Hitachi vibrating wand attachment, and get Maria to explain it to her.

That would probably work for sex, but what about slavery? How do you explain slavery to a child?

Going to have to at some point, but might want to wait until they are a bit more mature, they have not learned the restraint yet, so could end up hurting someone without meaning to.

Yes, waiting is the best option.

 

[TheDevian]

That would probably work for sex, but what about slavery? How do you explain slavery to a child?

It depends on your goal, you could explain it like many, by demonstrating how you treat them as less then human, you could explain that this is the way things are but you don't really agree with it, or explain that the system is broken and we are secretly trying to change it.

Since we want them to learn to treat all people equally and with respect, we need to teach them that, before we explain how we are trying to correct the people who don't feel the same.

 

[Deleted member 192234]

Since we want them to learn to treat all people equally and with respect, we need to teach them that, before we explain how we are trying to correct the people who don't feel the same.

Yes, that is true.

 

[KonfinedKnat]

With sex, maybe something like this?:

"You see, A11-Y, mister MC really loves mommy, aunt Ashley and miss Lin and other girls and organic species have this tradition that when a man really love a woman, he plugs in his USB stick into her USB port and then releases a special white liquid to show her that he loves her. Your mommy was build with this USB port, but you were build without USB port or USB stick, because only adults can do this, but, maybe, when you will get older, maybe we will get you a body with USB port or USB stick and then you will be able to try it yourself."

Or maybe something else, I don't know.

And how should we explain slavery to them?

"Humans outside the hotel are mean to elves and androids, because they are evil, but humans here at the hotel are nice, so you should always stay in the hotel and never go out, because if you will go out the evil humans will try to hurt you, and they will try to use you to get to mommy and mister MC and the rest of your friends from the the hotel, but the hotel humans and mommy will protect you, but they can protect you only if you are always in the hotel, you can't trust the outside humans, you can trust only the hotel humans, never go out!" or something like that?

USBs are okay, but whatever you do, DON'T show Android your floppy (especially if it's a 3.5" one). You could benefit from the additional RAM you get with a CD, but you risk ruining the mood if you have to swap discs partway through.

 

[JoePlant]

Or frost elves...

Not frosted elves?

 

[DigDug69]

USBs are okay, but whatever you do, DON'T show Android your floppy (especially if it's a 3.5" one). You could benefit from the additional RAM you get with a CD, but you risk ruining the mood if you have to swap discs partway through.

And do not upload your data into her before she is ready for it.
Premature data uploads are bad.

 

[JoePlant]

And do not upload your data into her before she is ready for it.
Premature data uploads are bad.

Great... having flashbacks to Mistress 1.0 and Wife 1.0 programs..

 

[c3p0]

Not frosted elves?

No, but maybe Oldtoothlessbasterd have some in his chest freezer.

 

[Evil13]

Look, you don't need to explain sex to A11-y yet, because the puberty firmware hasn't been uploaded yet. As it is now, all A11-y sees when she sees a couple banging its just pixelated

 

[TheDevian]

USBs are okay, but whatever you do, DON'T show Android your floppy (especially if it's a 3.5" one). You could benefit from the additional RAM you get with a CD, but you risk ruining the mood if you have to swap discs partway through.

Well, she can install a nice, big hard disk for you.

Look, you don't need to explain sex to A11-y yet, because the puberty firmware hasn't been uploaded yet. As it is now, all A11-y sees when she sees a couple banging its just pixelated

Oh, man, that killed me. XD

 

[27X]

The story, the character and their development. As many others, I may have come for the porn, but stayed for the story.
Still if you want make an own thread ask your question and hopefully get answers that will help you you. You wouldn't be the first aspiring game dev doing that and wouldn't be the last or you could search for similar threads before posting your own...

Runey sticking with 1 is annoying because yes reliant very hard on forcing the art style carrying equal with words whereas pinkcake can flub a mini arc and just dump a "oh wait 4K fantasy roleplay interlude with four anims and super boss blender lighting, ignore that everyone hates new girl"

But that's a distinct part of the point. This game's art style being a literal decade old means the story has to carry. Hard. and because of that runey has an advantage pinkcake does not.... fully fleshed characters that do not simply exist to be a gamified onahole (talking?! in my pr0n, fuck that noise! Literally!) These characters are characters, they aren't waiting around for hero mcpenis to circumscribe their existence (yes with the exceptions of Lin and Droid, because that's literally their job).

Characters that change and evolve over the course of the story, sometimes for the worse. Characters that have opposing ideals and dreams. For every moment of fanservice, there is also the notion that this hotel is quite actually hanging by a thread in several ways, and none of them are arbitrary or artificial just for drama points, unlike the other game mentioned which quite literally has several characters as actual cockblock/story noise, which doesn't anywhere near the same kind of depth.

For a game about snogging pointy eared waifus the game is hella wide and hella deep... and not done yet.

Sure runey could take a LITERAL year and "convert" things to hs2 and probably pick up a bunch of new folks, but that doesn't change the story and that's the actual reason people still buy/dl/play this.

 

[TheDevian]

Runey sticking with 1 is annoying because yes reliant very hard on forcing the art style carrying equal with words whereas pinkcake can flub a mini arc and just dump a "oh wait 4K fantasy roleplay interlude with four anims and super boss blender lighting, ignore that everyone hates new girl"

But that's a distinct part of the point. This game's art style being a literal decade old means the story has to carry. Hard. and because of that runey has an advantage pinkcake does not.... fully fleshed characters that do not simply exist to be a gamified onahole (talking?! in my pr0n, fuck that noise! Literally!) These characters are characters, they aren't waiting around for hero mcpenis to circumscribe their existence (yes with the exceptions of Lin and Droid, because that's literally their job).

Characters that change and evolve over the course of the story, sometimes for the worse. Characters that have opposing ideals and dreams. For every moment of fanservice, there is also the notion that this hotel is quite actually hanging by a thread in several ways, and none of them are arbitrary or artificial just for drama points, unlike the other game mentioned which quite literally has several characters as actual cockblock/story noise, which doesn't anywhere near the same kind of depth.

For a game about snogging pointy eared waifus the game is hella wide and hella deep... and not done yet.

Sure runey could take a LITERAL year and "convert" things to hs2 and probably pick up a bunch of new folks, but that doesn't change the story and that's the actual reason people still buy/dl/play this.

Personally, I like HS1 better than 2 in a lot of ways (but I prefer 2d over 3d), there are a lot more mods for it, and I know how to convert the custom assets I make for HS1. This means he can have a lot of custom things made for his game, that no one else has.

But in all honesty, the graphics are one of the least important parts of this game, and yet they keep improving. lol

 

[Runey]

Runey sticking with 1 is annoying because yes reliant very hard on forcing the art style carrying equal with words whereas pinkcake can flub a mini arc and just dump a "oh wait 4K fantasy roleplay interlude with four anims and super boss blender lighting, ignore that everyone hates new girl"

But that's a distinct part of the point. This game's art style being a literal decade old means the story has to carry. Hard. and because of that runey has an advantage pinkcake does not.... fully fleshed characters that do not simply exist to be a gamified onahole (talking?! in my pr0n, fuck that noise! Literally!) These characters are characters, they aren't waiting around for hero mcpenis to circumscribe their existence (yes with the exceptions of Lin and Droid, because that's literally their job).

Characters that change and evolve over the course of the story, sometimes for the worse. Characters that have opposing ideals and dreams. For every moment of fanservice, there is also the notion that this hotel is quite actually hanging by a thread in several ways, and none of them are arbitrary or artificial just for drama points, unlike the other game mentioned which quite literally has several characters as actual cockblock/story noise, which doesn't anywhere near the same kind of depth.

For a game about snogging pointy eared waifus the game is hella wide and hella deep... and not done yet.

Sure runey could take a LITERAL year and "convert" things to hs2 and probably pick up a bunch of new folks, but that doesn't change the story and that's the actual reason people still buy/dl/play this.

Graphics are so irrelevant to the enjoyment of any game. We can go "wow that's cool", but it will never make us feel anything. Many of us enjoy games with nearly no graphics at all, like dungeons and dragons, and half the game is in your imagination. Other two insanely popular games are Runescape and Minecraft, with graphics older than honey select. Minecraft even tries to look older than it is and finds beauty in its style. Graphics have just never been able to carry a game. Look at Forspoken. I'm pretty sure Harem Hotel will be played more times than Square Enix's newest game.

You should know what you're getting anyway, this is an indie game. I have no choice with which assets I use like indie games on steam (which is beginning to slowly change).

Funnily enough I have actually remade most events before v0.13ish once or twice for the visuals. This is a MASSIVE undertaking that is taking years, but it's still u sing the same engine. I just want the quality to be consistent through the entire game.

 

[ChildofIshtar]

Human children have an immense capacity to understand complex topics.. Ally is a partition of amdroid, their capacity is probably far greater. I have no doubt that these things could be explained to them in a simple and mature way.

 

[Evil13]

Human children have an immense capacity to understand complex topics.. Ally is a partition of amdroid, their capacity is probably far greater. I have no doubt that these things could be explained to them in a simple and mature way.

Oh, you're right, kids can understand things far more than we give them credit for. You can explain any topic them well enough, its just they don't have the life experience or emotional maturity to put that information into context.

And yes, while A11-y was created as a partition from the Gynoid, she is still meant to be her own person and experience things differently from her mother. She has questions about love and sex and death, but she still needs experience and maturity to put that information into context. And that's something that can only be acquired with time. Essentially, kids, A11-y included, need to learn how to walk before they can run.

 

[ChildofIshtar]

Oh, you're right, kids can understand things far more than we give them credit for. You can explain any topic them well enough, its just they don't have the life experience or emotional maturity to put that information into context.

And yes, while A11-y was created as a partition from the Gynoid, she is still meant to be her own person and experience things differently from her mother. She has questions about love and sex and death, but she still needs experience and maturity to put that information into context. And that's something that can only be acquired with time. Essentially, kids, A11-y included, need to learn how to walk before they can run.

So, there is a complicated difference between "lived experience" or wisdom, and knowledge. All wisdom is knowledge, but not all knowledge is wisdom. Some things just can't be fully understood until they're experienced. However, that's the kicker there... fully understood... As a species, we've advanced as far as we have because we are able to impart wisdom as knowledge, and that knowledge prepares the next generation so that they have to spend far less time and energy on the experience phase to create wisdom, allowing them to take from the previous generation and build on it with their own new experiences.

With children, and Ally, we accomplish this, mostly, through repetition. You probably remember watching the same childrens films over and over, or how all the cartoons you watched had the same lessons to teach. Storytellers, throughout history, often retell the same tales over and over.

These conversations would need to be the same. They wouldn't be a one time thing, and they'd likely never be over. They'd be open ended conversations where you made sure that you communicated to the child both that they could come to you and ask about things, and the boundaries you have on that conversation. With this, you slowly build on a foundation of knowledge that expands with experience, which itself happens quicker as they have to figure out less on their own.

So yeah, you're not gonna sit Ally down and tell them what sex is and that's that. You're gonna set some boundaries, let them know some basic information, and encourage them to come to you with questions. That said, while I think Ally will be curious, I doubt she'll have any urge to do more with that information until she has a body that can interact with those desires... Like, a lot of our conception of sex and sexuality is based on hormones and for android, programming. Ally would probably look at sex the same way my Asexual friends often do... like it's this hilarious and alien thing some people do.

As for slavery... you and Android might lay the groundwork, but Ally should probably be encouraged to talk to Lin and Nia about it.

 

[TheDevian]

Human children have an immense capacity to understand complex topics.. Ally is a partition of amdroid, their capacity is probably far greater. I have no doubt that these things could be explained to them in a simple and mature way.

Yeah, kids can understand way more then we give them credit for, it is the parents who have a hard time explaining.

Part of the problem here, is that unlike an organic child, A11-y doesn't have the ability to feel physical pain, and while they are developing empathy well, they are still struggling with some of that, not knowing how other people feel. They did start to feel emotional pain in the last couple stories, and so is starting to have a basis of understanding.

It is hard to explain things like slavery, without empathy. In some ways, A11-y is a (genius) young child and in other ways, they are still a toddler with their understanding of feelings and such.

As for sex, they have almost unfettered access to the internet. I don't really expect Android to think sex is a big enough deal to block that.

Personally, I had access to a medical encyclopedia as a toddler, and my parents started teaching me to read as soon as I was able to get it, so had a basic understanding of it before I started school. It is actually pretty easy to explain the act of sex to children, without getting into the dirty details, this is why we have stories like "the birds and the bees". We can wait until they are older to talk about doing it for fun, special techniques, and what not. Once they have the body for it (and decide what they want it to be).

 

[paulphoenix]

in the last version of the game, it is asking to get 10 cunnilingus with autumn, i cannot figure out where is autumn cunniligus scenes ?
any help thanks

 

[TheDevian]

in the last version of the game, it is asking to get 10 cunnilingus with autumn, i cannot figure out where is autumn cunniligus scenes ?
any help thanks

Once it is unlocked in her story, you can do that by going to her room, it is in her sex menu. But I am not sure what would require it for anything other than fun. Just to get the title/achievement.