skyline92

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I have a suspicion the super compressed version compresses some images far too much, and they just become black. As aolli said, are you on the compressed version?
First i played 0.5.2 normal version and it was ok then i downloaded 0.5.3 compressed and i have some black backgrounds on it.
 

random.person

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Autumn, in my humble opinion, is a prime example of how to write a character that with just a simple defining trait manages to be realistically unsympathetic to other characters and eventually the reader. She's coherent, she even tries not to be a dick to other people but fails due to a personal trait that is not inherently a flaw and could by some even be deemed a virtue.
Actually, I think she has two such traits, religiousness and idealism, which are not flaws per se but become problematic for her interpersonal relationships because of the particular context she's moving in. She has a set of values she believes strongly into, but the world around her either doesn't care for those or flat out condemns them as either naive or paternalistic.
All this of course if we believe her explanation of the suspicious items she keeps in her room.

Man, I do crave for the moment we will whip out the MC's dick all over her.
For academic reasons, of course!
 

aolli

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Autumn, in my humble opinion, is a prime example of how to write a character that with just a simple defining trait manages to be realistically unsympathetic to other characters and eventually the reader. She's coherent, she even tries not to be a dick to other people but fails due to a personal trait that is not inherently a flaw and could by some even be deemed a virtue.
Actually, I think she has two such traits, religiousness and idealism, which are not flaws per se but become problematic for her interpersonal relationships because of the particular context she's moving in. She has a set of values she believes strongly into, but the world around her either doesn't care for those or flat out condemns them as either naive or paternalistic.
All this of course if we believe her explanation of the suspicious items she keeps in her room.

Man, I do crave for the moment we will whip out the MC's dick all over her.
For academic reasons, of course!
Autumn's flaw isn't really her beliefs, it's her naivity. She never really considered that her beliefs could be wrong, or that decent people could disagree with her, mainly because she hasn't had enough interaction with people with other beliefs till now. She's naive, not because she's idealistic, but because she won't entertain other beliefs before condemming them.

Also I want to see her get dicked to, for science, obviously.
 

passerbyR34

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Autumn, in my humble opinion, is a prime example of how to write a character that with just a simple defining trait manages to be realistically unsympathetic to other characters and eventually the reader. She's coherent, she even tries not to be a dick to other people but fails due to a personal trait that is not inherently a flaw and could by some even be deemed a virtue.
Actually, I think she has two such traits, religiousness and idealism, which are not flaws per se but become problematic for her interpersonal relationships because of the particular context she's moving in. She has a set of values she believes strongly into, but the world around her either doesn't care for those or flat out condemns them as either naive or paternalistic.
All this of course if we believe her explanation of the suspicious items she keeps in her room.

Man, I do crave for the moment we will whip out the MC's dick all over her.
For academic reasons, of course!
yep, ppl could say that they dislike or even hate her as much as they want but i doubt they could resist when she's look directly to ur screen like this
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random.person

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Autumn's flaw isn't really her beliefs, it's her naivity. She never really considered that her beliefs could be wrong, or that decent people could disagree with her, mainly because she hasn't had enough interaction with people with other beliefs till now. She's naive, not because she's idealistic, but because she won't entertain other beliefs before condemming them.

Also I want to see her get dicked to, for science, obviously.
I don't agree with this definition of naive. Lin is a correct example of naive, she both doesn't know thus doesn't understand a lot of stuff and she is devoid of any artificiality in her manners; she's also gullible. Autumn on the other hand knows fully well what in her view constitutes sin and that others entertain such ways of life. She knows in the game's country things are that way and the people around her thus might not agree at all with her religious sentiment. But she acts based on that nonetheless because she is that way. She knows yet she can't do otherwise because she's idealistic both in her faith and in her view of elven slavery. She can't accept anything less than her ideal world because she believes in that unadulterated vision.
She also shows manners and formalism, in my opinion, both of which are non spontaneous behaviours. She has a certain degree of artificiality that makes her not a naive character. She is not pragmatic, she is not experienced in dealing with another culture, but that doesn't make her naive.

That said, exhibitionist Autumn in front of her sister at the bar (or vice versa) or riot.
 

aolli

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I don't agree with this definition of naive. Lin is a correct example of naive, she both doesn't know thus doesn't understand a lot of stuff and she is devoid of any artificiality in her manners; she's also gullible. Autumn on the other hand knows fully well what in her view constitutes sin and that others entertain such ways of life. She knows in the game's country things are that way and the people around her thus might not agree at all with her religious sentiment. But she acts based on that nonetheless because she is that way. She knows yet she can't do otherwise because she's idealistic both in her faith and in her view of elven slavery. She can't accept anything less than her ideal world because she believes in that unadulterated vision.
She also shows manners and formalism, in my opinion, both of which are non spontaneous behaviours. She has a certain degree of artificiality that makes her not a naive character. She is not pragmatic, she is not experienced in dealing with another culture, but that doesn't make her naive.

That said, exhibitionist Autumn in front of her sister at the bar (or vice versa) or riot.
I think she holds her beliefs so strongly because she was raised in an environment where she was only exposed to her beliefs and the extreme opposite beliefs. She has shown that she hasn't considered that there are other beliefs on multiple occasions (for example not accepting that lin can be happy in her current role), which is a naive way of thinking.

And I think you mean exhibitionism WITH her sister or riot ;).
 

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I can`t wait to see what happens when she meets Silvia. Better yet make them share a room.

Also wondering what her parents are trying to atone for, perhaps one of their forefathers was one of the prime advocates for elven slavery that caused the whole situation.
 

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I'm not really sure what your points are, but:
  • Decompiling Ren'Py games is really easy with UnRen. I do it all the time.
  • Python is a legitimate high-level scripting language. Ren'Py is built on top of Python, which gives you the ability to do ANYTHING. I say this as a c++ and Python programmer, who knows just a little about Ren'Py.
Since you don't know much about programming I'll correct all of your incorrect statements.

  • Decompiling Ren'Py games is really easy with UnRen. I do it all the time.
Harem Hotel uses the latest version of Ren'Py which is currently 7.1.3. UnRen doesn't support this version of Ren'Py so there are many lines of code that it cannot decompile. You should know this, LOL. I had to manually decompile lines of code throughout the various rpyc files. This is beyond the skills of 99% of players on this site. You cannot recompile Harem Hotel from what Unren gives you, it will not recompile due to too many errors (lines of code it can't decompile).

  • Python is a legitimate high-level scripting language. Ren'Py is built on top of Python, which gives you the ability to do ANYTHING. I say this as a c++ and Python programmer, who knows just a little about Ren'Py.
Yes python is a legitimate high-level scripting language. Just because Ren'Py is built on top of python doesn't mean it was done well or fully featured. Python doesn't allow you to do anything. It is a scripting language, not a programming language. There is a big difference. Name a AAA gaming company who releases PC titles written primarily using python, LOL!

Ren'Py is a terrible platform to code in. Unless you want a pure visual novel style game, authors have to "go around" Ren'Pys many limitations in order to add RPG style elements to their games (primarily using python). It is also very difficult to do structured programming in Ren'Py because it was never designed to be much more than a scene player.

Most AAA title games are written in one of the C languages - C, C++, Visual C++, C sharp, etc. with added language and engine support. There are some gaming engines out there that are developed enough to do a lot of the programming inside of the gaming engine. Good luck creating a good 3D shooter in python, LOL! Name a single AAA title $50 - $60 game and I'll believe you (using python as the main programming language), lol!
 

Avaron1974

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So, in one update, I got to witness an Elf orgy of sorts with some of the hottest Elves i've seen in a sex game .... please dev, let us buy that Drow, she must be mine.

Then my euphoria was shot by the inclusion of mega religious girl that managed to annoy nearly everyone in the hotel and me with my hatred of judgmental religious dickheads.

Then my euphoria was completely neutered by Maria not wanting to be together anymore and she's my second fave behind Kali.

Moral of the story, save the Elf orgies for last in future so I can end on a high note.

Soooo, that Drow, she'd totally make it up to me.
 

random.person

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So, in one update, I got to witness an Elf orgy of sorts with some of the hottest Elves i've seen in a sex game .... please dev, let us buy that Drow, she must be mine.

Then my euphoria was shot by the inclusion of mega religious girl that managed to annoy nearly everyone in the hotel and me with my hatred of judgmental religious dickheads.

Then my euphoria was completely neutered by Maria not wanting to be together anymore and she's my second fave behind Kali.

Moral of the story, save the Elf orgies for last in future so I can end on a high note.

Soooo, that Drow, she'd totally make it up to me.
I'm sure it'll all turn out ok on those other fronts too.

Luckily, I still have to play the elf orgy scene =P
 

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yep, ppl could say that they dislike or even hate her as much as they want but i doubt they could resist when she's look directly to ur screen like this
I think you are both correct, she both naive and deluding herself. She is naive about some things, like sex for example, and she is willfully ignorant (ignoring reality) when it comes to the elves. In both cases, she is in dire need of an education (whether my conjecture on her origin is correct or not).
Due to this, and my odd background, I don't mind her as much, also I can see both of these problems will get corrected as her path progresses. Also, I am just really curious in her story and what more it can tell us about this world and it's past. Not only have I spent a large part of my life studying (and arguing against) world religions, but I am a lore geek. :geek:
But now let's drop the real bomb:
WHO BEST GURL?
For me? Probably Kali, with Maria and Lin a close second. Of course this depends on if we are talking the main girls, or if we include side characters. Juliet, the drow (I am assuming part of her story will be getting her real name as she learns the language and to trust us), Sui, Lucy, and Ashley's mom all interest me too.
I'm sure it'll all turn out ok on those other fronts too.
Luckily, I still have to play the elf orgy scene =P
'Orgy' is a bit of an overstatement, but it's certainly interesting. ;)
 
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rogue886

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So, in one update, I got to witness an Elf orgy of sorts with some of the hottest Elves i've seen in a sex game .... please dev, let us buy that Drow, she must be mine.

Then my euphoria was shot by the inclusion of mega religious girl that managed to annoy nearly everyone in the hotel and me with my hatred of judgmental religious dickheads.

Then my euphoria was completely neutered by Maria not wanting to be together anymore and she's my second fave behind Kali.

Moral of the story, save the Elf orgies for last in future so I can end on a high note.

Soooo, that Drow, she'd totally make it up to me.
 
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