Jerecapra

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Should have ended with a handholding event instead being party crashed by the fairies.
I'm going to have to agree with you on that one. Such a personal event probably should've stayed personal. Still my favorite tho.

Thanks for your reply, by the way.
 

TheCrimsonRevenger

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There may have been a reply to this already but lord knows how many dozens or hundreds of pages back it would be.

I'd love some way to reverse my decision on the Slave/Romance Routes with the three elves. Their Slave routes are getting much attention. Their romance routes, not so much. So give those of us who made the mistake of thinking they'd develope equally a chance to reverse course please :(
 

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There may have been a reply to this already but lord knows how many dozens or hundreds of pages back it would be.

I'd love some way to reverse my decision on the Slave/Romance Routes with the three elves. Their Slave routes are getting much attention. Their romance routes, not so much. So give those of us who made the mistake of thinking they'd develope equally a chance to reverse course please :(
Download Lains mod, she added a cheat to change routes.
 
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Badjourasmix

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There may have been a reply to this already but lord knows how many dozens or hundreds of pages back it would be.

I'd love some way to reverse my decision on the Slave/Romance Routes with the three elves. Their Slave routes are getting much attention. Their romance routes, not so much. So give those of us who made the mistake of thinking they'd develope equally a chance to reverse course please :(
If you download the walkthrough mod there is an option to change routes.
 

Runey

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Is there any advantage to acquiring the "Lustful" trait? Even in the future, I would like to know if it is worth unlocking it.
It's just an achievement right now.

There may have been a reply to this already but lord knows how many dozens or hundreds of pages back it would be.

I'd love some way to reverse my decision on the Slave/Romance Routes with the three elves. Their Slave routes are getting much attention. Their romance routes, not so much. So give those of us who made the mistake of thinking they'd develope equally a chance to reverse course please :(
Download Lains mod, she added a cheat to change routes.
I added the cheat codes in v0.10.2

loveroute_sylvia
slaveroute_nia
etc
 

TheDevian

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For the future only the dev could answer your question. I believe it is like most of the other states, nice to have and shorted the time between release but don't really change a thing - with some named exceptions.

From technical point of view image overlay come to my mind, but how practical this is I don't know. Yet I think it would reduce the overall size.
Sprites are smaller, but depending on how they are used, don't always look at good and are limited as to their use. Scenes like where someone is just standing/sitting around, it could help, but it would be a huge undertaking to redo it all. It saves space, because you can reuse the same background shots, but you don't get proper interaction with the scene, no shadows, the lighting will be wrong, that kind of thing.

You do not want to use a sprite along with a fully rendered scene, that would really look bad, but just having them talking to you would not be hard, just don't show them.

Another issue, is that not everyone progresses everyone at the same rate, and their reactions would be dependent upon their own training level. It would be a lot of work to set up.
Is there any advantage to acquiring the "Lustful" trait? Even in the future, I would like to know if it is worth unlocking it.
It serves no purpose now, other than bragging rights. That said, the entire lust system is new, and will certainly be expanded in the future, assuming that it is popular. We are just starting to see where it could lead, and what potential it could have.
 

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It serves no purpose now, other than bragging rights. That said, the entire lust system is new, and will certainly be expanded in the future, assuming that it is popular. We are just starting to see where it could lead, and what potential it could have.
The only problem I see with the system at the moment is that I find the best lust scenes are the ones that happen at the level 6 mark. Even though the level 9 scenes are "controlled" by the girl, I'd like to see them expanded somehow kinda like how the 6 ones are.
 

ankhtar

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I tried the slave routes and I didn't like them. I would rather wait until runey adds content to the love routes. It doesn't feel right to try to help them finding a way to end slavery and then enslave them.
You're not alone. I'm somewhat curious about the scenes/dialogue but I can't even bring myself to start the route. The thought of giving them a literal sanctuary from all the garbage they've been through (brief as it may be for them because human lifespan), only to end up doing a complete 180º and treating them just like everyone else always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
 

TheDevian

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The only problem I see with the system at the moment is that I find the best lust scenes are the ones that happen at the level 6 mark. Even though the level 9 scenes are "controlled" by the girl, I'd like to see them expanded somehow kinda like how the 6 ones are.
I agree. For me, the main point of unlocking the ***Lustful*** trait, was so that I could finally do the level 6 events and not feel guilty. I still think that if we got a 'point' of Lustful every time any of those events occur is the way to fix that, and it would put it more in line with the other similar events. This way, if you wait until 9 points, you get 3 tics in the Lustful meter, which would be the same as if you did the 3 point event 3 times. It would make the whole system less grindy too.

I am having a similar problem with Autumn's shower events, at this rate it will take at least a year in game to get her ***Paizuri*** filled, especially when one of the lust events takes up my whole morning, and miss my chance that week.
You're not alone. I'm somewhat curious about the scenes/dialogue but I can't even bring myself to start the route. The thought of giving them a literal sanctuary from all the garbage they've been through (brief as it may be for them because human lifespan), only to end up doing a complete 180º and treating them just like everyone else always leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Yup, me three. Even if I feel like they both deserve some punishment for the way they treated me, but I also want to show them that not all humans are assholes. lol
 

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Sprites are smaller, but depending on how they are used, don't always look at good and are limited as to their use. Scenes like where someone is just standing/sitting around, it could help, but it would be a huge undertaking to redo it all. It saves space, because you can reuse the same background shots, but you don't get proper interaction with the scene, no shadows, the lighting will be wrong, that kind of thing.

You do not want to use a sprite along with a fully rendered scene, that would really look bad, but just having them talking to you would not be hard, just don't show them.

Another issue, is that not everyone progresses everyone at the same rate, and their reactions would be dependent upon their own training level. It would be a lot of work to set up.
You're right. Image overlays is no silver bullet and sometimes create more problems than it solve. And it needs a lot of time to do them right.

Still even if all the image would been normal created, diff images, like what all the video codec do would also help. Although I would not propose this as this would need a lot of work. Most likely it could be, at least to some degree automated, but it would most likely need a complet overhaul of the game. I would rather download the 70 GB or what it is in the futurer than download a slight smaller full game and know that Runey would have taken hours that could been speed elsewhere. It would only make sense that someone other than Runey would do that and give the whole setup than back to Runey - and don't even look at me, I'm not the droid you looking for.:p

Simple saying I have no idea how to do an automatic compare of two image and find similar ones. And this for over 16 thousend would mean a hell lot of compares (more than 5.118753666 E+60319), so some variante of pre sort would be necessary....
No, I'm definitively not the droid you looking for.:ROFLMAO:

So, Runey, any news for this Android dilemma? One aspect that come to my mind is one my mobil I have an map app and offline maps. The app itself is only 158 MB yet my offline maps are 30 GB.
 
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I have a suggestion...

I was replaying the game and the kidnapping scene is very confusing. There is voice 1,2 and 3.
While the MC cannot see anything, it seems that:

Voice 1 belongs to Sui
Voice 2 belongs to Ann
Voice 3 belongs to Sylvia


When they speak personally with the MC after he wakes up, the voices change again to:

Voice 1 belongs to Sylvia (before it was Sui)
Voice 2 belongs to Ann
Voice 3 belongs to Sui (before it was Sylvia).


In the end, I didn't understand what each one stood for. My suggestion is, if possible, to make it easier to identify voices.

### EDIT ###

After many attempts I understood.

Voice 1 belongs to DUSK (Sui)
Voice 2 belongs to MIDNIGHT (Ann)
Voice 3 belongs to DAWN (Sylvia)

I don't know if anyone else had difficulty in that part or if I was just too stupid.
 
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Damn, not even an hour, and out of likes again...
You're right. Image overlays is no silver bullet and sometimes create more problems than it solve. And it needs a lot of time to do them right.

Still even if all the image would been normal created, diff images, like what all the video codec do would also help. Although I would not propose this as this would need a lot of work. Most likely it could be, at least to some degree automated, but it would most likely need a complet overhaul of the game. I would rather download the 70 GB or what it is in the futurer than download a slight smaller full game and know that Runey would have taken hours that could been speed elsewhere. It would only make sense that someone other than Runey would do that and give the whole setup than back to Runey - and don't even look at me, I'm not the droid you looking for.:p

Simple saying I have no idea how to do an automatic compare of two image and find similar ones. And this for over 16 thousend would mean a hell lot of compares (more than 5.118753666 E+60319), so some variante of pre sort would be necessary....
No, I'm definitively not the droid you looking for.:ROFLMAO:

So, Runey, any news for this Android dilemma? One aspect that come to my mind is one my mobil I have an map app and offline maps. The app itself is only 158 MB yet my offline maps are 30 GB.
If you are talking about converting images to lower quality, that can be automated, but if you mean reworking all the scenes that could be, and making sprites and all that, no, that would have to be done manually.

As for the Android version, before long, it will have to either be broken up, or they will need a serious reduction in the quality and size of the images, like the crunched versions people make. It is going to be a big problem one of these days soon. Makes me glad I don't use my phone for porn and I have a PC in my room. XD
 

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If i could add one thing to the game it would be more of maria edging lin or maybe other residents. Twas hotter then the hot springs.
 
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If i could add one thing to the game it would be more of maria edging lin or maybe other residents. Twas hotter then the hot springs.
Don't give Maria any ideas. The last thing we need is her going around to all of the girls and increasing their lust levels behind our backs. Many of us wouldn't survive. :ROFLMAO:
 

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If you are talking about converting images to lower quality, that can be automated, but if you mean reworking all the scenes that could be, and making sprites and all that, no, that would have to be done manually.
No, I don't mean either of them. As I said manually work at this current status the game is a workload no one is willing to take.
And is is obviously that you can only shrink a image to some degree, before we could switch back to 8bit pixel art.:LOL:

What I mean is to automaticly comb through all over 16000 images and indexing between "I-frames" and "P-frames" as every video codec do it. ( )
So you diff between two similar images and insted of e.g. have 10 "I-images" have 1 "I-image" and 9 "P-image". Could be automated, I'm certained here, but as stated a pre sorting would be needed othwise you compare every image to all the others ones...

Also I don't mean sprite, I mean layers ( ) although I think we both have mean the same.
As for the Android version, before long, it will have to either be broken up, or they will need a serious reduction in the quality and size of the images, like the crunched versions people make. It is going to be a big problem one of these days soon. Makes me glad I don't use my phone for porn and I have a PC in my room. XD
Or Google change something and allow for bigger apps, yet I'm sure this will only delay inevitable. Thus I think the only solution that would work, even long term, is to split the programm and the data.
You can never have enough space, each console I have I had change the internal disc to something much bigger...:ROFLMAO:
Don't give Maria any ideas. The last thing we need is her going around to all of the girls and increasing their lust levels behind our backs. Many of us wouldn't survive. :ROFLMAO:
No, Maria wouldn't do that, I'm sure, at least not alone.:whistle:
 
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Jerecapra

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If you are talking about converting images to lower quality, that can be automated, but if you mean reworking all the scenes that could be, and making sprites and all that, no, that would have to be done manually.
No, I don't mean either of them. As I said manually work at this current status the game is a workload no one is willing to take.
And is is obviously that you can only shrink a image to some degree, before we could switch back to 8bit pixel art.:LOL:

What I mean is to automaticly comb through all over 16000 images and indexing between "I-frames" and "P-frames" as every video codec do it. ( )
So you diff between two similar images and insted of e.g. have 10 "I-images" have 1 "I-image" and 9 "P-image". Could be automated, I'm certained here, but as stated a pre sorting would be needed othwise you compare every image to all the others ones...

Also I don't mean sprite, I mean layers ( ) although I think we both have mean the same.
I think something like this could be done to significantly reduce the game size in terms of optimizing animations. With a simple(ish) python script you could compare the frames of a particular animation, and get which areas of the images remain unchanged throughout. You could filter those areas from every frame (except the first one, so you can use it as background) and make them transparent.

Then, you could set the first frame of the animation as "background" and cycle normally to get the animation. So in theory, it could work. In practice, I don't know. As said above, there are around 16k images. A lot of them are for animations, and luckily they are named appropiately so that images of the same animation are next to each other. Tweaks in the script would be needed set the first frame as background. I'm sure there are other (multiple) complications that would make this a rather hard thing to do.

From a quick search, this could be done just with numpy and pillow. The caveat is that running the script would probably be kind of slow without proper optimizations and such.
 
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