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c3p0

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And if he would, I would happily download and save every version of it.
Perhaps I would even do patchs for it. Yet, depend if I find a file hoster who could do that and who I want to use. And I would need to repartition my disc - and most likely need a faster PC than this coffee machine. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Vriken

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Ok so.

A lot of misconceptions about the real world are being used as parallels for this setting.

Did you know colonial era people had no idea the diseases they had would spread like they did?
Did you know that any agrarian society domesticates animals if they can?
Domesticating animals en masse creates the varying plagues that we are all used to.
Tuberculosis, small pox, typhoid, etc...
Having people live in close proximity to animals causes us to eventually contract their diseases.
STATED HOW YOU HAVE IT COMMON ELVES WOULD HAVE JUST AS DEADLY DISEASES AS THE HUMANS.
The only reason that colonial era "new world" relations ended the way they did is that many of the nations and tribes of the Americas was due to lack of domesticatable large sized work/ food animals which would allow for large scale development.

There were a few exceptions to this such as the Mayans which used mass slave labor from capturing nearby tribes and the Incas who had some help in the form of Alpacas and Llamas.
But both of those animals are surly and their ability to be used as beasts of burden is laughable when you compare them to the capabilities of horses and donkeys.

But seeing how you have the elves as a well developed multi-city agrarian society it would be safe to assume they have some form of domesticated beast of burden capable of supporting that society.

WHICH WOULD CAUSE PLAGUES TO THE HUMANS WITH NO IMMUNITY TO SAID DISEASES.
The way you set up the world would require the elves to have literal magic. But you suggest that magic is simply folklore in this world (except when it comes to faeries for some reason)
 
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WHICH WOULD CAUSE PLAGUES TO THE HUMANS WITH NO IMMUNITY TO SAID DISEASES.
...unless they had both domesticated (or at least been around) more or less the same animals.

Realistically, there would be some differences, as in any case where animals are separated by distance and time, but they could have been similar enough to not be that much of a problem. We don't really know that much about the fauna.
 
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...unless they had both domesticated more or less the same animals.

Realistically, there would be some differences, as in any case where animals are separated by distance and time, but they could have been similar enough to not be that much of a problem. We don't really know that much about the fauna.
Or they could be simple killed by the disease the first explorer brought here. After the Europe newfound America the Americas suffer under the disease the European had brought with them.
Same goes for all the plants and animals they brought with them, knowingly or unknowingly.

Although I don't know if Runey have drawn his world in regard to this topic or has used the writer freedom and didn't go into too much details here.
 
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Or they could be simple killed by the disease the first explorer brought here. After the Europe newfound America the Americas suffer under the disease the European had brought with them.
Same goes for all the plants and animals they bring with them, knowingly or unknowingly.

Although I don't know if Runey have drawn his world in regard to this topic or has used the writer freedom and didn't go into too much details here.
Exactly, there could have been earlier explorers, on more primitive 'boats', that explored other lands long before. For example, in the real world, the Vikings discovered the 'new world' long before the rest of the east, and animals have been known to float across the ocean on floating piles of flora and refuse.
 
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I think the idea was that her mother didn't have the same perceptions of Ashley's childhood as Ashley did. Given her Dad wasn't working it's likely her mother had little involvement with her day to day life and probably only heard her husband's side of things. Not to mention that over time it's probable that she became bitter about her life in general and tended to lash out at Ashley, blaming her for the shitty predicament her own life had become.

In other words I think there is a really good chance that she didn't understand or couldn't conceive why Ashley would want to leave that situation without some outside coercion.

I'm also betting that Ashley never defied her before. If that's the case, that could also lead to an incredulous scenario in her mother's mind.
Now that you mention it, it does seem like from what I remember that Ashley's father was the only one of two parents who truly treated her like shit. Perhaps Runey might have plans to get her more involved with the MC and Ashley as a way of her reconciling her bond with her only child. After all we did get to see her face but not the father's. That alone may hint on at least her showing up again considering their last exchange of words implied she knew nothing about her husband's horrendous treatment to her daughter. The MC might be the key to reforming that mother/daughter bond and possibly get her interested in MC enough to leave that scumbag excuse of a man.
 
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To be honest, I'm struggling to understand your point. Especially considering you are making a lot of - to the best of my knowledge - questionable assertions.

Hell, I could summarize my objection as "are you sure it wasn't power difference, courtesy of technological advancement, between the colonists and indigenous populations that drove the interactions into the historical 'you have I want and you get no say in it'" paradigm?
A lot of misconceptions about the real world are being used as parallels for this setting.
Myeah... except most of the deadliest historical diseases are established to have emerged in humans (and often are not capable of cross-species transmission). I think measles is the exception in that it has animal origin, and tuberculosis is supposed to have propagated cross-continent through animals, but that's pretty much the exception rather than norm based on the historical information that we do have.

It's only pretty recently that we have had a whole host of these crop up (like HIV, the older SARS and now COVID), and it may very well be related to the basic premise of epidemiology - the more densly populated a sample area, the more likely you're to see emergence and spread of any new pathogen, whatever its origin.
STATED HOW YOU HAVE IT COMMON ELVES WOULD HAVE JUST AS DEADLY DISEASES AS THE HUMANS.
Maybe, maybe not. If Runey's elves lived in isolated communities (which was mostly the case for Native American tribes), even if some deadly new disease emerged it may not have had the opportunity to spread to be present in their population. Again, basic rule of epidemiology - the fewer people around, and the greater the distance between their societal clusters, the less likely you're to see anything deadly emerge in the first place, or successfully hang around.

Also, I'm pretty sure the argument over whether syphilis originated in Americas or not hasn't been concluded, and the only thing we do know is that the age of colonization spurred its mass-spread in Ye Olde World - and that those societies had greater capacity to absorb any losses from it and continue their advancement than any less-developed tribal culture.
The only reason that colonial era "new world" relations ended the way they did is that many of the nations and tribes of the Americas was due to lack of domesticatable large sized work/ food animals which would allow for large scale development.
Maybe I'm missing some point here, but on its own this claim is laughably false. European colonists, despite their lower numbers (this goes doubly for Cortes and his fellows, who mostly relied on indigenuous tribal 'allies' - that they frequently screwed over right after anyway - in their conquests and themselves constituted only the "Schwerpunkt force"), were capable of leveraging their techological advantage (along with incomparably more superior support base in the shape of Old World countries that always could replace manpower and materiel losses) to overpower any attempts self-determination of the natives in face of the invading foreigners.
WHICH WOULD CAUSE PLAGUES TO THE HUMANS WITH NO IMMUNITY TO SAID DISEASES.
And yet again I'll point you to basically the whole world (not just the Americas) as an example of indigenuous diseases doing diddly to stop European colonialism. In situations where cross-species transmission isn't even a requirement, though the fact that in Runey's universe interbreeding is possible basically makes it clear humans and elves aren't even - biologically speaking - distinct species. Unless it's magic, or just something Runey didn't really think too much about ;)
The way you set up the world would require the elves to have literal magic.
Obviously disagree, and I think your analysis is flawed not to support that conclusion even assuming a lot of lenience toward personal interpretation of Runey's intended world-building.

Edit: You know... it just struck me that, hundreds and hundreds of pages of overanalysis - in this thread alone - later, Runey is probably sitting somewhere in the corner going, "I just wanted to make a porn game, man..."
 
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For statistic purpose:
  • Harem_Hotel-v0.9.2-pc.zip 4'518'836 KB
  • Harem_Hotel-v0.10-pc.zip 5'446'077 KB
  • Harem_Hotel-v0.10.1-pc.zip 5'166'723 KB
  • Harem_Hotel-v0.10.2-pc.zip 5'116'649 KB
  • Harem_Hotel-v0.11-pc.zip 5'904'993 KB
  • Harem_Hotel-v0.11.1-pc.zip 5'905'411 KB
  • Harem_Hotel-v0.11.2-pc.zip 5'905'119 KB
So, +770 MB for 0.11.2 vs. 0.10.2 and + 584 MB for 0.10.2 vs. 0.9.2, this doesn't look, at least for me, as the game size suddenly explode, more like a constant increase of it. Also I would be curisous about the origin filte size in compare.
Runey, do you have the numbers?
I should clarify that I pretty much only download compressed versions, so those two versions/sizes I quoted were compressed versions found here on F95 at some point after the official version was posted. Hence my confusion when I've seen posts in both threads saying that the official version *is* compressed and can't really be compressed more (not saying anything about you; just that I'm confused how that can be the case when my most recently-downloaded versions were *way* smaller than the official version).
 

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i want to know the answer about this, and before someone might comment "use search or check older post" i already did that for atleast 20 previous pages all i read is thet all of them is recommending lain's mod or something like that, i want to know if there's a way to change your elf slavery to love choice (vise versa) in Runey's harem hotel... thanks in advance
 

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My computer/internet connection are basically a potato with a string attached. So for me downgrading the pictures until they are jpegged to death is optimal. :D

If I learned anything from viewing porn for almost 20 years its that yall really need to stop viewing porn and upgrade your computers, and internet.
 

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To be honest, I'm struggling to understand your point. Especially considering you are making a lot of - to the best of my knowledge - questionable assertions.

Hell, I could summarize my objection as "are you sure it wasn't power difference, courtesy of technological advancement, between the colonists and indigenous populations that drove the interactions into the historical 'you have I want and you get no say in it'" paradigm?
Myeah... except most of the deadliest historical diseases are established to have emerged in humans (and often are not capable of cross-species transmission). I think measles is the exception in that it has animal origin, and tuberculosis is supposed to have propagated cross-continent through animals, but that's pretty much the exception rather than norm based on the historical information that we do have.

It's only pretty recently that we have had a whole host of these crop up (like HIV, the older SARS and now COVID), and it may very well be related to the basic premise of epidemiology - the more densly populated a sample area, the more likely you're to see emergence and spread of any new pathogen, whatever its origin.
Maybe, maybe not. If Runey's elves lived in isolated communities (which was mostly the case for Native American tribes), even if some deadly new disease emerged it may not have had the opportunity to spread to be present in their population. Again, basic rule of epidemiology - the fewer people around, and the greater the distance between their societal clusters, the less likely you're to see anything deadly emerge in the first place, or successfully hang around.

Also, I'm pretty sure the argument over whether syphilis originated in Americas or not hasn't been concluded, and the only thing we do know is that the age of colonization spurred its mass-spread in Ye Olde World - and that those societies had greater capacity to absorb any losses from it and continue their advancement than any less-developed tribal culture.
Maybe I'm missing some point here, but on its own this claim is laughably false. European colonists, despite their lower numbers (this goes doubly for Cortes and his fellows, who mostly relied on indigenuous tribal 'allies' - that they frequently screwed over right after anyway - in their conquests and themselves constituted only the "Schwerpunkt force"), were capable of leveraging their techological advantage (along with incomparably more superior support base in the shape of Old World countries that always could replace manpower and materiel losses) to overpower any attempts self-determination of the natives in face of the invading foreigners.
And yet again I'll point you to basically the whole world (not just the Americas) as an example of indigenuous diseases doing diddly to stop European colonialism. In situations where cross-species transmission isn't even a requirement, though the fact that in Runey's universe interbreeding is possible basically makes it clear humans and elves aren't even - biologically speaking - distinct species. Unless it's magic, or just something Runey didn't really think too much about ;)
Obviously disagree, and I think your analysis is flawed not to support that conclusion even assuming a lot of lenience toward personal interpretation of Runey's intended world-building.

Edit: You know... it just struck me that, hundreds and hundreds of pages of overanalysis - in this thread alone - later, Runey is probably sitting somewhere in the corner going, "I just wanted to make a porn game, man..."
I second that. If I wanted to reread Guns Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond again, I would do so. I'm here for the games.
 
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so does loading old saves not fully work? I spent forever trying to find the new gallery scenes and such and only got 5 or 6 of them as far as I can tell nothing else I can do now
 

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Quick questions
Is there content for love path?
If yes, How do I change from slavery to love oath?
Haven't played this update yet. But try entering this code on your pc in MC bedroom.

slaveroute_Nia
loveroute_Nia

Not sure if it still work on this update tho. Last I checked it only works on Nia and Sylvia. Not Ann tho.
 
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