VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.1] [Runey]

[Runey]

I really love this game and have been following it since the early releases. That being said, i am a bit sad about the trajectory of the plot lately. The whole freeing the elves stuff does nothing for me. Have i missed some player choices to go in a different direction here, or is it just what it is?

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I don't understand what you mean when you say "freeing the elves stuff". Do you mean Nia's storyline? She doesn't free slaves, she gives them to better masters. Or are you talking about Lin's storyline? No elves have been freed there either. It's actually not very possible with how the systems work.

In any case, those are just 2 out of the 18 characters with storylines.

 

[GraveXMachina]

To think we have people asking for Autumn sex stuff while Sylvia keep staring at that damn TV doing nothing 24/7
At least we can see her sometimes in the kitchen in all her maid outfit glory...

Well...she does have one sex scene...just not with the MC.

 

[mrttao]

I don't understand what you mean when you say "freeing the elves stuff". Do you mean Nia's storyline? She doesn't free slaves, she gives them to better masters. Or are you talking about Lin's storyline? No elves have been freed there either. It's actually not very possible with how the systems work.

A story does not need to actually successfully free elves to be about freeing the elves.
Especially if the story is not yet complete.

And all the storylines seem to converge into the elf liberation movement
You should try replaying your own game from the beginning. There is drastic tonal shift that occurred over the years of development, and towards the end all you seem to be doing with all the characters is pursuing Social Justice. Game also got a lot darker

It is even lampshaded by some of the characters explicitly pointing out how Lin did a 180 from her "go away and stop bothering me, I love being a slave to Master" to "must join the fight to end slavery"

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So of the 8 main girls, 5 got their story taken over by elf liberation

 

[Milkman69]

Personally I don't mind the elf liberation and social justice stuff. But yeah you can't deny that it's the dominant narrative for most of the girl's story lines in one way or another. But hey the premise of elves being slaves and society being built upon that slave labor is pretty hard to escape. When slavery is a ubiquitous part of everyday life then slavery is gonna end up being a ubiquitous part of stories told within the setting.

The only reason why Felicity and Emma haven't gotten wrapped into the elf liberation narrative is that currently they lack any wealth, influence, or drive to make a meaningful difference. The last bit will likely change if they continue getting close to Lin and grow to appreciate her as a person.

But yeah with Lin being part of the harem and all the harem girls interacting with each other and developing relationships amongst themselves. Then one girls struggles eventually become the entire harem's struggles. So yeah the elf slavery thing is a big deal that becomes relevant to the entire harem give that Lin is a core member.

 

[Runey]

A story does not need to actually successfully free elves to be about freeing the elves.
Especially if the story is not yet complete.

And all the storylines seem to converge into the elf liberation movement
You should try replaying your own game from the beginning. There is drastic tonal shift that occurred over the years of development, and towards the end all you seem to be doing with all the characters is pursuing Social Justice. Game also got a lot darker

It is even lampshaded by some of the characters explicitly pointing out how Lin did a 180 from her "go away and stop bothering me, I love being a slave to Master" to "must join the fight to end slavery"

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So of the 8 main girls, 5 got their story taken over by elf liberation

You aren't being so subtle about your political biases, are you?

Harem Hotel isn't a power tripping fantasy fuckathon game, it has a more serious story. Each character has their own theme, and many of them do involve elves. If being nice to them and wanting they have a better life is SJW elf liberation shit to you, well I didn't make this game for you.

 

[Shadesishere]

Runey, you know you've written pure gold when the userbase starts talking about the lore/story with the same fervor as Star Wars, Star Trek, Game of Thrones or Marvel fans, digging into deeper meanings about every little thing, discussing this or that's character's dialogue/actions in xyz context...

Good Job! ever thought about professional writing?

 

[Runey]

Runey, you know you've written pure gold when the userbase starts talking about the lore/story with the same fervor as Star Wars, Star Trek, Game of Thrones or Marvel fans, digging into deeper meanings about every little thing, discussing this or that's character's dialogue/actions in xyz context...

Good Job! ever thought about professional writing?

Thanks Yeah, I'd like to write more professionally in the future.

 

[Parasız paramedik]

Pregnacy , 3D

 

[Uthuriel]

Pregnacy , 3D

Bacon, Eggs

 

[c3p0]

Bacon, Eggs

Headpats, Hugs, burned Pizza, making a full sentenced than can anyone understand.

 

[WhitePolarFoxxx]

Bacon, Eggs

Tycoon, Race sim

 

[beh123234]

er body is looking like a teenager's body

My dude, have you ever seen a teenager? That's not what you think of when you think of a teenager...do you?

 

[WigglyWorld84]

Good Job! ever thought about professional writing?

Well, he IS making money off his writing.

It's more of a feat for someone to go out and just do it on their own, in my opinion.

(Not trying to nit-pick; I do agree with your sentiment!)

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

Headpats, Hugs, burned Pizza, making a full sentenced than can anyone understand.

 

[DigDug69]

You aren't being so subtle about your political biases, are you?

Harem Hotel isn't a power tripping fantasy fuckathon game, it has a more serious story. Each character has their own theme, and many of them do involve elves. If being nice to them and wanting they have a better life is SJW elf liberation shit to you, well I didn't make this game for you.

I feel for you on this one.
I spend time replying to comments on civil war you tube videos, and I hear that social justice warrior crap all of the time from people who try to claim that the blacks were better off as slaves.

That and "woke", If woke means opening my mind up to new ideas, and learning the truth through researching all of the facts, then I am guilty as charged.
A closed mind is a terrible thing, and it ultimately leads to complete stupidity.

 

[mrttao]

You aren't being so subtle about your political biases, are you?

Harem Hotel isn't a power tripping fantasy fuckathon game, it has a more serious story. Each character has their own theme, and many of them do involve elves. If being nice to them and wanting they have a better life is SJW elf liberation shit to you, well I didn't make this game for you.

First you claim it does not exist, then when explicit examples are given of it existing you switch gears into personal attack.
A pattern I have seen you repeatedly do over the past few days with multiple people.

If being nice to them and wanting they have a better life is SJW elf liberation shit to you

1. you are mixing up different posters. I am the one who replied to you when you feigned utter and total ignorance about the existence of elf liberation in your game.
Not the initial posters who told you they are tired of it. I actually never specified that I am tired of it, just that there was a tonal shift.

2. You are literally the only one who said "SJW elf liberation shit".

That being said, i am a bit sad about the trajectory of the plot lately. The whole freeing the elves stuff does nothing for me.

And all the storylines seem to converge into the elf liberation movement

neither of us said "elf liberation shit", you did. This is called a strawman
You are blatantly lying about what my post said to paint me into some sort of "enemy".
While combining multiple logical fallacies of strawman, ad hominem, appeal to absurdity, virtue signaling, appeal to ridicule, no true scotsman, and probably several more. I am genuinely impressed at just how many logical fallacies you can cram together in a singular post.

Why are you so thin skinned about it?
What compels you to pick fights with multiple different posters every day and try to twist their words into some sort of villainy?
What compels you to try and hide the contents of your creation?

 

[Jjay08]

First you claim it does not exist, then when explicit examples are given of it existing you switch gears into personal attack.
A pattern I have seen you repeatedly do over the past few days with multiple people.

1. you are mixing up different posters. I am the one who replied to you when you feigned utter and total ignorance about the existence of elf liberation in your game.
Not the initial posters who told you they are tired of it. I actually never specified that I am tired of it, just that there was a tonal shift.

2. You are literally the only one who said "SJW elf liberation shit".


neither of us said "elf liberation shit", you did. This is called a strawman
You are blatantly lying about what my post said to paint me into some sort of "enemy".
While combining multiple logical fallacies of strawman, ad hominem, appeal to absurdity, virtue signaling, appeal to ridicule, no true scotsman, and probably several more. I am genuinely impressed at just how many logical fallacies you can cram together in a singular post.

Why are you so thin skinned about it?
What compels you to pick fights with multiple different posters every day and try to twist their words into some sort of villainy?
What compels you to try and hide the contents of your creation?

can we not...

 

[Runey]

First you claim it does not exist, then when explicit examples are given of it existing you switch gears into personal attack.
A pattern I have seen you repeatedly do over the past few days with multiple people.

1. you are mixing up different posters. I am the one who replied to you when you feigned utter and total ignorance about the existence of elf liberation in your game.
Not the initial posters who told you they are tired of it. I actually never specified that I am tired of it, just that there was a tonal shift.

2. You are literally the only one who said "SJW elf liberation shit".


neither of us said "elf liberation shit", you did. This is called a strawman
You are blatantly lying about what my post said to paint me into some sort of "enemy".
While combining multiple logical fallacies of strawman, ad hominem, appeal to absurdity, virtue signaling, appeal to ridicule, no true scotsman, and probably several more. I am genuinely impressed at just how many logical fallacies you can cram together in a singular post.

Why are you so thin skinned about it?
What compels you to pick fights with multiple different posters every day and try to twist their words into some sort of villainy?
What compels you to try and hide the contents of your creation?

Holy shit, wtf. Dude has lost it

 

[Runey]

Let's try to get things back on track and enjoyable...

Question
What would you guys like to see focused on in v0.16?

 

[nijam66]

I don't understand what you mean when you say "freeing the elves stuff". Do you mean Nia's storyline? She doesn't free slaves, she gives them to better masters. Or are you talking about Lin's storyline? No elves have been freed there either. It's actually not very possible with how the systems work.

In any case, those are just 2 out of the 18 characters with storylines.

First off: sorry for spawning this overblown controversy in the comments, still love the game and appreciate all your hard work.

Yes i was referring to those two storylines. Lins story kind of feels like the "main" story at least for me. And with this little resistance outpost in the back, the main character kind of acts the opposite of what i would have done in that setting.

But i think my question about player choice was implicitly answered.

And guys let's chill out.