VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.1] [Runey]

[TigerWolfe]

Yeah, I used to be able to draw a hand when that was all I was doing, but putting one on a person is another story.

That said, I do wish people would stop with this AI obsession, the art is just ...gross, and way too 'samey'. Even if you ignore the hands and other things it can't do, it's just wrong. Like, look at the lips (on the ones that have them), they were mostly the same, and only looked decent on a couple of them.
Don't get me wrong, it has its uses, but the marked it already over-saturated with it, and people are losing their jobs over it.

I can't say I would want to play a game that uses it for the art, the more I see of it, the less I like it.

Capitalism is gonna capitalize and any advancement that makes something more accessible to the masses, will be used to save the board a few bucks at the expense of the final product and people in general.

AI art is awesome if you can't art or don't know an artist or can't afford one yet, and have a story you want to tell.

The McCorporateGameAndArt studios of the world will be sure to make us all hate it though as they replace all their amazing in house talent for pennies on the dollar.

 

[TheDevian]

Capitalism is gonna capitalize and any advancement that makes something more accessible to the masses, will be used to save the board a few bucks at the expense of the final product and people in general.

AI art is awesome if you can't art or don't know an artist or can't afford one yet, and have a story you want to tell.

The McCorporateGameAndArt studios of the world will be sure to make us all hate it though as they replace all their amazing in house talent for pennies on the dollar.

No, it's broken and inconsistent, and anyone can use the Illusion games or whatever to make art, it just takes some practice.

 

[Strike-10]

You have to consider that I took the images from the game files. These were 400x400 low res icon images.
I upscaled these and then ran some standart stable diffusion converter over them.
I also converted these as a batch. So no afterward editing.
Just used "smile" and "looking at viewer" promts.

It all takes just a couple of minutes.
For that little effort, the results are great, imho.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to show of or something. I just find it fascinating how good it works and how fast this can be done, with this little effort.

Ya … I figured it was a first pass down and dirty proof of feasibility exercise.

I said 60%-80% were improved.
Which is a huge amount.

Sorry if you took the positive feedback as a neg.
I figured that with my upvotes and the improved comment I could share where I saw that the AI “improvement” … wasn’t.

Specifically if Ash looses her sometimes crazy eyes. (Which was DigDug69’s comment)
Also the AI seem to add bunny teeth when it sees bunny ears.
And OFC the hands but whatever.
Consistency could also be an issue … don’t want to have 12 “different” versions of a character.

It raises lots of great possibilities… and it will only get better with time.

I tend to try and identify the broken parts to correct or to maintain consistency on a project.

 

[TigerWolfe]

No, it's broken and inconsistent, and anyone can use the Illusion games or whatever to make art, it just takes some practice.

Tech has to be used to get better. And if koikatsu isn't the look you're going for, it's not gonna work... Also not everyone has infinite time to learn things.

You don't have to like ai art, but it does expand the field of creators (I see this as a good).
It will also be abused by the same people who've abused every productivity advancement we've had since the industrial revolution (I see this as a bad).

 

[TheDevian]

Tech has to be used to get better. And if koikatsu isn't the look you're going for, it's not gonna work... Also not everyone has infinite time to learn things.

You don't have to like ai art, but it does expand the field of creators (I see this as a good).
It will also be abused by the same people who've abused every productivity advancement we've had since the industrial revolution (I see this as a bad).

Koikatu, HS, HS2, Daz, Blender, etc... Any look you want, you can get with minimal to some skill.

No, it makes people with no skills, think that they can do the same things that people who have trained their whole lives can do. All of whom will be eliminated because some pc can do their job, and who cares if it is accurate (it doesn't just fuck up fingers, it also fucks up math, facts, grammar, and anything else).

But we are way the fuck off topic for this thread, so here's Para-Para Lin.

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[DigDug69]

Koikatu, HS, HS2, Daz, Blender, etc... Any look you want, you can get with minimal to some skill.

No, it makes people with no skills, think that they can do the same things that people who have trained their whole lives can do. All of whom will be eliminated because some pc can do their job, and who cares if it is accurate (it doesn't just fuck up fingers, it also fucks up math, facts, grammar, and anything else).

But we are way the fuck off topic for this thread, so here's Para-Para Lin.

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Lin needs a hula hoop.

 

[TheDevian]

Made another Ashley headpat one, if anyone wants it.

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[Strike-10]

…
That said, I do wish people would stop with this AI obsession

It‘s new so ofc it will be “the rage”.

…
Don't get me wrong, it has its uses, but the marked it already over-saturated with it, and people are losing their jobs over it.

I can't say I would want to play a game that uses it for the art, the more I see of it, the less I like it.

I agree it has its shortcomings and it tends to make everything look the same.

But that happens IRL too … see California.

My thoughts are that it will eventually just be another tool for professionals.

But OFC you will always see shortcut takers using the tool to push out subpar offerings or create cheap products (by cutting out people typically)

It’s the Fast/Cheap/Good pick TWO triangle
AGAIN.

Thanks for Lin!

 

[DigDug69]

My one and only comment, no replies needed on the subject of AI.
It's just for general knowledge.
It demonstrates that AI is very very far away from being reliable.

You must be registered to see the links

In this case, ChatGPT just flat out made stuff up that sounded good, but was bogus as hell.
Now, we need to return Lin back to her original upright position, and resume patting her head.

 

[Deleted member 217976]

Ya … I figured it was a first pass down and dirty proof of feasibility exercise.

I said 60%-80% were improved.
Which is a huge amount.

Sorry if you took the positive feedback as a neg.
I figured that with my upvotes and the improved comment I could share where I saw that the AI “improvement” … wasn’t.

Specifically if Ash looses her sometimes crazy eyes. (Which was DigDug69’s comment)
Also the AI seem to add bunny teeth when it sees bunny ears.
And OFC the hands but whatever.
Consistency could also be an issue … don’t want to have 12 “different” versions of a character.

It raises lots of great possibilities… and it will only get better with time.

I tend to try and identify the broken parts to correct or to maintain consistency on a project.

I wasn't sure how to take it.
English isn't my mother toungue and reading also leaves more room to interpretation than hearing

All's fine

 

[Hentai1987]

i don't understand why people here constantly ask when a new update will be released when there are hundreds of other good games you can download and play. I was so busy downloading other games that i even overlooked that there is a new update for Harem Hotel

How about every time somebody asks for a release date we post some hentai game recommendations

 

[DigDug69]

i don't understand why people here constantly ask when a new update will be released when there are hundreds of other good games you can download and play. I was so busy downloading other games that i even overlooked that there is a new update for Harem Hotel

How about every time somebody asks for a release date we post some hentai game recommendations

I would rather give them a link for sheep porn, and tell them that it was the update that they were looking for.

 

[TheDevian]

i don't understand why people here constantly ask when a new update will be released when there are hundreds of other good games you can download and play. I was so busy downloading other games that i even overlooked that there is a new update for Harem Hotel

How about every time somebody asks for a release date we post some hentai game recommendations

Mostly, because there are rules about talking about other games, but otherwise... XD

 

[deathspawn246]

I have a question about the shower events. I remember playing a few versions ago there were shower scenes, including scenes when their stats weren't high enough where they would ask you to go away. In this version (17.2) I'm not seeing them in the showers at all so far. No scene telling me to go away or anything. I can check the camera on the computer and see that they are in there and check their room which confirms that they are in there, but when I check the showers there is nothing there. Is this normal?

edit: This is a fresh install, starting a new playthrough. Lains mod IS installed to the current version, if that matters.

 

[DigDug69]

Shower scenes always happen in the mornings, are you checking then?

 

[deathspawn246]

i have checked every morning. confirming both on the computer and their room both before and after checking the shower room.

 

[DigDug69]

i have checked every morning. confirming both on the computer and their room both before and after checking the shower room.

Upload your save file here with a description of the problem.
Someone might be able to spot the problem, and possibly help Runey find how to fix another bug.

 

[deathspawn246]

ok so I just reopened the game to reconfirm the issue I was having, and it seems that it solved itself somehow. No idea why it wouldn't trigger when I was playing last night but now it will. I guess it must have been an issue that just needed a closing of the game and restarting to fix the issue. I guess the basic advice of "Have you tried closing and restarting the game?" can make all the difference. Apologies for the inconvenience.

 

[torresm]

i have checked every morning. confirming both on the computer and their room both before and after checking the shower room.

Just tested several of my old saves and they're all working just fine... Try creating a new game and just skip to the next Tuesday, see if you can catch Lin taking a shower. If it doesn't work, then I see no probable cause other than Lain's mod.

EDIT: wait nevermind, just read your last post. Crazy stuff, man...

 

[Dringar]

i don't understand why people here constantly ask when a new update will be released when there are hundreds of other good games you can download and play. I was so busy downloading other games that i even overlooked that there is a new update for Harem Hotel

How about every time somebody asks for a release date we post some hentai game recommendations

Thats my take. I dont comment much because if there isnt an update I just go find something else to do until there is one.