And don't forget Harem Universe, set in in future, where you can make your own harem on every planet in the universe. And, also, Harem Future, where all characters are Androids and Elves, because Humans unfortunately made a giant mistake and caused the extinction of their own race.
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- Nov 15, 2018
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Really hated where Maria's story left hanging so guess I just leave it unfinished until next version. Though this trend of virtual cockbcking seems to be a new tool of game developer as started with Autumn. Pretty bloody annoying considering just how much grind needed for each character to start giving little reward for grind on newest character and then blocking my favorite. I can understand the character development side but resolve it in same update FFS.
- Aug 29, 2017
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Then tell me what TheDevian refused to. Why are VNs by far the most developed type of 'game' on Patreon compared to more traditional games?I watched the video and wasn't impressed. I'm not sure where all the hype is coming from. That's one hour I'm not getting back. And yes, I did understand what he was saying. He makes a few minor points worth mentioning but rambles on about them for way too long.
Renpy makes it pretty easy.Then tell me what TheDevian refused to. Why are VNs by far the most developed type of 'game' on Patreon compared to more traditional games?
- Aug 11, 2017
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I think you are being ungenerous. First thing first, there's no cockblocking when it comes to Autumn, she's just a character that's supposed to deliver a specific experience that involves inherently a long time to develop. And since the game is still in development, it's just inevitable that her story progression gets split into multiple updates since there are other characters that need attention too.
That said, the game does warn you about the Maria event. And the situation is due to progress in the next update. It's just normal for a game in development to have the current content reaching a stop at each version. If this were a finished game, the critique would be fair, but it is not. It's a piece of a game and that situation is going to get a resolution and, if I recall correctly, it is due for the next update. It's not like we've had to wait six months to go further with Maria. We simply reached the end of v0.5 and have to wait 0.6, like it happens with every other character.
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I liked the rescuing of Elves and hope Miss Rin can be rescued for Ashley in next update. Saw absolutely no point in drunk in bar for single sex scene while training Moon up rewarded nothing. Still not found the Kate that listed in extras in statistics or third Emma scene so not quite sure what that is about.I fully agree (except for the PS about Ashley. Ashley is a great character but not my favorite). Version 0.6 introduces a lot more characters to the game, especially side characters. There will also be additional slaves that can be purchased in version 0.7.
I like the bar idea.
It is interesting that so many new characters are popping up when there is so little content for Autumn, Emma, and Felicity. There is also plenty more story to tell for the "original" hotel residents (Android, Lin, Kali, Ashley, Maria, Felicity, Emma, and Autumn). I personally would rather have a focused game rather than continually adding more and more new characters to keep the game alive.
So your post is very thoughtful and correct in my opinion. There are tons of more possibilities with the original girls in the hotel. After the MC's sister is introduced, I'd like to see work on Harem Hotel 2 or another creative project.
Runey does an awesome job on this game!
I also can appreciate the storytelling angle of Autumn and Maria's blocked content,,,,,but after all the grind needed on Autumn and Maria it feels more like cockblocking so more frustrating and annoying than anything and to be getting sidetracked with all his new content seems a little cruel. Probably most annoyed because Maria is my favorite by far, my sexy, smart partner in crime so for her to become second celibate character was bloody annoying so probably not as impartial as I was.
Finally I also think Ashley and Felicity's bitch masks and possessiveness have been carried on way to far, why the hell cant I lock them in a bloody room together and mediate until they open up to each other and see they both the same and its left them alone with even Emma drifting away from Felicity. To constantly sit back and let them hurt others as they self destructing is very strange and counter productive when whole goal is to build harem.
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I agree that this kind of "cliffhanger" was not really the best choice, but I don't see any cockblocking here at all. There are many others to get laid.
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Tell me any other game where unlocked content is relocked as a cliffhanger? So in no way is relocking content and needing more grind to unlock normal. And in no way is not been able to unlock it again at least til next update or even longer) normal or even necessary. Sure you can get around it by simply not doing but the whole thing is a pointless mechanic that wasted time and effort better spent elsewhere. And sorry considering how damn gullible August was in few scenes we did get the whole damn character is ridiculously flawed and should have easily been talked out of panties....seriously I need masturbation material because I cant watch porn or screw ny of other girls even though she knows full well what I did with Ashley at her family cafe and has to have lived under rock whole stay to be only character not to know I screwing everyone else in hotel.
- Aug 11, 2017
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You want an example? Corruption, by Mr. C. When you bring a character to her highest level of corruption and enslave her you lose access to all previous sex options and it's been that way for a long time since the slave content for said character hasn't been implemented until recently and only partially.
But the whole point remains: games have a start and a finish, a fortiori games that aren't yet finished. The game is in development, every update has a start and an end. There is repeatable content in this game and there is not repeatable content (story scenes are one-shot). You are given a clear warning before locking Maria's repeatable content at the end of 0.5, it's your choice to play through it and save afterwards. You could do like me, wait for 0.6 before proceeding. You didn't. Is it the author's fault or a game flaw? It is not. It is a feature to enforce realism. The story makes Maria reconsider the situation and it wouldn't be coherent to then go on as if nothing happened.
If there was no warning, I'd understand your complaint, but there is a clear warning.
Regarding Autumn, she is easily convinced of your good faith and virtue, but she's not dumb. She has a set of very religious values and won't certainly just give her body to you because you ask or come out with some dumb excuse. She's supposed to be a hard to get by and hard to seduce character. That's her appeal and her very design. If you don't like her, there's not much it can be done, you simply don't like the character. It happens.
For instance, I don't like Felicity and I think Lin is best girl, but that's subjective.
I did tell you, because 'sex sells', and this is something that some people find easy enough to do (I wish I was one of them, but that level of coding is beyond a dyslexic like me), which means that because so many people can make something, the 'market' gets flooded with them (and there will always be a market for sex stuff, especially in places where they repress their sexuality). It's as simple as that. I mean, as I started last time, there are actually a great many reasons, far more than the short list I gave before, but this isn't the place for that.Then tell me what TheDevian refused to. Why are VNs by far the most developed type of 'game' on Patreon compared to more traditional games?
But, if you are trying to use that as a defense of reading and writing, you need to take a long close look at some of these games, few are even up to this level of writing, and many are downright painful to read (even if some of those are still fun to play). Don't get me wrong, I am glad people are reading anything, but most of the stuff here is not what you would call 'high literature'.
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Anyway this debate pointless so will agree to disagree with one eyed fan boy. Sorry like game but much better storylines with better games will be ones that keep getting my patreon money. He is far from winning me over with character inconsistencies and levels of grinding needed and bringing backtracking into an already grindfest is not going to win over new fans.
One game hardly makes normal and transitioning from one set of content to a set of slave content is very different from blocking content with no replacement. And f you learnt to read I repeatedly said I am not completing the story line as most wont which is why it makes the whole thing redundant waste of time. You keep talking about realism but then happy to ignore totally ridiculous that included in game. Androids and elves fine and a totally trusting and gullible overly sheltered woman of blind faith takes ridiculous grind to get nowhere but tell her your celibate and anti porn but if dont cum she strips off to give you fap material but MC is to dumb to talk her into bed FFS that is as ridiculous as it gets. She is as dumb as a post, when asked directly about her rules of faith she has no answers just blind faith with no knowledge fed to her by parents same for her Elf freedom efforts when questioned by Lin she had no answers and denied anything that questioned church even from an eye witness, she has massive blinkers and has demonstrated no intelligence and has worked her whole life in a coffee shop. Aloofness, arrogance and sense of superiority do not make intelligence and are easily manipulated, the twins would be much harder to crack in realty because of their innate distrust created by father issues.
Anyway this debate pointless so will agree to disagree with one eyed fan boy. Sorry like game but much better storylines with better games will be ones that keep getting my patreon money. He is far from winning me over with character inconsistencies and levels of grinding needed and bringing backtracking into an already grindfest is not going to win over new fans.
I am very curious on what your definition of 'grinding' is. What I understand is 'reading' is hard for you and what you consider a grind.
All stats can be ignored, stats rarely effect the story as well. So you don't need to buy outfits, or unlock traits for them. You don't need to unlock the bar, or watch them shower. To play the game though, you need to read the story. So from what I understand, reading means grinding for you. If you don't like visual novels, don't play them.
And if I understand correctly, you're upset that you had to play the game, then wait 5 days while Maria thinks about herself (This is how long she's supposed to locked). Yes, she was technically locked for 2 ish months while the update was going, but honestly, I've never seen so much hype for Maria before. Never have I seen so many people talk about Maria than after that update.
Autumn isn't dumb, but she is a bit naive. She's stuck in her own personal logic, and if you play around that logic, you can get whatever you want from her. And she only has 13 story events, which means clicking 13 times on her door to read the story. If that's grind to you, it must be hard to blink.
All characters start in their most flawed state, which is generally how stories are written, or in other words, "rags to riches". Rags to riches is the most popular form of story telling because we like to see progression.
Anyway, that's sort of all I want to say. Everything else you've complained about has been explained in game, and since reading is apparently hard for you, I don't expect you to read the story and understand what's going on.
edit: I can totally understand if you don't like the characters, or their stories, or the game as a whole. Your opinion is perfectly fine with me.
Felicity and Emma are basically caught up with the rest of the girls. They're only 3 - 4 events behind most of the girls, and Autumn is around 13 events behind most of the girls. This was also a complaint when Android showed up, but she caught up quickly due to me having less stories to juggle. All of the new girls get special treatment to get caught up by having more story than the older girls.I fully agree (except for the PS about Ashley. Ashley is a great character but not my favorite). Version 0.6 introduces a lot more characters to the game, especially side characters. There will also be additional slaves that can be purchased in version 0.7.
I like the bar idea.
It is interesting that so many new characters are popping up when there is so little content for Autumn, Emma, and Felicity. There is also plenty more story to tell for the "original" hotel residents (Android, Lin, Kali, Ashley, Maria, Felicity, Emma, and Autumn). I personally would rather have a focused game rather than continually adding more and more new characters to keep the game alive.
So your post is very thoughtful and correct in my opinion. There are tons of more possibilities with the original girls in the hotel. After the MC's sister is introduced, I'd like to see work on Harem Hotel 2 or another creative project.
Runey does an awesome job on this game!
I don't really sacrifice main girls stories for side girls stories, but I can see how it seems that's the case. I just make story when I think of it, and I think of it a week before I start development on the update. Sometimes I have story for the update after, but typically not. So this update, I had a lot of stories in mind for side characters, and I also wanted to make the game broader. But side characters wont be having the same focus as main characters. They'll just be getting some fun story lines whenever they pop into my head.
This is one of my favorite games I've discovered on this site so I'm going to throw in my 5 a month
- Jan 30, 2019
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So it turns out Renpy supports updates:
("Build Updates" was a feature I had to enable in the script)
I don't know exactly how this works, but I'm assuming I would click that button and once it's built, and when you launch the game, it'd ask you to update. This means you wouldn't have to redownload the full game every update.
@Runey, if you don't have a webserver available I'd be more than happy to host it for you, I'd have to see what the requirements are
Thank you! I actually have a friend who has offered to do some hosting for me. I'm still not exactly sure what all needs to be done, or how expensive it will be, or even how many people will use the update feature. But if it works, it sounds like a great way to update.
- Jan 30, 2019
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Sounds awesome, but let me know if I can help in any way, of course it'd be no charge for you
Do you know if this feature is available for Android devices (the phone OS, not the character toys
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