Why would these parameters apply to how much i like her or not. I prefered the older Yandere Ashley vs the meek one now who is too timid around the Twins now theyve gone from being bullies to fast friends but that doesnt mean she should not have been in older tier list now does it? Its the same with all the girls - some will rise and fall in favour but doesnt mean they should be excluded just because you personally feel theyve not been developed enough. Thats a strange way of gatekeeping who is popular and who is not (as Runey doesnt exclude side girls in his polls - he always has one for the non main love interests).
You missed the point entirely.
My point is that it does not matter which version of a character you prefer, the fact that they are evolving characters means that you have to give their character arcs enough time to play out before you can form a reasonable opinion on them. You woudn't rate a book by its first chapter or movie by the first 15 minutes either.
Ashley is just a good example of this because she changes so much as you get to know her that you can easily see how someone might start with her at the bottom or top of their list and have that position change completely several times during her character arc like a demented ping pong ball on crack.
Autumn is kind of like that as well. Starting off as a religious loon that I honestly avoided on account of finding her downright creepy and ending up as something far almost appealing. And yet I can easily see how someone might have the exact opposite opinion of her.
So like with a story that has such deep character development I just feel that who ever made that list system was right in excluding any that we haven't yet seen much off. That at least is my view of these things.
As for her mom. Thats half the appeal my friend. Oh is she a bad mother and a bad person? Well she needs punished. This is a game where you can literally have a love route or a slave route for bad elves so why not bad mothers. She is to one day be the MCs mother in law and grandmother to their children so she needs put in her place... a solid couple of days in the dungeon with Jin and the MC fucking her bad attitude into oblivion would be ideal for all concerned and i know Ashley would get a real kick of making her mom watch her fuck the MC. Shes been a bad mother as she was always away working, i think there is room for a neglected MILF angle with her (as the husband was a piece of shit) but i think maybe seeing Ashley blow the MC opened her horizons a bit already... ideally.
I guess I am just really not into grannies. I mean, the woman most be in her 40's or something. That's even more ancient than I am if you can believe it.