VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

[Runey]

Might also be partly due to the fact that I was already wanting to do almost anything to help the elves, even if it means running for office, taking over the government, and/or buying every elf myself.
Yes, that is an option now, as is Lin and Android, when they are both avbl.

Yes, yes, and yes. The Elves must be saved from the horrible excuses for humans who own them, no matter the cost. Minus mindless death and destruction, of course. Nia has the right idea, but she's going about it in the wrong way and could actually end up making things worse.

(un)Fortunately Syl'anar is a democracy, and the populace is ~83% in favor of slavery. The Elvish Rights Act was debated upon only 30 years ago. That's why I say it's unfortunate, because even if you ran for an office the people would never like you enough. They like Cornwall, even if he was a bit radical to give elves rights.

Instead, the populace needs to be convinced and they need to stop believing in propaganda they see about elves.

There has to be some reason that not all people of Elven heritage are treated like that, it makes no sense to discriminate only partially against Elven heritage because, sooner or later, the people who aren't oppressed, the less than half Elves, are going to stand up for their half or more brethren and it isn't going to be pretty. I'm no oppressive wannabe dictator, but it isn't smart to leave someone with the oppressed traits free to start opposition movements against the people in charge no matter how weak the traits are in them. It might just be me thinking that Cornwall is hiding something, I just get this sneaking suspicion that not all is as it seems with him.

When has bigotry ever been logical?
The people in power enforce a stereotype and release propaganda encouraging elvish slavery, which includes false stereotypes like "elves are mentally inferior" or that their blood is somehow tainted. Evolutionarily, elves and humans are so close to each other there is almost never an issue with crossbreeding. This isn't mentioned because it keeps cornwall in power and Mr. Trenero rich as fuck. If there were no slaves, there could be no minister of slavery.

 

[Skode]

The best thing I can hope to happen when players see this event is for them to be angry at the system and fired up for justice.

did you consider doing similar to Android and locking out the spoiler related character till the next update? Simply as to see her going from that to moving on to being her old self and having access to all her old sex content etc is somewhat is slightly jarring given it would indeed be understandable that she take some time out to process what happened and what it means in the future for her.

The scene most certainly made an impact though - its turned things up to 11 regarding the MC pushing for action quite unlike what weve seen before (its usually the other characters who drive the story, this one though felt personal and made the MC more like a character unlike any event which comes to mind before as he seems more a follower than a leader IMO).

 

[Runey]

Spoiler: Continuity errors in my game V.12

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Thanks for the reports, can you share a picture of exact quote from the events you're talking about so I can fix them?

 

[alex2011]

(un)Fortunately Syl'anar is a democracy, and the populace is ~83% in favor of slavery. The Elvish Rights Act was debated upon only 30 years ago. That's why I say it's unfortunate, because even if you ran for an office the people would never like you enough. They like Cornwall, even if he was a bit radical to give elves rights.

Instead, the populace needs to be convinced and they need to stop believing in propaganda they see about elves.



When has bigotry ever been logical?
The people in power enforce a stereotype and release propaganda encouraging elvish slavery, which includes false stereotypes like "elves are mentally inferior" or that their blood is somehow tainted. Evolutionarily, elves and humans are so close to each other there is almost never an issue with crossbreeding. This isn't mentioned because it keeps cornwall in power and Mr. Trenero rich as fuck. If there were no slaves, there could be no minister of slavery.

is a democracy

I figured it was something like that.

~83% in favor of slavery

Ouch, that would be a problem. Maybe a pro elf resistance movement could start an information campaign seeking to change the opinions of the 83%. In the past IRL, that was one of many ways resistance movements used to make changes. Some of the more well known ones did use violence, the French resistance to German occupation in particular was known for this, but they did also use peaceful methods to attempt change.

With the backing of someone with major funds, maybe a certain abolitionist in secret or a certain hotel resident's family, they could spread counter-propaganda that seeks to humanize elves to the 83%. This as well as the attempt to oust Cornwall in an election could prove useful. Even if the candidate doesn't win, any air time could serve to help affect change in the overall opinion.

elves are mentally inferior

Sylvia would destroy this false notion in seconds if she were ever allowed to show off in public.

 

[Hana|GOAT]

Yeah, you potentially have blackmail. Unfortunately using said blackmail is a M.A.D. moment. The reason power players can get by after burning a political asset is because they have other political assets to fall back to (or lots and lots of money/power aka are political power players in their own right). If you release the blackmail (which lets not forget you would, at this point, need to be using to cover your own ass before you could use it to advance any agenda) how quickly do you think other's in the hierarchy or his successor would move against you and your girls.

I'm not sure about Cornwell or whatever is name is. But I don't think the relationship between the MC and Kali's dad has been broken. I highly doubt that he'd forsake both of his daughters who are definently on the MCs side. I imagine that if the MC, Kali, and Lucia explained what happened, he'd probably forgive the outburst. Or at the very least, let it slide. Especially considering his new wifus half elf status.

This would probably change though if the calls went public like a user above mentioned.

They are very intelligent, they just learn more slowly, but retain the memories much longer.

I already knew that. Sorry if I didn't make it clear. I imagined that the drug would increase their learning speed, thus evening the playing field with the humans.

 

[Harem_Master]

We need a new rule! No clothing allowed in the hot spring! It's bad manners to even bring a towel in there!

Also, side note, the others times of day, when the girls are around the hotel, such as when they are in the lobby or the utility room for example, the roommates are not in the spring, only then they are at work.

It would be nice, if one day this gets expanded, and we can eventually have fun with whoever is in there.

Wholeheartedly Agree! The only two who seem follow this rule are the Sex Elves Ann, and now Jin ("YAY!!!")

Just going to do my civic duty for this thread, Those who are looking to solve Kate's Riddles. The final answer for her when she asks, "???",

The final Answer is Vore.

When you solve all her riddles with manual inputs it spells erov, she then says look at it backwards and you get vore.

1st set of riddles, the final answer is E
2nd set of riddles, the answer is r
3rd set of riddles answer is o
and the final set answer is V

once you complete all the riddles speak to her again and she will ask ???, type "Vore".

feel free to refer to this post for answers so we don't flood the pages with people asking.

Quite a letdown for a guy like me who is known on this forum for his "TASTE" in women to have to settle for

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[LordZ3]

Can't wait to play this version and future content, great work

 

[TheDevian]

(un)Fortunately Syl'anar is a democracy, and the populace is ~83% in favor of slavery. The Elvish Rights Act was debated upon only 30 years ago. That's why I say it's unfortunate, because even if you ran for an office the people would never like you enough. They like Cornwall, even if he was a bit radical to give elves rights.

Instead, the populace needs to be convinced and they need to stop believing in propaganda they see about elves.

Yeah, he would have to make sure NOT to run on freeing elves, but use other tactics. I happen to know a certain country where the people with less votes can win, so anything is possible. There are plenty of ways to win an election that do not require running on issues, the easiest way is just to trash the other people running.

Of course, convincing the population would be a huge step, and that is where media comes in, they need to make movies and T.V. shows about this stuff, and show people the other side, much like Lin's idea of showing people the desert elves, but with fictional characters, so there is no one at risk of getting killed. Art has always been a tool of progress, and making people think.

We need more elves in media, like actors, comedians, singers, comics, and so on.

Hahaha, Elfy Murphy, Elfin Maiden, The Blue Oyster Elf, Elf and Grace (could be about their half elf kid), Elf Paul - the human who 'cross-dresses' like an elf to do shows, that super hero team ...the Elvengers!, The Legion of Extraordinary Gentle-elves, that singing duo - Elfy and Cher, and ...so on.

 

[somebodynobody]

Sylvia would destroy this false notion in seconds if she were ever allowed to show off in public.

Is Sylvia even necessary for that? They parade the "Elf Queen" Jia around, she literally gives speeches and has "meet and greets". She is showing at least base level intelligence for a human to do these things. The public I doubt actually think of them like dumb animals and just like having "lessers" around to use in whatever way they aren't allowed to do to each other.

If androids came first then the same would be happening to them for the same reasons of "being dumb machines" and not human.

I do also think some people won't willingly give up their slaves when/if the elves get replaced by bots, because again they want to harm things they deem lesser and like seeing the effect on other living beings.

Hahaha, Elfy Murphy, Elfin Maiden, The Blue Oyster Elf, Elf and Grace (could be about their half elf kid), Elf Paul - the human who 'cross-dresses' like an elf to do shows, that super hero team ...the Elvengers!, The Legion of Extraordinary Gentle-elves, that singing duo - Elfy and Cher, and ...so on.

Billy Elfish...

 

[ankhtar]

I haven't actually seen the event myself because every time I see the word "spoiler", my brain automatically rearranges it to "CLICK IT PLEASE, I HAVE TO KNOW!!! CLICK IT DAMN IT!". Disregard the character difference between both sentences.

Imo, the phone call was dumb, and any potential pull we may or may not have had with Cornwall at that point may well be lost before we could make use of it, but I believe it would be easier to appeal to Trenero, seeing as we're currently banging his daughter(s) and he seems to place such a big emphasis on their happiness. If nothing else, we could appeal to his wife and let her pull some strings behind the scenes as far as he's concerned.
On the other hand, both Trenero and Cornwall are like a two-headed leech attached to the proverbial legs of slavery. A leech that has a vested interest in staying at those legs for both their power, money and position. You can't really pull one without the other, and if you grab the head of one, you'll get pounced by the other. I don't know if this is making much sense but that's the image I came up with, lol.

I don't know. It's a complex situation and I don't know enough about politics and/or toppling an oppressive society to make any guesses as to what the MC could do at this point. All I can hope for is that Runey didn't plan a russian "all wars demand sacrifices" ending for this whole thing. Right...? Guys?

 

[ankhtar]

We need more elves in media, like actors, comedians, singers, comics, and so on.

Hahaha, Elfy Murphy, Elfin Maiden, The Blue Oyster Elf, Elf and Grace (could be about their half elf kid), Elf Paul - the human who 'cross-dresses' like an elf to do shows, that super hero team ...the Elvengers!, The Legion of Extraordinary Gentle-elves, that singing duo - Elfy and Cher, and ...so on.

So that thing about Elfie-Wan Kenobi and Luke Skyelf assaulting the Elfstar was just a dream? Man...

 

[alex2011]

Yeah, he would have to make sure NOT to run on freeing elves, but use other tactics. I happen to know a certain country where the people with less votes can win, so anything is possible. There are plenty of ways to win an election that do not require running on issues, the easiest way is just to trash the other people running.

Of course, convincing the population would be a huge step, and that is where media comes in, they need to make movies and T.V. shows about this stuff, and show people the other side, much like Lin's idea of showing people the desert elves, but with fictional characters, so there is no one at risk of getting killed. Art has always been a tool of progress, and making people think.

We need more elves in media, like actors, comedians, singers, comics, and so on.

Hahaha, Elfy Murphy, Elfin Maiden, The Blue Oyster Elf, Elf and Grace (could be about their half elf kid), Elf Paul - the human who 'cross-dresses' like an elf to do shows, that super hero team ...the Elvengers!, The Legion of Extraordinary Gentle-elves, that singing duo - Elfy and Cher, and ...so on.

Assuming the candidate, which could be the MC or another person entirely, has the funding, they could outbuy their opposition as is usually the case in some countries IRL. Also, Efin Maiden is giving me very strong Warcraft 3 credits vibes. I suggest looking up "Power of The Horde" to find out what I'm talking about if you don't already know, the actual credit sequence should be somewhere online.

Is Sylvia even necessary for that? They parade the "Elf Queen" Jia around, she literally gives speeches and has "meet and greets". She is showing at least base level intelligence for a human to do these things.

Not necessarily, she's just the most intelligent named elf in the game. While Lin and the others are at least of average intelligence in their own right by real world standards, Sylvia is undeniably more than that. Also, while the queen is somewhat intelligent, she is Cornwall's puppet, a collaborator whether willingly so or not. She eats right out of his hand and all she has to do is act in a manner befitting her station while, in reality, she is easily the least deserving elf to hold the title. If high elf society was a democracy itself, her being queen means it is clearly not, Jia would not be in power, I guarantee that much. Her people would have seen her working with the very human responsible for the enslavement of their kind outside their lands and would seek to remove her.

 

[coyotegrey]

I'm not sure about Cornwell or whatever is name is. But I don't think the relationship between the MC and Kali's dad has been broken. I highly doubt that he'd forsake both of his daughters who are definently on the MCs side. I imagine that if the MC, Kali, and Lucia explained what happened, he'd probably forgive the outburst. Or at the very least, let it slide. Especially considering his new wifus half elf status.

This would probably change though if the calls went public like a user above mentioned.

Forsake his daughters, never, forsake their boyfriend however? We've already been shown that Kali's dad is willing to do what he believes is for their best even if they get upset with him over it. The man basically runs a continent giving him his little girls and making sure that it doesn't appear on their records is worth gaining a favor from him.

Editing for clarity: The authorities giving him his daughters if everything blows up in your face rather than punishing them beside you.

 

[TheDevian]

I haven't actually seen the event myself because every time I see the word "spoiler", my brain automatically rearranges it to "CLICK IT PLEASE, I HAVE TO KNOW!!! CLICK IT DAMN IT!". Disregard the character difference between both sentences.

Imo, the phone call was dumb, and any potential pull we may or may not have had with Cornwall at that point may well be lost before we could make use of it, but I believe it would be easier to appeal to Trenero, seeing as we're currently banging his daughter(s) and he seems to place such a big emphasis on their happiness. If nothing else, we could appeal to his wife and let her pull some strings behind the scenes as far as he's concerned.
On the other hand, both Trenero and Cornwall are like a two-headed leech attached to the proverbial legs of slavery. A leech that has a vested interest in staying at those legs for both their power, money and position. You can't really pull one without the other, and if you grab the head of one, you'll get pounced by the other. I don't know if this is making much sense but that's the image I came up with, lol.

I don't know. It's a complex situation and I don't know enough about politics and/or toppling an oppressive society to make any guesses as to what the MC could do at this point. All I can hope for is that Runey didn't plan a russian "all wars demand sacrifices" ending for this whole thing. Right...? Guys?

Yeah, Kali and Luci, not to mention their stepmom could easily help smooth over things with their dad.

Cornwall, is another story, but we do still also have some pull with his other ally, Autumn's father (assuming she can still get him on our side).

So that thing about Elfie-Wan Kenobi and Luke Skyelf assaulting the Elfstar was just a dream? Man...

I would have gone with Luke Elfwalker, but hey, anything is possible, right? XD

Not to mention that Muppets sketch, Elves in Spaaaaaace!!!!!

Assuming the candidate, which could be the MC or another person entirely, has the funding, they could outbuy their opposition as is usually the case in some countries IRL. Also, Efin Maiden is giving me very strong Warcraft 3 credits vibes. I suggest looking up "Power of The Horde" to find out what I'm talking about if you don't already know, the actual credit sequence should be somewhere online.


Not necessarily, she's just the most intelligent named elf in the game. While Lin and the others are at least of average intelligence in their own right by real world standards, Sylvia is undeniably more than that. Also, while the queen is somewhat intelligent, she is Cornwall's puppet, a collaborator whether willingly so or not. She eats right out of his hand and all she has to do is act in a manner befitting her station while, in reality, she is easily the least deserving elf to hold the title. If high elf society was a democracy itself, her being queen means it is clearly not, Jia would not be in power, I guarantee that much. Her people would have seen her working with the very human responsible for the enslavement of their kind outside their lands and would seek to remove her.

If we can keep Kali's family on our side, funding should not be a problem, though I guess technically, he is foreigner, and his money might not be legal, but I am sure he would know how to launder it, so it looked like our money somehow.

Lin seem to have a higher Wits/Wisdom than her Int, where Sylvia seems to have a pretty low Wisdom, but a high Int.

Yes, Jia is a puppet, but with any luck, we can win that little contest, and she can become OUR puppet.

 

[ankhtar]

I would have gone with Luke Elfwalker, but hey, anything is possible, right? XD

There would be at least 6 movies spanning a decade plus remastered remakes at some point after. I'm sure we can afford some creative liberties and no one will notice.

 

[alex2011]

If we can keep Kali's family on our side, funding should not be a problem, though I guess technically, he is foreigner, and his money might not be legal, but I am sure he would know how to launder it, so it looked like our money somehow.

Lin seem to have a higher Wits/Wisdom than her Int, where Sylvia seems to have a pretty low Wisdom, but a high Int.

Yes, Jia is a puppet, but with any luck, we can win that little contest, and she can become OUR puppet.

Foreign funding isn't unheard of and Kali's father is exactly what I was thinking when I mentioned outbuying Cornwall. If anyone can provide enough funding, it's Kali's father. Also, while Kali's father is a foreigner, nothing says he can't start up something in Syl'anar and throw the funding into that for use in the campaign as a donation from this new source. It would not be from him directly, but from the new source created inside Syl'anar, and would therefore be seen as domestic instead of foreign. There would also be no real reason to try to trace the money back to him from this new source because there wouldn't necessarily be a known connection between the two. Cornwall could be outspent by Kali's father and never even know it was him.

As for the elves, yeah, there is definitely a difference in what kind of intelligence they have. I agree that Lin is more witty and Sylvia is more intelligent, which are most definitely not the same. Wits/wisdom is more about what they experience while intelligence itself is more about what they are taught. One can know something because they were told about it while the other knows because they saw it on their own. The first would be more intelligent and the second would be wiser. In this case, intelligence is what we want, not wisdom, and Sylvia fits best in that regard. The problem I see with her is her outlook on humans BECAUSE she was enslaved. First order of business with her would be to change that outlook, try to get her to see the good in us.

 

[somebodynobody]

I do wonder what that whole thing about Jia the "Elf Queen" looking for a "King". Seems like a stunt by the church or something especially with Autumn's dad there and some Saint lady, maybe a power play? But why would humans who think of elves as lesser beings want to officially be married to an elf which lowers their standing? Sure she might be a tourist attraction, but it also I assume would make the human a pariah.

 

[TheDevian]

Foreign funding isn't unheard of and Kali's father is exactly what I was thinking when I mentioned outbuying Cornwall. If anyone can provide enough funding, it's Kali's father. Also, while Kali's father is a foreigner, nothing says he can't start up something in Syl'anar and throw the funding into that for use in the campaign as a donation from this new source. It would not be from him directly, but from the new source created inside Syl'anar, and would therefore be seen as domestic instead of foreign. There would also be no real reason to try to trace the money back to him from this new source because there wouldn't necessarily be a known connection between the two. Cornwall could be outspent by Kali's father and never even know it was him.

As for the elves, yeah, there is definitely a difference in what kind of intelligence they have. I agree that Lin is more witty and Sylvia is more intelligent, which are most definitely not the same. Wits/wisdom is more about what they experience while intelligence itself is more about what they are taught. One can know something because they were told about it while the other knows because they saw it on their own. The first would be more intelligent and the second would be wiser. In this case, intelligence is what we want, not wisdom, and Sylvia fits best in that regard. The problem I see with her is her outlook on humans BECAUSE she was enslaved. First order of business with her would be to change that outlook, try to get her to see the good in us.

Yeah, we just don't know what laws they might have there about it, on the other hand, he does have companies there, so that might be a loophole either way.

Well, we are working on showing Sylvia that in the romance path anyway, and if nothing else, she has her tv that she needs to save. XD

I do wonder what that whole thing about Jia the "Elf Queen" looking for a "King". Seems like a stunt by the church or something especially with Autumn's dad there and some Saint lady, maybe a power play? But why would humans who think of elves as lesser beings want to officially be married to an elf which lowers their standing? Sure she might be a tourist attraction, but it also I assume would make the human a pariah.

Hard to say how that will play out, and I assume many people would have a problem with that, but I can see a number of ways we can take advantage of it, if we manage to get in there. There are also people who will do anything for their 15 min. of fame, so it's hard to say.

 

[EscapeEvade]

Most events have simple requirements, these being: Wait a few days after the last one, location must be specific, or time must be specific.

I can only help if I know what number you're on, so for the 9th bar event, go into the bar in the evening. For the 10th bar event, be in your room in the evening.

As a developer, it's hard to play the game like a player. So I'm sort of assuming the player walks around the hotel to see what's going on, it's my hope that you naturally come across these events.

Yeah, I get it. We the fans are not always the most precise in how we ask about things. I do wander around, but perhaps not as completely as I should.

I'll give the bar ones a shot tomorrow night. No idea on the Eli, Emma, and Felicity story event(s) that must be undone.

 

[Deleted member 192234]

Hahaha, Elfy Murphy, Elfin Maiden, The Blue Oyster Elf, Elf and Grace (could be about their half elf kid), Elf Paul - the human who 'cross-dresses' like an elf to do shows, that super hero team ...the Elvengers!, The Legion of Extraordinary Gentle-elves, that singing duo - Elfy and Cher, and ...so on.

If Lin and Android improved in cooking than, for example, Gordon Ramsay ....


Wait, I don't know it's possible for someone to be better at cooking than Gordon. I don't think it's possible.


If they acquired their cooking skills at the level of Gordon Ramsay ...


Wait, I don't think it's possible to be as good at cooking as Gordon.


If they would somehow manage to get their cooking skills somewhere near Gordon's level, they could start a cooking show on TV or start a youtube cooking channel and write some cookbooks. But I know it will probably never happen. But some other elves could get a chance. There could be a tv show like Elf Iron Chef, an Elf Masterchef, an Elf Hell's Kitchen, an Elf Ace Of Cakes, or a show I heard about recently, and I'm thinking about checking out, The Great Elf (British) Bake Of. It would attract people who own restaurants with elven chefs and elven chefs, bakeries with elven bakers, etc., or just people who own elves who are really good at cooking, with the promise of money and fame for the human who will bring the best contestant and free advertising for their restaurant/bakery/etc.

Also can you imagine Lin screaming like Gordon Ramsay, or screaming his most famous quotes? You know which quotes I am talking about.