VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

[Runey]

Decent game (I really feel for Ashley and want to see her twelve children), but man this has to be the most on-the-nose allegory I have seen yet in a porn game.

I've always considered the story to be a twisted mirror to reality.

 

[van321]

I've always considered the story to be a twisted mirror to reality.

I wish the museum scene contained more subtlety in the world-building and (especially) character interactions to make the allegory in a more insightful and less condescending way, but I'm just some fapper on the Internet. And to be fair, Hollywood hasn't done any better.

 

[Hurukiwai]

I think Kali's level 30 event is bugged for some reason, read the previous pages etc.
She doesn't show up to in the morning and there's no talk option for her either. Every other character story is complete.
Guess no Vanessa scenes

 

[Runey]

I wish the museum scene contained more subtlety in the world-building and (especially) character interactions to make the allegory in a more insightful and less condescending way, but I'm just some fapper on the Internet. And to be fair, Hollywood hasn't done any better.

You mean condescending towards monarchs? Nah, fuck the monarchs. Off with all the heads of monarchs. They were leeches.

I think Kali's level 30 event is bugged for some reason, read the previous pages etc.
She doesn't show up to in the morning and there's no talk option for her either. Every other character story is complete.
Guess no Vanessa scenes

Please read the last page. Don't download unreleased beta builds when you don't know what you're doing.

 

[Jjay08]

You mean condescending towards monarchs? Nah, fuck the monarchs. Off with all the heads of monarchs. They were leeches.


Please read the last page. Don't download unreleased beta builds when you don't know what you're doing.

Right? fuck monarchs. I wish lin did piss on it tbh.

 

[alex2011]

Can we finally fuck and Creampie Autumn?

Not yet

Can we get the pre-compressed version? I already think the game looks like a blurry mess.

It doesn't as long as it isn't compressed further than Runey already compresses it.

But that is a problem. Not everyone has uber fast internet with a stable connection. Sometimes an ISP is disrupted and it goes down to a slower speed for some reason. Right now I looking at our normally 25 mbs being kicked in the head down to 7 mbs. So I am looking at a 3h+ download time and this ISP is not stable enough for that. The idea of a patch file where you download just the changes is a wonderful idea and I wish it was done more often (we don't have one to go to 0.13...yet).

Also the fact that there was a ~2.0 GB compressed version for 0.12.4 that looked reasonable shows the claim "Further compression makes this game look like a blurry mess." to be total BS.

The patch idea is good on paper, but in practice, it just doesn't work with a game like this one. Also, you're forgetting the risks that come with those super compressed versions. What Runey is saying is that his official versions are already as compressed as they can be without having problems ranging from looking bad to outright crashing. And, no, it is not BS. That's how image compression works. The more you compress an image, the worse it starts to look and it becomes noticeable after a point. A point that is different for everyone with Runey being able to see the compression sooner than most of the rest of us.

oh dear lord its 7 gigs. any chance someone can come up with a patch only download? no clue if that's even possible but that'd cut down on download time by a lot

It isn't with a game like this.

You're right, I just want to punish people with slow internet because I don't like them for some arbitrary reason. I guess I'm just a bigot towards slow internet users, sorry. I definitely don't have experience in this, or have actually been doing this for three years until v0.12 for android users. But go ahead, download that build that 'isn't a blurry mess'. Enjoy.



It's possible for me to upload the image file, but the scripts are a messy issue. As far as I'm aware, replacing or merging scripts breaks the game. Not sure how to get around that. I would love to be able to upload a separate patch because I understand the pain of slow download speeds. I was paying $75 for 300KB/s only 5 years ago. But it's likely to cause more issues than it fixes, including broken saves.



There are a few ways you can get around the mega limit, surprised more people don't know this.
You can use a free browser VPN or download the mega app, which doesn't have a restriction.

I'll...go get the burn treatment now.

Is this the biggest renpy game on site now?

Possibly

8GB ??????

You can store ~16,815,532 well compressed images in that much space (webp high quality, 1080p).

Does this game have around 16 million pictures, or does the dev need to learn about compression???

Be-carefull, you might hurt his feeling.

we could use a torrent link

The former, the game is already compressed down by 10x its size. The uncompressed game is around 70-80GB according to Runey.

Compressed Pls!

Can't happen without potentially severe issues like crashing, the game is too big.

I see the incest code turns the two sisters from clones to sisters. wouldn't clones doing sexual things still be considered incest though.

Nope, there are no laws in that regard about clones since clones aren't actually a thing that can happen to that degree right now. It's at a basic level at best.

New Compressed ??

PLZ

place Compressed game

Too big to be compressed any further than it already is without potential problems.

Do someone have a working apk of Joiplay to run the game?

Use Joiplay on the Windows version, it is too big to be made into an APK.

The uncompressed size is not manageable with those filehosters.

Not even close, not for free, anyway. We're talking 70GB minimum for uncompressed. What we get here is already compressed, even the 7GB one.

It might be time to consider adding "update" files to the download lines. it is now 7GB, that is a lot to make people re download the whole file when they already have most of the files on their computer.

Update files can be done, but like compression, this game is at its limit already with that ability. The update files MIGHT work or they MIGHT break your copy entirely.

A torrent would be quite helpful!

Extremely helpful

LOVE LOVE LOVE this game, my only real issue is its gotten out of hand how you dont offer an update only patch for people to download. 7gb DL now, and I have most of that downloaded already on previous version. Maybe game like ToN have just spoiled me with this option.

That's because they don't work properly on a reliable basis.

Played a new chapter and ....
This is a big disappointment. Honestly, I expected more.
I think the idea of adding a bunch of new characters is not very good. A new location has also been added, which is absolutely pointless, because we already have so many locations that are idle and are very poorly used.
There are many unfinished storylines that are not completed in a logical place, but simply because.....
The plot becomes very difficult to follow due to the heap of characters and the long breaks between updates. It also does not improve this by the fact that after loading the save from version 12, some quests were rolled back and confusion began.
And there are too many characters that don't develop in any way.
There are also some bugs.
The nastiest is that it is impossible to dress Autumn in a purchased outfit (there is no menu, although the outfit is purchased)

But despite everything, I still love this game and hope for its further development (Kate, Felicity and Emma are the best girl!)

A LOT of what you listed are symptoms of the game still being in development. These things are going to happen on occasion.

By the way, everyone, I am looking into the possibility of releasing patches in a much easier way. This would probably only work on PC, but since Android uses the PC version, it will probably be possible on Android too, if you have the tech skills necessary.

Hopefully I will have this out alongside v0.13.1 tomorrow.

IF this works, the Android users could also patch on their PC and then move it to Android. That is, assuming they even have a PC to begin with. Some just prefer Android and do have a PC.

 

[van321]

You mean condescending towards monarchs? Nah, fuck the monarchs. Off with all the heads of monarchs. They were leeches.

Monarchs can go to hell. It seems deeper than that, though.

I interpreted the Republic of Caliber formation world-building to be an allegory for the American Revolution (independence from the Capitol being independence from the British Empire) with a bit of the French Revolution (King Michael = Louis XVI) for flavor, and the elves as American chattel slaves. The allegory I refer to is the obvious contradiction of the origin myth of Liberalism overtaking Monarchy when masters and slaves still exist under the same system of laws. It's an interesting idea to play off different perspectives of the Republic of Caliber origin myth with a history buff who knows the story of the victors (Maria), a devout who knows the story as framed in religious scripture (Autumn), and someone who knows how the story as was known at the time it happened by the losing side because she was alive at the time (Lin), though both Maria and Autumn (neither of whom are characteristically unempathetic) are played for as uncaring fools in just this scene to highlight how correct Lin is about it. I could buy Autumn acting naively dismissive, but Maria seemed off.

Even today, true causes of conflict are obfuscated for political gain by one faction or another, so the story one hears from memory may not be the entire story depending on where its heard from, and obviously the official history makes the winning side look the best it can. Capturing that uncertainty of events described between the three (with a slight tilt toward Lin being more right because she is herself a primary source on many events) would have elevated that scene without making two of the girls into jackasses.

There is some nuance established earlier in the world-building (elves were not on the continent before humans, it isn't really confirmed whether humans were the initial aggressors in the war between humans and elves, similar to how one of the real life Crusades started because Orthodox Christian land in Anatolia had been conquered by the Seljuks). Whatever did happen, the elves lost that war, and the present day humans in this universe, despite having beyond modern technology, have early 20th century sensibilities on conquest and sentient rights, and the game takes place amidst such a social environment.

But like I said, I'm a fapper from the Internet, not the writer and developer of the game. I could be off with the intended message, or reading into it too much.

 

[DudeGuy69]

Are there plans to make more old scenes viewable in the scene gallery? I just did Kate's new events and she mentioned a shower scene I have absolutely no recollection of and I want to see it now. Also A+++ on the Kate events, I feel like the side cast is starting to get better than the main cast for me XD

 

[Jjay08]

I wish the museum scene contained more subtlety in the world-building and (especially) character interactions to make the allegory in a more insightful and less condescending way, but I'm just some fapper on the Internet. And to be fair, Hollywood hasn't done any better.

What do you mean insightful?

 

[Jjay08]

Are there plans to make more old scenes viewable in the scene gallery? I just did Kate's new events and she mentioned a shower scene I have absolutely no recollection of and I want to see it now. Also A+++ on the Kate events, I feel like the side cast is starting to get better than the main cast for me XD

Right? I get her way more now, which what I think was intended. I didn't think of her as stupid by any means. I thought she was rather clever and maybe overly analytical at worst. After the second new event I feel much closer to her, as a fellow nerodivergent person.

 

[Macgamer]

You don't have to do the exhibition stuff, enless it's apart of their story. I don't touch it at all. Maria does it on her own quite a bit but that's her.

Not doing any exhibition stuff leave hardly any content. I was not to happy how Vanessa turned out at all in this newest version. But seems that all this game is about now. Reminds me of the game "Corruption" which I stopped playing. Parading your girls around for other men just makes me sick lol.

 

[Jjay08]

Not doing any exhibition stuff leave hardly any content. I was not to happy how Vanessa turned out at all in this newest version. But seems that all this game is about now. Reminds me of the game "Corruption" which I stopped playing. Parading your girls around for other men just makes me sick lol.

They parade around for other girls too but I see what you're getting that. But remember this is a porn game and will show off any girls as much as possible. If I was to guess, i'd say you are a girl too and don't like them being presented that way. I sympathize a bit,

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[tunknownusert]

Anyone by chance have a fix for making the textboxes (and box border) transparent? The usual file i load in to the game directory seems to have no affect so I'm guessing there is some other bit of code by the game dev which takes precedence. Tried a quick and dirty change on the 00style.rpy file but that just threw warning and resulted in no change. Any suggestions are appreciated.

 

[Runey]

Monarchs can go to hell. It seems deeper than that, though.

I interpreted the Republic of Caliber formation world-building to be an allegory for the American Revolution (independence from the Capitol being independence from the British Empire) with a bit of the French Revolution (King Michael = Louis XVI) for flavor, and the elves as American chattel slaves. The allegory I refer to is the obvious contradiction of the origin myth of Liberalism overtaking Monarchy when masters and slaves still exist under the same system of laws. It's an interesting idea to play off different perspectives of the Republic of Caliber origin myth with a history buff who knows the story of the victors (Maria), a devout who knows the story as framed in religious scripture (Autumn), and someone who knows how the story as was known at the time it happened by the losing side because she was alive at the time (Lin), though both Maria and Autumn (neither of whom are characteristically unempathetic) are played for as uncaring fools in just this scene to highlight how correct Lin is about it. I could buy Autumn acting naively dismissive, but Maria seemed off.

Even today, true causes of conflict are obfuscated for political gain by one faction or another, so the story one hears from memory may not be the entire story depending on where its heard from, and obviously the official history makes the winning side look the best it can. Capturing that uncertainty of events described between the three (with a slight tilt toward Lin being more right because she is herself a primary source on many events) would have elevated that scene without making two of the girls into jackasses.

The American Revolution does not have much to do with Harem Hotel actually. This may not be clear in game, so I'll clarify it here.

The pope (or some fantasy title equivalent) wanted to spread his religion across the world. When they attempted this, they found Syl'anar. After they manifested their destiny, all across Syl'anar, human kingdoms replaced the elvish ones. At this point, Syl'anar was a shattered nation of Kingdoms, which slowly turned into an empire. That empire turned into a democratic republic when a form of the industrial revolution began on Syl'anar.

There wasn't a war of independence, and Syl'anar didn't start off as a republic. An empire just evolved into a republic. There were also no civil wars in Syl'anar, unless you count slaves rising up three times. The roots of the empire are still deep in Syl'anar.

It is also my intention to show Maria, and especially Autumn to be ignorant here. Just to show how everyone sees things. These things they're ignorant about will be understood by them at some point. Like Maria recently says in her latest events... "I never hated elves, but I always saw them as... them. Not us. This slavery situation is a lot more bullshit when you realize it was never 'them' or 'me'. It was always 'us'." (paraphrased)"

There is some nuance established earlier in the world-building (elves were not on the continent before humans, it isn't really confirmed whether humans were the initial aggressors in the war between humans and elves, similar to how one of the real life Crusades started because Orthodox Christian land in Anatolia had been conquered by the Seljuks). Whatever did happen, the elves lost that war, and the present day humans in this universe, despite having beyond modern technology, have early 20th century sensibilities on conquest and sentient rights, and the game takes place amidst such a social environment.

But like I said, I'm a fapper from the Internet, not the writer and developer of the game. I could be off with the intended message, or reading into it too much.

Exactly. The winners write history, so I wanted it to be confusing at the beginning, and almost feel like it was the Elves' fault. (Lin first believed Elves invaded Syl'anar, somehow, with pointy sticks.) But as I said earlier in this post, the Pope and his crusaders were the invaders.

I appreciate you taking this seriously \o/

 

[Runey]

Not doing any exhibition stuff leave hardly any content. I was not to happy how Vanessa turned out at all in this newest version. But seems that all this game is about now. Reminds me of the game "Corruption" which I stopped playing. Parading your girls around for other men just makes me sick lol.

There are over 800 scenes in this game, and there are 4 exhibitionism scenes per character. 8 for Autumn. That's 36 scenes out of over 800. That is precisely 4.5% of the game. Exhibitionism is only a fraction of this game. You can just not click the Exhibitionism training. If you don't like a side character such as Vanessa, you don't have to do their story either. It's optional. Why do you click optional things you don't like? Don't subject yourself to this.

Anyone by chance have a fix for making the textboxes (and box border) transparent? The usual file i load in to the game directory seems to have no affect so I'm guessing there is some other bit of code by the game dev which takes precedence. Tried a quick and dirty change on the 00style.rpy file but that just threw warning and resulted in no change. Any suggestions are appreciated.

You can change the dialogue UI and the background music in the info tab in the pause menu.

 

[Zaeth026]

I fell in love with this game and trust me I would totally support Runey if I were not a broke 3rd world man...

That being said I can't run the game in joiplay and I know he and all of you guys are tired of this question but is there a way to play it in Android again? I know Lain did something but the links are dead.

 

[born2beaclone]

So a few things I tried and broke:
- Patron code for the sisters does not work (invalid cheatcode)
- Patron code for Ashley makes her never joined the Hotel ("no one lives here... yet")
- (As a result of the above) you can't improve Ashley's friendship to progress with F&E path
- (To bypass the above) I used Ren'Py Save Editor to change Ash's friendship and two problems occurred:
+ Friendship stat got too high and warnings pop up.
+ Quickmenu at the bottom disappears.

Edit: removed patron codes per Runey's.

 

[Zeph3r]

I'm still getting the warning regarding the android's story events not being completed, just want to clear up if the 2 story events listed in the patch notes are regarding the remade past story events or if they are new ones?

 

[Runey]

I fell in love with this game and trust me I would totally support Runey if I were not a broke 3rd world man...

That being said I can't run the game in joiplay and I know he and all of you guys are tired of this question but is there a way to play it in Android again? I know Lain did something but the links are dead.

Of course. Did you read the android installation instructions in the OP? Don't download the joiplay version I warn you about. It doesn't work.

...

Please don't share patron codes. Those ones are old and don't work anyway.

 

[Runey]

I'm still getting the warning regarding the android's story events not being completed, just want to clear up if the 2 story events listed in the patch notes are regarding the remade past story events or if they are new ones?

Thanks for reporting this, I forgot to delete it (this was never reported as a bug).