Runey

Harem Hotel
Game Developer
May 17, 2018
3,965
20,015
So I did find an issue related to Sylvia. I can't go to the sanctuary without an error

```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While loading <'Image' u'elvesylvia_idle.png'>:
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 531, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
Exception: Could not load image u'elvesylvia_idle.png': error('Error reading the PNG file.',)

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "script.rpyc", line 12633, in script call
File "scripts/lobby_script.rpyc", line 194, in script call
File "scripts/bar.rpyc", line 190, in script call
File "scripts/lobby_script.rpyc", line 194, in script call
File "scripts/lobby_script.rpyc", line 194, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 5864, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 28093, in script call
File "scripts/bar.rpyc", line 190, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 11179, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 5864, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 12476, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 13181, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 13181, in script call
File "script.rpyc", line 13131, in script
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1947, in execute
self.call("execute")
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1935, in call
return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\statements.py", line 277, in call
return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 531, in execute_call_screen
store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\exports.py", line 2896, in call_screen
rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse="screen", type="screen", roll_forward=roll_forward)
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\ui.py", line 295, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 2699, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, **kwargs)
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 3191, in interact_core
self.draw_screen(root_widget, fullscreen_video, (not fullscreen_video) or video_frame_drawn)
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 2091, in draw_screen
renpy.config.screen_height,
File "render.pyx", line 546, in renpy.display.render.render_screen
File "render.pyx", line 247, in renpy.display.render.render
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 154, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 247, in renpy.display.render.render
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 154, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 247, in renpy.display.render.render
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 154, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 247, in renpy.display.render.render
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\screen.py", line 675, in render
child = renpy.display.render.render(self.child, w, h, st, at)
File "render.pyx", line 154, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 247, in renpy.display.render.render
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 722, in render
surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
File "render.pyx", line 154, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 247, in renpy.display.render.render
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 763, in render
rv = super(Button, self).render(width, height, st, at)
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 1127, in render
st, at)
File "render.pyx", line 154, in renpy.display.render.render
File "render.pyx", line 247, in renpy.display.render.render
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\im.py", line 584, in render
return cache.get(self, render=True)
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\im.py", line 266, in get
surf = image.load()
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\im.py", line 629, in load
surf = renpy.display.pgrender.load_image(renpy.loader.load(self.filename), self.filename)
File "D:\Software Application Manual\Nahimic UserGuide\n\Harem_Hotel-v0.14-pc\renpy\display\pgrender.py", line 162, in load_image
raise Exception("Could not load image {!r}: {!r}".format(filename, e))
Exception: Could not load image u'elvesylvia_idle.png': error('Error reading the PNG file.',)

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.2.320
Harem Hotel v0.14
Mon Dec 13 16:12:00 2021
```
This seems to be an error specific to your game. Corruption of installing incorrectly likely lead to this. You can install the update patch to fix this issue.
 

RoadWulf

Forum Fanatic
Nov 18, 2018
4,109
8,209
I'm not to sure on how to respond to this, but I'll try to be as diplomatic and non-confrontational as possible.

There was about three or so hours of new content in this update; revamped scenes from earlier in the game, an expanded gallery, advancement of several storylines, events with each girl, new lust scenes for the droid, Emma & Felicity in the dungeon together, twins pin-ups, a dating/Affection system...

It was a sizable lengthy update and one that I found very enjoyable. I guess we each have our own idea about what makes an update worth it, and we most certainly disagree on it.

Post Edit; 1100th post like. Thank you spacekun, fitting that it was a "facepalm." To me, that only means that my post was dead on target.
It wasn't 3 hours, I was done in 1 an a half. if. Secondly, it doesn't matter how much is done to the system or earlier scenes, it's about the amount of content beyond the current save that really matters. And in terms of forward content, there wasn't much. Yes, several of the scenes were longer, but every one of the current storylines was just "teased". There was no real concrete momentum in any of them, just a lot of set up for the future. That's what I found irritating. They were all setups and none of them were continued. Like the Android's, "I'll need a few days for the transfer", you'd expect from how her story has worked in the past that you'd wait a few days and it'd auto trigger. Instead it was the end of her story.

So you can spend time on stuff from earlier in the game, you add or revise scenes, you can change systems and expand the gallery, but those are things you could release in a non-content update. A content update should be focused on just that, or you end up with a Half-length update like this one.
 

TheDevian

Svengali Productions
Game Developer
Mar 8, 2018
14,906
35,159
It wasn't 3 hours, I was done in 1 an a half. if. Secondly, it doesn't matter how much is done to the system or earlier scenes, it's about the amount of content beyond the current save that really matters. And in terms of forward content, there wasn't much. Yes, several of the scenes were longer, but every one of the current storylines was just "teased". There was no real concrete momentum in any of them, just a lot of set up for the future. That's what I found irritating. They were all setups and none of them were continued. Like the Android's, "I'll need a few days for the transfer", you'd expect from how her story has worked in the past that you'd wait a few days and it'd auto trigger. Instead it was the end of her story.

So you can spend time on stuff from earlier in the game, you add or revise scenes, you can change systems and expand the gallery, but those are things you could release in a non-content update. A content update should be focused on just that, or you end up with a Half-length update like this one.
To be fair, the lust and dating systems are quite a lot.
 

Deleted member 4298851

Well-Known Member
Oct 27, 2021
1,761
2,366
It wasn't 3 hours, I was done in 1 an a half. if. Secondly, it doesn't matter how much is done to the system or earlier scenes, it's about the amount of content beyond the current save that really matters. And in terms of forward content, there wasn't much. Yes, several of the scenes were longer, but every one of the current storylines was just "teased". There was no real concrete momentum in any of them, just a lot of set up for the future. That's what I found irritating. They were all setups and none of them were continued. Like the Android's, "I'll need a few days for the transfer", you'd expect from how her story has worked in the past that you'd wait a few days and it'd auto trigger. Instead it was the end of her story.

So you can spend time on stuff from earlier in the game, you add or revise scenes, you can change systems and expand the gallery, but those are things you could release in a non-content update. A content update should be focused on just that, or you end up with a Half-length update like this one.
Everybody has their own pace and everybody looks at what they want to look at. There's a lot to do. A lot to read. the dating system dialogue is enough especially if you start from the beginning and see how the dates and the dialogue evolve from there.

I'm not getting into a pissing contest about this or that and the amount of time it takes to finish the update. I like the update. Others don't.

I'm satisfied with the update. some are not. Fine. Your prerogative. Be picky and choosy all you want. I've played nice with people over the last day or two, but I'm tired of hearing about update bitching. I think Runey did a good job on it, and it was worth the wait The rest of you can cry in your coffee all you want.

I'll just hit the Ignore button and happily go about my night.
 

jamdan

Forum Fanatic
Sep 28, 2018
4,424
24,124
This game has several types of content. If that makes sense.

You have story content. When you talk to the girls and advance their stories.
You have repeatable sex scenes content. All the repeatable sex positions and activities in the different outfits. The lust system too.
You have the dating & hanging out content. Watching TV, going to the café or the beach etc.

I think RoadWulf is talking about story content. Most of this update was on non-story content. The dating system, lust system and that sort of thing. So, if you don't care for that stuff the update was on the shorter side.
 

Deleted member 4298851

Well-Known Member
Oct 27, 2021
1,761
2,366
This game has several types of content. If that makes sense.

You have story content. When you talk to the girls and advance their stories.
You have repeatable sex scenes content. All the repeatable sex positions and activities in the different outfits. The lust system too.
You have the dating & hanging out content. Hanging out at the beach, going to the café or the beach etc.

I think RoadWulf is talking about story content. Most of this update was on non-story content. The dating system, lust system and that sort of thing. So, if you don't care for that stuff the update was on the shorter side.
Some people expect too much. Some people are happy with what they get, and others won't be satisfied no matter what you give them.

I said my piece, others will say theirs. I get not every update is going to be stellar, or full of content a player might want, but let's just be happy we're getting them. Instead of waiting 10 months or OVER two years for updates for other games to come out.

Be happy with what you get or cry in the corner and move on. I'm happy with it. Others are too, but there's always going to be that one person here and there who's never satisfied.
 

AdmiralNobody

Member
Aug 6, 2016
112
377
Has anyone else encountered the bug where Ellen has disappeared from the lobby, but whenever you click on the desk, door behind desk or revisit the lobby her name pops up saying you have an email? It's persisted since the last version on my save I believe.
 

Deleted member 929426

Well-Known Member
Oct 5, 2018
1,186
2,079
Has anyone else encountered the bug where Ellen has disappeared from the lobby, but whenever you click on the desk, door behind desk or revisit the lobby her name pops up saying you have an email? It's persisted since the last version on my save I believe.
Have you tried checking the other rooms to see if she's there (especially downstairs)?
 

Deleted member 4298851

Well-Known Member
Oct 27, 2021
1,761
2,366
Has anyone else encountered the bug where Ellen has disappeared from the lobby, but whenever you click on the desk, door behind desk or revisit the lobby her name pops up saying you have an email? It's persisted since the last version on my save I believe.
Check the laundry room or the hot springs first (most likely the hot springs), and see what happens. If she's not there, then it's probably a bug. I never personally had that one though.
 

AdmiralNobody

Member
Aug 6, 2016
112
377
Have you tried checking the other rooms to see if she's there (especially downstairs)?
Check the laundry room or the hot springs first (most likely the hot springs), and see what happens. If she's not there, then it's probably a bug. I never personally had that one though.
I'm an absolute idiot and somehow didn't check the hot spring - which looks to have instantly solved the issue. God damn I feel stupid now.

Many thanks!
 
Jan 4, 2020
91
183
What does everyone think of the new repeatable date content? I know it's not exactly primary content, but I think it can make the game feel a lot deeper and like less of a grind.

It might be hard to notice unless you pay attention, but the locations are random and unlock throughout the story. And dialogue can be completely different depending on stats and friendship levels, so some things will only be seen on a fresh play through.

Lin and Android will probably get dates at some point as well \o/
I thought it was a clever way to add depth and characterization without much grind. You could easily use the same mechanic for the elves ("missions" instead of "dates", or some such).
 

Eternalm88

Newbie
May 5, 2020
37
22
Is there any way for the gallery to take into consideration current stats, or just assume max stats? It's too bad that there are a bunch of scenes that they only way I can replay them is to replay the entire game, or make a bunch of saves.
 

Runey

Harem Hotel
Game Developer
May 17, 2018
3,965
20,015
This game has several types of content. If that makes sense.

You have story content. When you talk to the girls and advance their stories.
You have repeatable sex scenes content. All the repeatable sex positions and activities in the different outfits. The lust system too.
You have the dating & hanging out content. Watching TV, going to the café or the beach etc.

I think RoadWulf is talking about story content. Most of this update was on non-story content. The dating system, lust system and that sort of thing. So, if you don't care for that stuff the update was on the shorter side.
v0.13 was the biggest story update I've ever released. v0.14 would probably be somewhere in the top 5. I've been putting in extra work and time into these updates recently, and it's a shame that some people don't see that.

I try to make story events around 15 minutes long on average now, some will go to 30+. This depends on your reading speed, but I'd say that's pretty good. I don't play other porn games though, so I can't compare.

If I hadn't worked on the dates, that work probably would have went into freestyle sex and remade repeatable scenes with outfits for every main character. 1 - 2 story events for each main character is normal. This is the first and only time I've heard that comment in a very long time though.
 

Runey

Harem Hotel
Game Developer
May 17, 2018
3,965
20,015
Is there any way for the gallery to take into consideration current stats, or just assume max stats? It's too bad that there are a bunch of scenes that they only way I can replay them is to replay the entire game, or make a bunch of saves.
Not that I know of.
 

fdragonx7

Member
Jan 7, 2018
166
183
i can play scenes like lin being pissed at them fine, but i cannot interact with sylvia or nia, if i try it errors then kicks me to ann in the shared room and i can only escape by passing time
 
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