VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

[Deleted member 2755092]

At that point, the grind is up to you isn't it? If you don't particularly enjoy anal, there's no need to get the anal stat. If you do like anal, then getting the trait likely wouldn't feel like a grind, right? Players can even mix it up with outfits so it's a bit more interesting. The anal trait isn't a requirement for story, just more anal content.

Aye, individually, sure. But, many of us I think, will try to get everything maxed out, because there's always a chance at some point, that fetish might need to be superior to an unknown X number or something like that, and well, some of us do like our sluts to be well trained in all aspects . I agree it is our choice to do it, but considering the humongous amount of content and character there is, it does take a long time
For standard stuff (sex, anal, blowjobs), it's not too bad, since once you've unlocked them you usually can do them several times a day, but "more specialized things", like the ones only available on beach events if memory serves, can only be done once (maybe twice) a day. I ended up giving up myself, and just editing the stats to complete a few of them.

Are you saying the sex number doesn't increase when cumming on them? Or the cum dump stat doesn't raise when cumming on them? Wherever this bug happens, please let me know and I will fix it.

Yes that's exactly that. I believe it was on all sex events (anal and vaginal), I could be wrong, but I think it was in the dungeon that it did not increase, but I could be wrong there.

I am not sure how that would look. But I think it's important to also keep the length of the game in mind.

Here, I'll tell you where my mind is that, let me know what you think:
Let's say a player really enjoys anal. They're going to discover fairly early on that Lin has a fetish for Anal, I imagine the player would experience the repeatable at least once or twice after seeing the story event, which lands them at 3 anal points for Lin. Throug continuing her story and playing the game, the player will unlock new outfits, and wish to reexperience the content they enjoy with a new flavor, which will likely increase the stat 1 - 3 more times. Then more characters will unlock, this player would likely play the other anal content, and eventually come back for Lin's later on because it's been a while and maybe they want the trait. At this point, Lin's anal stat is probably around 5 - 7 already, all while around friendship 20 - 30 for Lin (and reminder, this is mostly assumptions based on feedback). By this time, more outfits will be available, and maybe you'll even see these options appear in story events or dungeon events, or exhibitionism events, which include unique animations for that stat. So the player may find themselves very close to that 10 point mark just through passively experiencing the game and playing the story.

But maybe some of my assumptions are off, it's possible. Maybe something like 7 points instead of 10 would fit nicer. Harem Hotel has required 10 for a very long time though and it has seemed like 10 has been a very solid number this whole time, and more content is always being included. There should be a few different animations with different themes for each sexual option in the future.

This goes back with my reply above, for the "standard stuff" that can be done more than once a day, it's ok enough I recon. But the more exotic things, on some characters, can take a while to do. I think it was the footjob and handjob events on the beach that took me a while to do, with the characters going to school/work and so on, the event I think is not even available everyday if I'm not mistaken.
You may only need to look at the special events (cafe/exhib/beach), I'm pretty sure those are the only ones really taking longer than the rest.

 

[Runey]

Aye, individually, sure. But, many of us I think, will try to get everything maxed out, because there's always a chance at some point, that fetish might need to be superior to an unknown X number or something like that, and well, some of us do like our sluts to be well trained in all aspects . I agree it is our choice to do it, but considering the humongous amount of content and character there is, it does take a long time
For standard stuff (sex, anal, blowjobs), it's not too bad, since once you've unlocked them you usually can do them several times a day, but "more specialized things", like the ones only available on beach events if memory serves, can only be done once (maybe twice) a day. I ended up giving up myself, and just editing the stats to complete a few of them.


Yes that's exactly that. I believe it was on all sex events (anal and vaginal), I could be wrong, but I think it was in the dungeon that it did not increase, but I could be wrong there.


This goes back with my reply above, for the "standard stuff" that can be done more than once a day, it's ok enough I recon. But the more exotic things, on some characters, can take a while to do. I think it was the footjob and handjob events on the beach that took me a while to do, with the characters going to school/work and so on, the event I think is not even available everyday if I'm not mistaken.
You may only need to look at the special events (cafe/exhib/beach), I'm pretty sure those are the only ones really taking longer than the rest.

I can see why handjobs and footjobs would be harder, because that content is barely used and mostly can only be found in one spot. Passively getting those is probably impossible. That content also doesn't unlock anything at all, so it's actually fairly pointless to level up the handjob or footjob stats for the trait alone. But content at the cafe or beach is available any time the character is, and any time any of their other sexual options are. Characters being unavailable is a game mechanic to incentivize you to do other things, like advance another character's story.

 

[Deleted member 2755092]

I can see why handjobs and footjobs would be harder, because that content is barely used and mostly can only be found in one spot.

May I kindly suggest to increase the points gained for it then? Since it'll have no impact, other than you know....

 

[shadowtempered]

Thanks for the report, I'll look into it.
In your replay, you haven't found yourself stuck at all?
How about the stats? Did they feel nice to level up, for the ones you wanted to level up?

The best feedback would be from a new player who first experiences this, but all feedback is great to know.

I wasn't stuck at all - I've played the game before but I don't have jack shit memorized. Did some minor day skipping to get the bar asap, but otherwise I just talk / visit and followed the instructions given. Not being able to buy the android human kit early was weird but when the game specifically said "buy it", I did and continued with no issues.

Grinding basic sex stats isn't really an issue to me outside of specifically isolated encounters; most girls have 2-3 available slots in the day and once far enough can be visited at night for a 3rd/4th visit. Specific scenes like Autumn's shower boob-job for example, I don't remember if she has one now, or Kali's exhibition cunnilingus scene. While I'm in no rush to grind a stat out in 1 day, the fact they can get tied up with their schedules (being at work, twins being at school, exploring the hotel) can limit the speed to max it out. (or in Autumn's case, she only showers once a week :/)

Personally? Don't care, there's no point in rushing it. Other than getting Lin ready for story related events with Cromwell which isn't forcibly timed. The only stat that is annoying to level (personal opinion) is exhibition and only because if you don't start it quickly/early enough you can miss minor scene tweaks you've added (I think I missed every Android/Ashley public nudity option thus far). This "forced" me to grind out exhibition for every girl available, just so I wouldn't miss things later.

Personal suggestions? A "room" button that takes you back to your room instead of having to use other navigation routes. The ability to call girls to your room for sexy time just as we do for going to sleep with someone. Other than early game money (which is solved by progressing with Kali, but new players won't know this), the game is extremely well polished and I have no real complaints other than you're not a physical machine who can crank out daily content.

 

[freedom.call]

I think every event should autostart, clicking around in a sandbox game makes no sense!

 

[Deleted member 929426]

I think every event should autostart, clicking around in a sandbox game makes no sense!

TBH, I'm not a fan of the events that autostart. I much prefer being able to choose who's event I want to do when.

 

[freedom.call]

TBH, I'm not a fan of the events that autostart. I much prefer being able to choose who's event I want to do when.

I don't like the ones in the morning tbh, they pretty much always come when I have other plans.

 

[Deleted member 929426]

I don't like the ones in the morning tbh, they pretty much always come when I have other plans.

Same. They always have a bad habit of happening on the days I want to take a shower.

 

[freedom.call]

Same. They always have a bad habit of happening on the days I want to take a shower.

Yeah. Even so I wouldn't change a thing, just to make that clear. I have to take Saturday's off from fucking to make sure my Sunday morning schedule is clear. It's a hard life.

 

[TheDevian]

At that point, the grind is up to you isn't it? If you don't particularly enjoy anal, there's no need to get the anal stat. If you do like anal, then getting the trait likely wouldn't feel like a grind, right? Players can even mix it up with outfits so it's a bit more interesting. The anal trait isn't a requirement for story, just more anal content.

Here, I'll tell you where my mind is that, let me know what you think:
Let's say a player really enjoys anal. They're going to discover fairly early on that Lin has a fetish for Anal, I imagine the player would experience the repeatable at least once or twice after seeing the story event, which lands them at 3 anal points for Lin. Throug continuing her story and playing the game, the player will unlock new outfits, and wish to reexperience the content they enjoy with a new flavor, which will likely increase the stat 1 - 3 more times. Then more characters will unlock, this player would likely play the other anal content, and eventually come back for Lin's later on because it's been a while and maybe they want the trait. At this point, Lin's anal stat is probably around 5 - 7 already, all while around friendship 20 for Lin (and reminder, this is mostly assumptions based on feedback). By this time, more outfits will be available, and maybe you'll even see these options appear in story events or dungeon events, or exhibitionism events, which include unique animations for that stat. So the player may find themselves very close to that 10 point mark just through passively experiencing the game and playing the story at around friendship 30 if not sooner.

There are a few that I skip like that that I don't like (foot job, femdom), and I am kind of indifferent on on thigh jobs, they are fun as foreplay, before you start having sex, or something like that, so I don't feel the grind there.
The only ones that really feel grindy are the lust events, because you have to do the level 9 events to get the point, but the others are just more fun to me (well, I guess Autumn's boobjob does a bit too, since it is so limited... it's been almost 9 months, and I am still only at 32... I keep hoping you will give us another option, like her morning alarm or something), so that takes a lot of time and work to get.

With Kali and Lin, I did grind them up to 3 stars (50), but it was a chore, since it is generally the level 6 events that have things I like, but you don't get a point for that. As you know, I love the public events, like the Papa Ron's and public walk ones. While I do enjoy Kali's rape fetish, that one seems too much like she is the one in charge, it's too much like Femdom for me, and there is just something lacking from Lin's for me, like, she needs a spanking first or something as foreplay, after breaking things like that!

By the time I got to Maria's, it just seemed like so much work, I couldn't bring myself to do it again. Like I said before, to me, the best way to do this is to make triggering any of the events give a point, even if it requires getting to level 9 once to unlock the stat for the first time.

But maybe some of my assumptions are off, it's possible. Maybe something like 7 points instead of 10 would fit nicer. Harem Hotel has required 10 for a very long time though and it has seemed like 10 has been a very solid number this whole time, and more content is always being included. There should be a few different animations with different themes for each sexual option in the future.

I think 10 is fine there, it is more intuitive.

I would likely go with 10, 25, and 50, to keep it more evenly progressive. First level is +10, second one is +15, third one is +25. Currently, it goes 10, 30, and 50, which is +10, +20, +20.

 

[TheDevian]

TBH, I'm not a fan of the events that autostart. I much prefer being able to choose who's event I want to do when.

It's really bad if you load an old save to check something, and you have to go through all the auto events from that save to current before you can do what you wanted to do, by then I will have forgotten why I started the game in the first place... XD

Same. They always have a bad habit of happening on the days I want to take a shower.

Or worse, HEADPAT LIN!!!!!!!!!

 

[Deleted member 929426]

It's really bad if you load an old save to check something, and you have to go through all the auto events from that save to current before you can do what you wanted to do, by then I will have forgotten why I started the game in the first place... XD

Or worse, HEADPAT LIN!!!!!!!!!
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Nothing bothers me more than having to wait an entire day to give Lin her headpats because one or more of the other girls are demanding my attention.

 

[High_Imperceptor]

The only stat that is annoying to level (personal opinion) is exhibition and only because if you don't start it quickly/early enough you can miss minor scene tweaks you've added (I think I missed every Android/Ashley public nudity option thus far). This "forced" me to grind out exhibition for every girl available, just so I wouldn't miss things later.

I mostly agree with the user I'm quoting, but I want to piggyback off of this part specifically. The only part/stat that isn't telegraphed very well is Exhibitionism training actually impacting an upcoming event, until you are in the event and the button is grayed out. I restarted for 0.14, because I generally like seeing what older content has been remade, and have had to stop several characters just to grind Exhibitionism out to make sure I don't miss anything. This isn't too much of a problem for most of the girls, but given the first events impacted by it tend to be in the 18-22ish Friendship range, that actually means the tightest grinding space is Ashley, due to her series of events locking out access to her room when you need to meet her at school.

It's not core story being missed at all, just bonus content options, but it *is* one of the few points where I had been relying on the walkthrough mod previously to remember where I need to hold off progressing to not miss something.

 

[freedom.call]

Nothing bothers me more than having to wait an entire day to give Lin her headpats because one or more of the other girls are demanding my attention.

Is headpat lust a thing? Probably should be a thing.

 

[Deleted member 929426]

Is headpat lust a thing? Probably should be a thing.

I wonder what would happen if you weren't able to give Lin a headpat for an entire week. I worry that it'd bring on the start of the End Times.

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

Is headpat lust a thing? Probably should be a thing.

I wonder what would happen if you weren't able to give Lin a headpat for an entire week. I worry that it'd bring on the start of the End Times.

Oh it's definitely a thing...

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I don't want to even think of the barbarity that would happen without Lin head-pats for a full week. Nope.NOT THINKING IT!!!!

I love my beautiful little elf girl way too much.

 

[Evil13]

"Only good girls get headpats. And you've been a very, very naughty girl."

 

[TheDevian]

I wonder what would happen if you weren't able to give Lin a headpat for an entire week. I worry that it'd bring on the start of the End Times.

While I have come close to that between new events auto triggering, her new shower scene taking all morning, her Wednesdays off, and whatnot, thanks to the new psudo headpat system, we never have to truly have to do without completely. It's not the same, but it's still pretty nice.

"Only good girls get headpats. And you've been a very, very naughty girl."

Good girls get headpats, bad girls get hard buttpats. XD

 

[Deleted member 4298851]

While I have come close to that between new events auto triggering, her new shower scene taking all morning, her Wednesdays off, and whatnot, thanks to the new psudo headpat system, we never have to truly have to do without completely. It's not the same, but it's still pretty nice.

Good girls get headpats, bad girls get hard buttpats. XD

Wait!!! She has a NEW shower scene?!?!?!

Are you fucking kidding me?!?

 

[Evil13]

Good girls get headpats, bad girls get hard buttpats. XD

Nah, bad girls get anal.