Runey

Harem Hotel
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At Runey: That you started putting the new content into separate folder helped a lot. Thanks.
As I see the direct content of the game I have a question for some time now. I know you did some trials to make animations as clips (.webm)
What was the result? I know you dropped it as there are only single pictures in the recent updates and no more clips. I would be interested why? I was expecting that a clip has a smaller files size compared to 34 single quality images. I see sometimes people complain about the game size and with 10GB it is a goliath for an VN. I have fast internet and a Mega account so it is not a problem for me, it is just that I am interested in why the experiment with .webm failed.
Renpy can't handle webms well at all. Each time it loops, it will stutter. And each time it stutters, the stutter gets even worse. With raw frames only, the stuttering doesn't occur and the quality is as best as can be. (By the way, the animations are mostly all 24 frames)

But the only thing reduced was the sex needed in the story driven parts, since there is still a lot of sex but it now it is on the side and optional as new repeatable content.

If someone started the game and was hoping for a simple sex simulator then I guess at the beginning they were getting what they were hoping for. Especially if you skipped text you had sex scene after sex scene really quick. But after some time when you get involved with the girls and they bring their lives and problems into your life, it changes a lot. In the story driven parts that are needed to progress there is much more text (and with that time needed) between ich porn scene.
A lot of optional sex is added now, but that is also in addition to sex in the story. This equates to more sexual content than was ever added in previous versions. Not only do I still aim for 1 lewd story event every 3 - 4 non-lewd story events (as was preferred by the players), I also add in content like Lust, Exhibitionism, and Dungeon content. As well as new repeatables which constantly get unlocked in the story, and Freestyle mode. The stories have certainly gotten longer, but it is a shame that some people don't see the extra work I put in.


Story relevant for progress has now a lot less sex. For example, the trip to the high elv island took a lot of time and you only had one sex animation with the Queen. The trip to the desert elvs took also some time but has no sex animations. We also have now required story parts like the stories with the land elv queen. A lot to read but no animation.
But there were a lot sex animations added each time. As I mentioned I check the new added content directly and there always are a lot of sex animations. You are just not forced to see them as they are added as side options like dungeons, outfits and so on. If you only progress the main stories you don’t see them. If you use a Mod it will only show you what you need to do to progress the game. It does not tell you that you can now invite XX into the dungeon.
The boat trip to Syl'iath had two sex scenes. One with Lin on the boat, and one with the high elf queen. I also don't believe that content is specifically required for any other stories.

For my part I like all the character’s and the game turned out to be a great mix of story and ero.
For me it is like a book where I always want to know what happens next but also has stimulating animated visuals.

For people who really only want to have the sex and as little text as possible I would suggest to try to use Honey Select directly. It is also offered here in the forum.
With that you can have sex with only girls you chose and positions you decided. You can also change the angle and view to your preference. This is really not for offence but only as suggestion for people who tont know it.
Exactly, this is what some people - specifically only on this website - expect from apparently every game on this website.

Which may I remind everyone that this is a pirate website, people are probably here with the intent to take things for free which cost money, if you don't like something just move on, it's free either way and highly unlikely you were ever going to support the developers anyway. (But here some of us still are, interacting with you). Some people on this website are the most spoiled people I've seen. They want their cake and want to eat it all too.

Anyway, there are plenty of games here for everyone, all of them are different. Mine happens to include a lot of story comparatively. Honey Select is good for a fuckathon game like you mentioned.

And thanks for your feedback :)
 

TheDevian

Svengali Productions
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Renpy can't handle webms well at all. Each time it loops, it will stutter. And each time it stutters, the stutter gets even worse. With raw frames only, the stuttering doesn't occur and the quality is as best as can be. (By the way, the animations are mostly all 24 frames)
Sadly, this is the same in Unity (at least with any of the video controllers we have tried).
Why are the Mediafire and gofile download links from patreon not in the OP?
Because the OP make their own links (reuploaded), and did not use Runey's.
 
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Vanderer

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A question:
Are there any mechanics or other things you think could be improved about HH?
Using the mod in Honey select that permit you to open up the girls pussy lips would be great. Right now it looks like the penis is clipping through the girl.

It's not a big deal mind you, and my only real "complaint".(if you can call it that.)
The rest of the game is very good for the genre. And I really appreciate the UI improvments you made.
 

shadowtempered

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A question:
Are there any mechanics or other things you think could be improved about HH?
Webcams. As is, they're there by default which kinda makes the MC a creeper since (going from memory) he doesn't tell anyone they are there, though multiple ladies notice. My suggestion would be to "remove" them and add them in as part of the exhibition stat. It gives you an extra minor money sink to buy one per lady, gives them a reason for it to be in their room and helps build on the whole "someone is watching and it excites me" that starts with the person they trust the most vs random goons at a beach/cafe.

I honestly forgot they existed for a while there.
 

jimmyjoo

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Anyone know how to raise Android at relationship level 25? There's no option to talk to her at her room and two other character's storylines are locked behind this.
 

jimmyjoo

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A question:
Are there any mechanics or other things you think could be improved about HH?
I feel like some kind of limited hint system would be beneficial. I just posted an issue that I'm having getting Android's relationship level past 25 and there are no obvious trigger hints available. I'm guessing there's some kind of event elsewhere hanging this up, but I have no idea what.
 

shadowtempered

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Anyone know how to raise Android at relationship level 25? There's no option to talk to her at her room and two other character's storylines are locked behind this.
If you went out to eat with her and she had the negative eating experience, you should buy her human kit.


I feel like some kind of limited hint system would be beneficial. I just posted an issue that I'm having getting Android's relationship level past 25 and there are no obvious trigger hints available. I'm guessing there's some kind of event elsewhere hanging this up, but I have no idea what.
My initial response to this is that you're clicking text boxes to quickly, as you get a hint when you click on their door or visit certain locations that have a pending event. I don't have the game remotely memorized in terms of event orders but I've managed to complete it just fine 3ish times over the last 1-2 years without ever resorting to a guide.
 

TheDevian

Svengali Productions
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A question:
Are there any mechanics or other things you think could be improved about HH?
Well, for starters, I would like a button to go straight to the kitchen, like we have for the bar, so maybe a better navigation setup. One of my few complaints about this game is trying to do something (especially when I load an old save), and having events trigger on me, not letting me go where I want to go.

Though, this might need a better hint system, or relegating more events to needing to click *talk* first to trigger, and then teleport us to where we need to be.

Though, this would had a problem with the side girls, but most could be done by going to them or having a button in the lobby/front door to trigger the ones who don't live there? IDK..

We were talking about other ways to use the gifts, like being able to give them to girls for affection points (once a day/time slot, or once a day but doesn't use ), or to unlock an extra scene at the end, or just making it more likely to get a sex scene.

More interactions in the lobby, hopefully with Ellen enjoying the show. XD
Or other people commenting on the outfits they are wearing...


humm....
 

shadowtempered

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Well, for starters, I would like a button to go straight to the kitchen, like we have for the bar, so maybe a better navigation setup. One of my few complaints about this game is trying to do something (especially when I load an old save), and having events trigger on me, not letting me go where I want to go.

Though, this might need a better hint system, or relegating more events to needing to click *talk* first to trigger, and then teleport us to where we need to be.

Though, this would had a problem with the side girls, but most could be done by going to them or having a button in the lobby/front door to trigger the ones who don't live there? IDK..

We were talking about other ways to use the gifts, like being able to give them to girls for affection points (once a day/time slot, or once a day but doesn't use ), or to unlock an extra scene at the end, or just making it more likely to get a sex scene.

More interactions in the lobby, hopefully with Ellen enjoying the show. XD
Or other people commenting on the outfits they are wearing...


humm....
Gifts as they are... I don't even know why they exist other than to appease Autumn. Can you even use them when someone isn't upset? I haven't tried in so long that I just stopped bothering with it until Autumn's events prompt it.

Minor thought on navigation: I'd like to know the thoughts on why Runey made shortcuts to the frontdoor/bar accessible from both the bedroom and lobby, but didn't expand on that further? Why those two specifically and in those spots. From the lobby, it makes sense and lets you not have to re-design the lobby to include extra visible doors to each location but from the bedroom? If there isn't any game-flow reasons, perhaps direct shortcuts from the bedroom to 1st floor / 2nd floor / kitchen / utility room could be an option. I wouldn't say every location, but each major location "hub" that can branch to others.
 
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A question:
Are there any mechanics or other things you think could be improved about HH?
Not sure if my thoughts on this will be helpful or not but here they are.

1. Maybe incorporating additional sexual positions/scenes into the game. I say this being completely ignorant about how HS actually works.

The twins’ dungeon scene was great and I’d love more scenes like that, if possible.

2. I think the side girls may need more clarification/hints for their story progression.
Nothing major just a bit more clarity. I got lost trying to progress Vanessa’s story and would’ve liked a bit more nudging in the right direction.
 
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Lolicon Kami

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A question:
Are there any mechanics or other things you think could be improved about HH?
Let me preface by saying that HH is awesome, one of the best stories I've read in an H-game :)

But, I have one feedback.

I started playing HH when it was v0.14. Played through entire game, all side characters, all upgrades, etc. Then v0.15 came out. After switching versions, I noticed then that the "skip unseen text" doesn't work at all, for any scenes I try to play. I thought that this was because you revamped certain scenes, but the "skip already-seen text" doesn't work for anything. I'd be nice if this was fixed so I can skip scenes I've already looked at in a previous version :)

Note: I'm not sure if this is a HH problem or mac problem or a V0.15 problem.
 

Runey

Harem Hotel
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May 17, 2018
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Webcams. As is, they're there by default which kinda makes the MC a creeper since (going from memory) he doesn't tell anyone they are there, though multiple ladies notice. My suggestion would be to "remove" them and add them in as part of the exhibition stat. It gives you an extra minor money sink to buy one per lady, gives them a reason for it to be in their room and helps build on the whole "someone is watching and it excites me" that starts with the person they trust the most vs random goons at a beach/cafe.

I honestly forgot they existed for a while there.
People already complain about a grind though. I'm not sure if adding more money sinks is a good idea.
Honestly, I'm not sure how to take that. Most people tell me that there is no grind, but then I'll get the odd review here saying "omg insane ridiculous nonsense grinding all the time, 1/5 stars" and I don't even know what to think except "Is it only a 'grind' because you can't have everything instantly? All the income is mostly passive."

But I do plan on adding more functionality to the webcams at some point.

I feel like some kind of limited hint system would be beneficial. I just posted an issue that I'm having getting Android's relationship level past 25 and there are no obvious trigger hints available. I'm guessing there's some kind of event elsewhere hanging this up, but I have no idea what.
This hint system already exists, and has existed forever now. Honestly, this is another complaint I see often enough that I've noted it, however there is literally a hint system in game already, and for this event too. So this has always confused me.

If you go to Android's door and click "Give Android the Human Kit" it will tell you "I need to buy the Human Kit on the computer."

Not sure if my thoughts on this will be helpful or not but here they are.

1. Maybe incorporating additional sexual positions/scenes into the game. I say this being completely ignorant about how HS actually works.

The twins’ dungeon scene was great and I’d love more scenes like that, if possible.

2. I think the side girls may need more clarification/hints for their story progression.
Nothing major just a bit more clarity. I got lost trying to progress Vanessa’s story and would’ve liked a bit more nudging in the right direction.
All events that are ready should tell you exactly where you need to go and at which time. If I missed something specific, please let me know.
 
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