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He could always try the link to the unofficial android version on the opening post of this thread and I do recommend that.
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Sure... but reading is hard and reading the OP even harder...He could always try the link to the unofficial android version on the opening post of this thread and I do recommend that.
You saw Iksa and her group save Lin during Lin's retelling of that story. They have also spent time together during that uprising (which I hope was implied), but not a lot.
Can you say that for certain? Let's consider it; Syl'anar is just one country with about 3 billion humans on it (It's twice the size of north america) but only 1 billion elves. So there is already high demand and not enough supply, but one elf is able to support a few elf bots, so if every elf was turned into a battery, most of Syl'anar would be covered. But it doesn't end there, elf slavery is illegal in other parts of the world, and they're not allowed to leave Syl'anar anyway. Trenero's plan goes further. He wants to bring the power of slavery to the whole world, and there are more people living outside of Syl'anar than inside of Syl'anar, so billions more on this super-planet. It's a huge market no one has tapped into, that only the richest man in the world really could.
(They also don't have cloning technology capable of cloning humans, that was invented for reasons. Well, maybe something could be done in the womb, but F&E aren't clones. Use the code truestory for the true story.)
Most of the oil was used during and right after the industrial revolution. This world is basically ours tuned to 11, they almost destroyed their planet during this age and flooded a huge portion of the planet, even Syl'anar lost like 10% - 15% of its land. You wouldn't know this though, it's never been mentioned in game as I've not found a reason to mention it yet. Most of the world has "figured it out" and runs on nuclear fusion and some renewables where it make sense. When Cornwall was a kid, the skies would have still been visibly dusty nearly every day, now it's fine. This is another big reason no one wants to break the status quo.
There's nothing special about elf blood other than their unique blood types. That was just religious nonsense. Human blood could be used. Part of the reason these are made like they are is because the materials can be grown instead of mined. For the most part, this is a far sighted solution to the finite resources on the planet. One of the main metaphors for using elves is that they're so close to humans, any of this could happen to you too. Some choose to see them as the other, and some choose to see them as themselves.
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UnoriginalUserName
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See that? He didn't shoot down my premium Elf-bot idea. I'm pre-ordering my Sylvia mk1 model ASAP!
lnomsim
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Wow, that's really interesting, I really love the amount of detail you put in your story.
But when I said oil, I didn't mean petroleum, more like fluid for hydraulics (it's called oil in my language, I have absolutely no idea what it is made of, but I'm sure it's not human blood.)
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It's not the same though, the blood is not (if I understand correctly), used as a lubricant, it is the fuel source. Using something in the blood to power them.
I could have misunderstood, though...
Knight_of_the_lance
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Oil is not the lubricant, that would be greasse, oil is in the piston it is what is used to activate it and push on it. liquid being incompressable ( in day to day lives) it is used in Hydrolics to activate all sorts of machinery requiering a lot of force and precision. It is how an excavator operator can flip a quarter with his bucket without taking a chunck of the ground with it.
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If memory serves, blood is used much like it is in the human body (or elf body in this case) as a way to deliver nutrients of some sort throughout the bot. It was apparently the most effective way to do this
Hahaha, yeah.....maybe I need it for an actual Android platform, and btw the link is to v.14 so....
Knight_of_the_lance
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Ho I am not arguing with that. It is just that the Devian samedi to have miss understood what inomsim said.
It is quite possible, but they were talking about lubricant, there is also hydrologic fluid for pistons, but my only point was that I don't believe that was what it was there to do. It somehow powers them, or something. I need to go back and replay that one again, it's been a while, and I was a bit too freaking out over the bloody eyes and how awful it seemed. lol
The whole thing about using elves as blood cattle makes me wonder...
What would happen if Android turned an elfbot into one of his children, giving him consciousness?
What implications would it have? It would help save his blood brothers, they would kill the humans to free
to the elves, would they be indifferent to their suffering or would they be victims of the slave Corporocracy?
if they decided to have their own path, would they use elves to get the blood or would they cultivate it to coexist and be more efficient (which is not difficult really)?
I really like this game, it can bring up a lot of interesting questions
What would happen if Android turned an elfbot into one of his children, giving him consciousness?
What implications would it have? It would help save his blood brothers, they would kill the humans to free
to the elves, would they be indifferent to their suffering or would they be victims of the slave Corporocracy?
if they decided to have their own path, would they use elves to get the blood or would they cultivate it to coexist and be more efficient (which is not difficult really)?
I really like this game, it can bring up a lot of interesting questions
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Then it is me that missunderstood. sorry. But if blood is good at one thing. Me being alive is proof that it succeed as a carryer of nutrient and waste for the body. I guess that the elf bot woud use it for the same reasons. I guess that it is effective enough to make it so it is cheaper for trenero to take it from other living beings that try to manifacture artificial blood.
lnomsim
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No, no, I was talking about hydraulic fluid, not a lubricant. The thingy you put into the ducts in order to apply a force and make mechanic parts move.
I mean, in muscles, you increase the influx of blood to contract the muscle and create an effort. In machines, you increase the pressure of fluid (as I said, in my language, we use something called oil), and it has the same effect.
The elf blood is supposed to transfer energy from the protein paste to the rest of the body, which apparently is very organic, since they are sometimes called cyborgs, and they take the pigment from the blood for their skin colour.
My point is simply that if you have to use fluid to move nutrients or create an effort, blood shouldn't be the go-to solution.
Economically speaking, I don't see how it works either.
You replace elves with bots that need elves as a source of 'fuel' (well, the protein paste is the real source of fuel, the blood is just the way to transmit energy to the body), but you still need to feed and take care of the elves. So yes, the bot doesn't need to sleep and doesn't need amenities.
But it needs patented food, and regular maintenance nonetheless.
None of the machines in any of the factories I worked in needed to eat or take vacations, but they needed maintenance and downtime.
Anyway, I perfectly understand it's sci-fi in a fantasy universe, so I'll gladly play the suspension of disbelief card.
Yeah, I like the idea of using crystals or something else to power things. Of course, right now, the humans don't know about them and their capabilities, and it is possible that we don't have enough to do that. That said, it could also be possible to grow them in a lab... That said, we don't know how they get the 'magic' charge, so for all we know, it could take centuries to 'charge' them.
It would be funny as hell if they were, what was it from Star Trek, Dilithium Crystals? And eventually, we use them for powering spaceships and everything. XD
The most practical thing would be to take samples of bone marrow from elves to cultivate in the laboratory, then you convert the laboratory cultures into industrial bioreactors (perhaps similar to those of microalgae, but with bone marrow to make blood) and thus it would not be necessary to have so many elves to maintain the blood supply, only some that serve as stock to give new life to more crops or for emergencies
The downside of no longer needing so many elves to obtain blood and replacing them with elfbots in daily life would leave many elves with nothing to do, so that could cause their total extermination to avoid revolutions or revolts
in the best of cases they would be pets or they would be confined in indigenous reserves or zoos
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Which is fine, but in a playthrough in which the MC hasn't purchased Jin, Lin's lack of reaction is grossly out of character for her. It's the same as the reaction in which Jin has been purchased. I really think you should write an alternative version of that scene, if it's accessible for non-Jin-purchasers, that honors Lin's characterization. Alternatively, Jin shouldn't be summoned if she hasn't been purchased. The current state of things — that Jin can just show up, Lin's like "hey, teach me how to be fucked for hours!" and everything's fine — isn't Lin as you've written her.
I'm truly not. This is one of the best adult games I've ever played, and I say that because of the story. I've posted my praise countless times, herein. I care about the story. Which is why, when I see Lin indifferent to her long-enslaved sister showing up, I react. That's not the Lin you wrote.
Replicating the "I can't purchase Jin anymore" thing requires going back quite a few saves. I'll attempt it.
Perniciousducks
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Nope, you meet Jin in Lin’s 15th event. You have to meet here there, this opens up the option to buy her. The sex training is a later Lin event so it’s impossible that she hasn’t met Jin at that point.