VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

[TheDevian]

At the end of this, all I have to say is, you don't have to twist facts or draw false equivalences to justify this desire. It's fiction and exploring these types of concepts in fiction can be a safe and non-harmful way to do things. However, just as you have a right to express your desire to see this, I have mine to express that I would prefer not to. It would actually make the game worse for me, as it is antithetical to the messaging the game has gone for.

That is my point, it is fiction. No matter what you do, no one is getting hurt.
Just like Eddie Murphy dressing up as an old, white Jew.

I have plans to include something like this in game (humans dressing as elves), but I also plan to show it off as a bad thing. As ChildOfIshtar said, it would be the equivalent of blackface in this world. Only in this world, it would be more acceptable. It might even be a whole holiday. Because it's a bad world. The humans wouldn't see it as bad, but you can bet the elves would have something to say about how they are portrayed by humans in public.

Lin did have a moment where she thought looking more like Sylvia (blonde and blue eyes) would make her prettier due to how Sylvia would call her dirty. MC told her that was very stupid pretty quick though.

I also equated it to blackface in my initial post (not sure if that is the one that the server ate, I tried to make it less 'real' the second time, calling it 'elf ears' instead), but there was a time in our history where that was used to help black people, it was not always a 'bad thing'. Take Al Jolson, he did blackface as a way to get racist white people used to blacks and accept them. While by today's standards, they would have him called out as a racist, at the time, he was one of the most progressive people around, being one of the only people who hired black people for theater then, and even was responsible for production of the first all black musical. He was one of the least racist people of that time.

Context matters, nothing is pure black/and white, it's all grayscale. We cannot look at everything through the lens of our modern world, and the current political environment. Especially history.

In the HH world, even the 1920-40s would be too recent in that regard, since that would have been decades after abolishing slavery. So that would be, socially speaking, the equivalent of the mid 1800's (assuming that we will end slavery in the game's plot).

Like anything, these things can be done in a way that is good, bad, or (usually) somewhere in between. Ranging from offensive to helpful. It all depends on the context.

Nah Punchings no good, You might get back up eventually...
But if I eat you I get rid of the problem and have a good dinner.
Thats a win win in my book!.
(hope your not to Boney.)

That would take time away from bonking though.
And yes, I am VERY crunchy, and wiry. Not tender at all. ...except around the belly area. XD

 

[TheDevian]

was wondering if someone could help me - or point me in the right direction? i seem to be stuck in a loop with moon - where she is stuck on level 2 and tells me she needs training. i pay for the training in the morning, see her later, and it is as is nothing has happened?

i also have exclamation marks on sylvia, but no idea on how to advance the story...

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[cheesehead39193919]

It was a legitimate question: are they to subtle? If you need a costume, clicking on the door to visit the girl will tell you. If you need to wait, the loading icon won't be full. If you're trying to do a new event for one of the girls and it's co-dependent, while it won't give you the specific level, it does tell you to increase the affection of said-dependent. The only outliers to these that I'm aware of are the side girls from the schools - they're on a timer to call you and just show up. Runey said he's working to address event handling.

If the in-game options are to subtle, then it is a legitimate concern for new players.

Believe it or not I'm not out to bully you or attempt to make myself look superior. From a game-design perspective I think what is currently in game is more than adequate but that doesn't mean it's above criticism and can't be improved upon.

It's by no means bad, in fact it's usually quite good. However I might be looking at this from a specific perspective of replaying the game, as has been required a few times due to save compatibility and whatnot. When replaying the game, I'm trying to get to the new content as quickly as possible and so its nice have the mod so that I'm not wasting time and can streamline my playthrough to get to the new content.

 

[DigDug69]

I just learned something that I did not know.
Let the androids lust keep building well past 9.
Edge her repeatedly, and you will eventually be rewarded with triplets.

 

[cheesehead39193919]

All of that is already in the game. You can click the "i" button to see which level you are with each character and if they have another event ready or not. Going to their door should tell you what you need to do to get to that event if it doesn't just start the event there.

All of that is already in the base game. I think it's literally impossible to miss. How have you not noticed the stats screen? Or that clicking " *Talk* " on a door will tell you what you need to do / buy in order to start the event? I'm sorry if this is coming off as dickish too, but it must be incredibly hard to miss these hints if you've ever been stuck.

If there is anywhere specific you can remember getting stuck I would love to look into that. It's definitely possible that the few times you were stuck were the few times a hint wasn't given.

It's not a matter of getting stuck. I just mentioned this in my reply to someone else, but I think I might be looking at this from a fairly specific lens that's not just normally playing the game. I'm coming at this from the perspective of replays of the game being necessary at points due to save compatibility and whatnot as the game evolves and matures. The mod has been invaluable to me in those scenarios because it streamlines the playthrough to get to the new content. I don't always have a ton of free time so it's nice to have a tool that gives me exact information so I know I have X days to do stuff with other girls while I wait for the next story event to trigger for someone else.

And when it comes to friendship levels for the girls, it can be annoying on replays to get to points where you hit a roadblock with one girl because you need to advance the story with another girl. Like with Kali and Android for example. But it's annoying not knowing exactly how many events you need to go through with Android before the next Kali event will trigger. I find that it results in wasting a lot of time by focusing on a single character just to move on with another character because you don't always know how many days you might need to wait for something. With the mod, it makes it super easy to multitask with all the girls and saves a ton of time.

 

[TheDevian]

It's by no means bad, in fact it's usually quite good. However I might be looking at this from a specific perspective of replaying the game, as has been required a few times due to save compatibility and whatnot. When replaying the game, I'm trying to get to the new content as quickly as possible and so its nice have the mod so that I'm not wasting time and can streamline my playthrough to get to the new content.

To be fair, if not for the mod, there would not have been save compatibility issues either.

 

[german_manno]

Did you accidentally enable the rollback option and then only have the problem while clicking that side of the screen?

Yep that was the issue. Thank you very much, I will now sit in the corner with a dunce cap on for the rest of the day

 

[torresm]

I just learned something that I did not know.
Let the androids lust keep building well past 9.
Edge her repeatedly, and you will eventually be rewarded with triplets.
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Holy shit she's multiplying!
So I guess we're heading into machine revolution after all

 

[Principles]

why i can't unlock sylvia event 4

 

[TheDevian]

why i can't unlock sylvia event 4

Do you own the garden?

 

[Evil13]

Holy shit she's multiplying!

Okay, well there's room on the MC's dick, room on his face and the third can entertain herself by licking his balls and slamming her hand into her snatch.

There, problem solved.

 

[chillbzzz]

The Autumn exhibition scenes are hot as hell, when is the last option coming?

 

[TheDevian]

Okay, well there's room on the MC's dick, room on his face and the third can entertain herself by licking his balls and slamming her hand into her snatch.

There, problem solved.

The 3 Autumn's were less creative... XD

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The Autumn exhibition scenes are hot as hell, when is the last option coming?

Not until after she gets her sex scene (though maybe some anal might work first). Either way, it's going to be a bit.

 

[wablowbilly]

Quick question - does the game tell you when you have maxed out everything until the next update? Sort of like genesis order does.

 

[Evil13]

Quick question - does the game tell you when you have maxed out everything until the next update? Sort of like genesis order does.

It will generally say something to the effect of "You have reached the end of X's storyline. More content will be included in the next update" for any character.

 

[SloppyJoes420]

I remebr this game. No way in hell I'd play it without Lains wt mod. I hate guessing games and looking for quest trigger. The worst thing about these games is how they expect you to search around for the triggers. Spend 30 minutes looking for the next 2 minutes of content.

 

[DigDug69]

I remebr this game. No way in hell I'd play it without Lains wt mod. I hate guessing games and looking for quest trigger. The worst thing about these games is how they expect you to search around for the triggers. Spend 30 minutes looking for the next 2 minutes of content.

This game does not have hidden on screen triggers that you have to find and click on.
I won't play those games either.
The game gives clues for events like most other games.
But, you have to be willing to read.
Just being flat out told what to do all of the time can be rather boring.
It tells you when you have pending events for characters, when you click the i button at the top of the screen.

And there is a walkthough for the game, for people who need to be told what to do.

 

[c3p0]

I remebr this game. No way in hell I'd play it without Lains wt mod. I hate guessing games and looking for quest trigger. The worst thing about these games is how they expect you to search around for the triggers. Spend 30 minutes looking for the next 2 minutes of content.

Then your out of luck. Lains mod was last updated March 2021 and then going MIA. Then Lord Ashram have taken over and doing the mod, but doing health issues and what was determined as cancer. So, currently no one maintain a mod, not that one is needed IMHO - see DigDug69 post.

Thus you can either wait until Lord Ashram going better and he has win his battle against cancer - I hope, but you never know - or wait until Lain comes back from wherever and starting to work on his mod again.
Or play the unmoded game, what currently all need to do, if they whant to play HH 0.16.2 at all.

 

[torresm]

I remebr this game. No way in hell I'd play it without Lains wt mod. I hate guessing games and looking for quest trigger. The worst thing about these games is how they expect you to search around for the triggers. Spend 30 minutes looking for the next 2 minutes of content.

The game gives you several hints for each of the events, sometimes even telling you outright what to do/where to go... You should give it a try, I was a mod user too but now I don't see much of a point in using one.

 

[polycentric]

I remebr this game. No way in hell I'd play it without Lains wt mod. I hate guessing games and looking for quest trigger. The worst thing about these games is how they expect you to search around for the triggers. Spend 30 minutes looking for the next 2 minutes of content.

The biggest concern (and it's one that the no mod can 'fix') is going through the content too quickly before the girls are leveled up. There are certain sequences in the script around key events and no mod is going to change that as well. No-one should have, between the progress panel and hints, to complete more than a couple of unlocking actions even if things need to happen on a specific day and players can skip days if that's the case. The time should be spent, though, on leveling up the girls.