VN Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.18.2] [Runey]

[Quickpawmaud]

It seems kind of odd to argue that there are moral ways to have slavery, especially in a porn game, since the entire concept of slavery is inherently immoral and there isn't much point to a porn game without sex.

Nothing is inherently immoral, there is no objective morality it is all perspective. I would agree slavery is immoral but I can not prove it. It is only an opinion. Indentured servitude is basically slavery and was a punishment or debt related agreement which is not immoral as long as the "slaves" are treated fairly and given a fair length of sentence. I could also see actual slavery being somewhat morally acceptable in my eyes. For example a criminal forced into labor in prison I would say is acceptable as long as they are not mistreated in other ways. Not all slavery is race based. The definition that I would use for slavery is unpaid forced labour maybe you use another. Sexual slavery and race based slavery I consider immoral for reasons other than the base forced unpaid labour.

 

[Quickpawmaud]

Ran into a problem does anyone have a link to version 8.1? I cannot find it.

 

[TheDevian]

It seems kind of odd to argue that there are moral ways to have slavery, especially in a porn game, since the entire concept of slavery is inherently immoral and there isn't much point to a porn game without sex.

Yeah, I wasn't talking about morals, I was just talking about the laws about slavery that are in the game. Since Mr. Cornwell was put in place, they started making laws concerning the more humane treatment of elves.

Ran into a problem does anyone have a link to version 8.1? I cannot find it.

8.1 is old, we are on 8.2 now.

 

[Quickpawmaud]

Yeah, I wasn't talking about morals, I was just talking about the laws about slavery that are in the game. Since Mr. Cornwell was put in place, they started making laws concerning the more humane treatment of elves.

8.1 is old, we are on 8.2 now.

Ok sorry I did not read the full context just saw the last comment decided to give my opinion on slavery as you do on the internet. I know 8.2 is the latest version but the mod I want to use is not updated past 8.1 so I need 8.1. People in the chat for the mod are complaining about an error and that they need to use 8.1 not 8.2.

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Ok sorry I did not read the full context just saw the last comment decided to give my opinion on slavery as you do on the internet. I know 8.2 is the latest version but the mod I want to use is not updated past 8.1 so I need 8.1. People in the chat for the mod are complaining about an error and that they need to use 8.1 not 8.2.

If you are using Lain's Mod, it'll work with 8.2; the only changes were to music and the splash screen, these don't affect that mod's use.

 

[Quickpawmaud]

https://f95zone.to/threads/harem-hotel-lains-walkthrough-new-scenes-mod-v0-8-1.19954/page-23
on that page people complain about getting errors and someone talking about a certain file getting changed and another saying to use 8.1. Guess I will try it only reason I didn't is because it takes awhile to download and did not want to waste my time needlessly since I am playing dragon quest 11 right now.

 

[Quickpawmaud]

If you are using Lain's Mod, it'll work with 8.2; the only changes were to music and the splash screen, these don't affect that mod's use.

It definitely does not work is there anyway to get the old files?

 

[DeltaDuster]

I don't think it makes sense that Lin can refuse to take pictures because she doesn't like you and that there isn't an option to immediately fuck her. She is a slave so her wishes on any topic shouldn't affect what your character as her owner decides that she will do.

While for the pictures, I might agree with you to some degree, there are laws about raping your slave and other bad treatment.

Part of it also boils down to MC's decision. Considering all the interactions we've seen with him, I doubt he's the type that would force anyone into anything, regardless of their relationship, especially if he's still trying to build trust.

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

It definitely does not work is there anyway to get the old files?

Try Patreon. The links were posted there originally.

 

[Havik79]

Or just try a roll back.

 

[Quickpawmaud]

Try Patreon. The links were posted there originally.

That was the first thing I tried I am a 5 dollar tier pretty sure 8.1 is not on the patreon. I have the 8.0 prerelease but I cannot update that to 8.1 so that is useless. I believe they updated the 8.1 post to 8.2 so there is not old files. I attempted digging through the posts on this site but there is so many it is too much of a task.

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

That was the first thing I tried I am a 5 dollar tier pretty sure 8.1 is not on the patreon. I have the 8.0 prerelease but I cannot update that to 8.1 so that is useless. I believe they updated the 8.1 post to 8.2 so there is not old files.

https://f95zone.to/threads/harem-hotel-v0-8-2-runey.12760/post-2448214
That is the fix from 8.0 to 8.1 I believe or just wait for Lain to update his mod.

 

[Quickpawmaud]

https://f95zone.to/threads/harem-hotel-v0-8-2-runey.12760/post-2448214
That is the fix from 8.0 to 8.1 I believe or just wait for Lain to update his mod.

That says it is a "Kali mail fix" below that post I found a google drive link to "V081" hopefully that works.

 

[Quickpawmaud]

You must be registered to see the links

this is the google drive upload requested by Nerozing with Runey permission

 

[masteroftw]

It seems kind of odd to argue that there are moral ways to have slavery, especially in a porn game, since the entire concept of slavery is inherently immoral and there isn't much point to a porn game without sex.

Did you know that watching porn is inherently immoral? You do realize that one of the arguments for having slaves was that it was the moral thing to do right? Just saying something is this way or that doesn't make it true. I don't think a single society that had slaves didn't have laws for what you could or couldn't do with them.

This might come as a shock to you but a lot of people like a story with their porn. It's the reason that people will read a fifty hour VN with no sex for the first twenty hours.

 

[Quickpawmaud]

Did you know that watching porn is inherently immoral? You do realize that one of the arguments for having slaves was that it was the moral thing to do right? Just saying something is this way or that doesn't make it true. I don't think a single society that had slaves didn't have laws for what you could or couldn't do with them.

This might come as a shock to you but a lot of people like a story with their porn. It's the reason that people will read a fifty hour VN with no sex for the first twenty hours.

Nothing is inherently immoral, there is no objective morality it is all perspective. I would agree slavery is immoral but I can not prove it. It is only an opinion. Indentured servitude is basically slavery and was a punishment or debt related agreement which is not immoral as long as the "slaves" are treated fairly and given a fair length of sentence. I could also see actual slavery being somewhat morally acceptable in my eyes. For example a criminal forced into labor in prison I would say is acceptable as long as they are not mistreated in other ways. Not all slavery is race based. The definition that I would use for slavery is unpaid forced labour maybe you use another. Sexual slavery and race based slavery I consider immoral for reasons other than the base forced unpaid labour.

Also the argument originally was about the rules ingame not whether or not they are moral in real life. The guy you are quoting was complaining you can't rape Lin since she is your slave.

 

[Quickpawmaud]

I don't think it makes sense that Lin can refuse to take pictures because she doesn't like you and that there isn't an option to immediately fuck her. She is a slave so her wishes on any topic shouldn't affect what your character as her owner decides that she will do.

While for the pictures, I might agree with you to some degree, there are laws about raping your slave and other bad treatment.

It seems kind of odd to argue that there are moral ways to have slavery, especially in a porn game, since the entire concept of slavery is inherently immoral and there isn't much point to a porn game without sex.

Here is the full context

 

[masteroftw]

Also the argument originally was about the rules ingame not whether or not they are moral in real life. The guy you are quoting was complaining you can't rape Lin since she is your slave.

I know. If they want that then you should be able to do it then go to jail and get a game over screen. I just didn't like the backwards logic used.

 

[Quickpawmaud]

That google drive I found works yay!

 

[srksrk 68]

Hi guys,

I just finished that wonderful update. However, I still have 0/2 Lucia events in my info window. How do I get those events? I finished everything else, incl. Bar events and all main character stories.

As for gallery, there is still one locked on the last screen (the left one of the final three scenes, left to the Ji-yeon scene). How do I unlock that one?

Also, is there a way to get friendlier with the three elves I bought? Their happiness is 3 (as far as I remember), but I can only give/revoce recreational access now. I got everything Nia wanted and have the friendship route with her and Sylvia, and the slave route with Ann.

And finally, is there anything about the ferries besides asking how their sister is?