Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.19.1] [Runey]

[Delighted12]

When I called you out about comparing it to AAA games and Harry Potter Novels, you said;



But when I said you seem completely out of touch with the standard games in this forum, you use this comparison;



Which is a great way to say; I use AAA games as comparison, without saying I use AAA games as comparison.

What? Not sure if I can mention other games here, but I can literally rate 3 games for 5 stars here in F95 right now. Do I have to do that for you to show how low my standard is? That for you is a metaphor. How about I change it to a hot dog stand? Is it really that hard to accept the game is just not that good. lol

Which is an indirect contradiction. I dont care about your answer you seem boring anyway.

You don't really have to do this. Think before you speak. Maybe you can destroy me with constructive stuff.

 

[Strike-10]

As an example you've seen on the news about half of the US is Republican and probably half of those people are literal racist/neo-nazi sympathisers right?

Your example is as flawed as THIS “example”

“You’ve seen on the news that Arabs are the perpetrators of terrorist attacks so probably half of them want to blow up America.”

This sort of narrow minded statements are emotionally charged, incorrect & the ONLY purpose they serve is to contribute to the “us” vs “them” mentality.
A better place to approach from is to assume the individual (or group) is Almost exactly the same as you but you think slightly different regarding some issues.

I don’t disagree that the Republicans have the racists but so do the Dems its just easy to spot the republicans. Look the Republicans have Kanye and his anti-Semitic racism.

When you apply your character assassin brush (especially to half the population) I suggest you try to paint “inside the lines” vs such a broad and liberal slop fest.

Try to come together VS vilification of those that you disagree with.

 

[Runey]

Your example is as flawed as THIS “example”

You’ve seen on the news that Arabs are the perpetrators of terrorist attacks so probably half of them want to blow up America.

This sort of narrow minded statements are emotionally charged, incorrect & the ONLY purpose they serve is to contribute to the “us” vs “them” mentality.
A better place to approach from is to assume the individual (or group) is Almost exactly the same as you but you think slightly different regarding some issues.

I don’t disagree that the Republicans have the racists but so do the Dems its just easy to spot the republicans. Look the Republicans have Kanye and his anti-Semitic racism.

When you apply your character assassin brush (especially to half the population) I suggest you try to paint “inside the lines” vs such a broad and liberal slop fest.

Try to come together VS vilification of those that you disagree with.

He was just pointing out the large majority of those types within that group, the same as you did (as he said half of that half of the population). The same as I am doing in Harem Hotel. Syl'anar is a Republic, so those in power are Republicans (To be clear, they aren't MAGA Trump Republicans, they are Republicans in the world political sense for the power structure). But let's not turn this into a discussion that isn't about Harem Hotel. I feel like I have been able to write a lot of grey area in this regard, how do you feel I have done?

 

[Lolicon Kami]

I literally wrote I won't compare it to something like AAA games in that review. My standard is not high. What's wrong with you lol.

Also, I think you cherry-picked the bad dialogue of this game

99% of the story is awesome, 1% ain't so great. I urge you to look at the 99%.

 

[Strike-10]

He was just pointing out the large majority of those types within that group, the same as you did (as he said half of that half of the population). The same as I am doing in Harem Hotel. Syl'anar is a Republic, so those in power are Republicans (To be clear, they aren't MAGA Trump Republicans, they are Republicans in the world political sense for the power structure). But let's not turn this into a discussion that isn't about Harem Hotel. I feel like I have been able to write a lot of grey area in this regard, how do you feel I have done?

I have nothing but good to say regarding HH.
I never felt that any of your writing is much beyond a presentation of the environment ie not telling others how to “think” granted it’s good when people are smart enough to “figure out” slavery is wrong … lol.

My post was mostly just a comment to encourage non-sheeple thinking.
To encourage broader thinking & to not get or use the “rut” of an us vs them mentality.

Which his example was.

I suggest a broader view where ”them” IS actually a flavor of “Me with a few divergences”

I encourage a recognition that the greater problem that
we are in a two party system and that
most people are actually Sheeple.

These two problems are the biggest contributors to why it feels like we are on the express bus to hell. LoL

 

[JJRobbie]

I love the lust mechanic/mini-game. Is a new character going to have the lust mechanic in the next update?

 

[Strike-10]

Also on a side comment.
335million people in USA ~ half repub ~ half dem
~88 million people are NOT racist/neo-nazi sympathisers.

In the US since you for all intensive purposes you have 2 choices and the choice was you can be a rapist or a murderer pick 1.

and the choices of which party is which choice changes every 4 years.

 

[Runey]

I have nothing but good to say regarding HH.
I never felt that any of your writing is much beyond a presentation of the environment ie not telling others how to “think” granted it’s good when people are smart enough to “figure out” slavery is wrong … lol.

My post was mostly just a comment to encourage non-sheeple thinking.
To encourage broader thinking & to not get or use the “rut” of an us vs them mentality.

Which his example was.

I suggest a broader view where ”them” IS actually a flavor of “Me with a few divergences”

I encourage a recognition that the greater problem that
we are in a two party system and that
most people are actually Sheeple.

These two problems are the biggest contributors to why it feels like we are on the express bus to hell. LoL

I agree, I guess I just didn't get the same impression out of his comment. And by the way, once Elves become more "popular" within the culture of Syl'anar, you're going to see humans saying "I've always supported the elves, I've always loved them, I have elf friends." etc etc. Just being fake. It's just that this type of thinking isn't popular in the culture right now since Sylian Republicans are in power by a vast majority, so most of the culture is hate, oppression, media control and lies.

And yeah, I try not to make MC think for you, I want the player to hold their own opinions and let the characters express themselves so the player can experience what they experience. Show not tell is an important rule in storywriting, so I try to show the effects of this culture.

Also on a side comment.
335million people in USA ~ half repub ~ half dem
~88 million people are NOT racist/neo-nazi sympathisers.

In the US since you for all intensive purposes you have 2 choices and the choice was you can be a rapist or a murderer pick 1.

and the choices of which party is which choice changes every 4 years.

Please don't. As I said, we need to keep this related to Harem Hotel. I really don't think he literally meant half. There's no point in this.

 

[Runey]

I love the lust mechanic/mini-game. Is a new character going to have the lust mechanic in the next update?

Unfortunately I was not able to get to that in v0.16. But soon!

 

[Delighted12]

Also, I think you cherry-picked the bad dialogue of this game

99% of the story is awesome, 1% ain't so great. I urge you to look at the 99%.

Do I have to tell you all the girls' personalities? I read them all. Even when there are like 10 selections on the screen, I still read them all. That's why I feel disappointed. Nothing impressive.

That kind of dialogue makes me out of the tone. It's hard for me to immerse myself in it. When I saw that, I was like, "Common sense doesn't exist in this world?" And not to mention the inconsistencies in the story. Lin forget her parents' name but later there is another elf said something like this to Jin: "But you're an elf, you should be good in memory!!" I know she said it was because of the drug. But what about Lin? I can go on and on if you want me to.

Maybe you think I'm picky, but I'm the one who thought there would be a business battle between MC and Kali's father. The dialogue performance is weak for me. And the dev is clearly only putting a little effort into camera work during dialogues. That's another reason why I said the story is not engaging. The weak dialogue can be fixed by camera work, but both are weak. What can I do. lol

I said I respected Dev's ideology. That's why I said I respected all the stuff in that review. So it's not because I hate some specific ideology or something. Don't worry.

 

[Runey]

Do I have to tell you all the girls' personalities? I read them all. Even when there are like 10 selections on the screen, I still read them all. That's why I feel disappointed. Nothing impressive.

That kind of dialogue makes me out of the tone. It's hard for me to immerse myself in it. When I saw that, I was like, "Common sense doesn't exist in this world?" And not to mention the inconsistencies in the story. Lin forget her parents' name but later there is another elf said something like this to Jin: "But you're an elf, you should be good in memory!!" I know she said it was because of the drug. But what about Lin? I can go on and on if you want me to.

Maybe you think I'm picky, but I'm the one who thought there would be a business battle between MC and Kali's father. The dialogue performance is weak for me. And the dev is clearly only putting a little effort into camera work during dialogues. That's another reason why I said the story is not engaging. The weak dialogue can be fixed by camera work, but both are weak. What can I do. lol

I said I respected Dev's ideology. That's why I said I respected all the stuff in that review. So it's not because I hate some specific ideology or something. Don't worry.

Can we please stop this? I could correct everything you got wrong, like that story also mentioning that elves don't remember everything when they're nearly toddlers... as Lin was when their parents died... but it's pretty clear that you just don't care. You could have spent all this time writing a real review so I could fix any possible inconsistencies you noticed, but you're arguing with random internet strangers about something you don't even like. Just share your opinions, don't attack people, and move on.

 

[Strike-10]

I don’t feel that they thought all that much before they rattled off that statement either … I just spotlighted it because people that are aware of the devisive statements they “drop” into accidentally and they can avoid such faux pas.

Its great that in the world of HH politics are present but have no real presence or role other than deep background. It was an excellent choice and writing on your part to the overall depth of the story.

Its always best to paint the picture and then let others interpret how the story(picture) is relevant for themselves.

 

[Strike-10]

Apologies if you felt I was going down a garbage path (I think so too)
(politics is garbage) but I felt it might be helpful for the OP to be aware that the way they expressed their point turned 25% of his audience into evil “them” and while it’s motivating and emotionally persuasive it’s also incorrect & divisive (possibly manipulative) …
I was encouraging a more “go high” approach & argument.

 

[Delighted12]

Can we please stop this? I could correct everything you got wrong, like that story also mentioning that elves don't remember everything when they're nearly toddlers... as Lin was when their parents died... but it's pretty clear that you just don't care. You could have spent all this time writing a real review, but you're arguing with random internet strangers about something you don't even like. Just share your opinions, don't attack people, and move on.

First of all, I'm bored. And if I have to write a review, I have to play the game and write it at the same time. I do take it seriously. (Maybe I skip a little.) And I am working right now. It only took me 30 seconds to reply. Don't worry about my work.

Second, I didn't attack anyone unless they said something to me. If ever, it was only at that review.

Lastly, I have more comments about your games in those replies now. But you starts tell me to stop. Alright. I can't even talk about the game in the game thread here. lol

 

[Strike-10]

Also, there's this guy. You parked on HIS corner.
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THIS GUY IS LITERALLY THE SCARIEST THING IVE EVER SEEN.

Please pass the eye bleach.

 

[HBKTheIcon69]

Has she not hooked up with others? I know she can hook up with Moon but I can't recall any Mains off the top of my head. It's hard to remember everything I've made now haha. That stuff will definitely happen though.

As I'm remaking these older events I've noticed how bad my writing used to be, to put it bluntly. I think the way I write now makes a lot more sense and is much more engaging. It also really helps to have the foresight of future content now. The beginning of the game still needs a lot of work, and I hope everyone is loving the changes. I haven't heard many complaints about them so I think I'm doing right. Sorry, I know that isn't directly what you asked haha.

Not to my knowledge of a straight up lesbian scene when MC not present. Even for Moon I'll have to double check my game saves for what I have unlocked for gallery as Moon was with Maria not Kali though for Kali I felt it was getting further progressed on her being hooking up with at least one of the main females. Given Maria being the most open sexually kind of had that feel the most but she's been already involved with Ashley in the earlier ongoings of the game.

 

[Runey]

Not to my knowledge of a straight up lesbian scene when MC not present. Even for Moon I'll have to double check my game saves for what I have unlocked for gallery as Moon was with Maria not Kali though for Kali I felt it was getting further progressed on her being hooking up with at least one of the main females. Given Maria being the most open sexually kind of had that feel the most but she's been already involved with Ashley in the earlier ongoings of the game.

Oh, I try to keep the girls' sexuality in mind when creating these scenes. So Kali or Ashley typically wouldn't do that without MC being present. Some of them might be "Heteroflexible" for the purposes of this game, like Ashley doing a lot of kissing even though she's the straigthest with her breeding fetish, haha. But yes I definitely plan to add more threesomes/foursomes/orgies as the game progresses and each character gets closer to each other.

 

[Strike-10]

Sorry to pile on Runey.

but since you are “here” & actively engaged with us at the moment.

In the past (or in my review of HH) I mentioned a possible game “upgrade” and I don’t know the answer. So sorry in advance if you already answered this.

My question / suggestion was with regards to red room content and whether or not if it was possible to expand & improve the interactivity aspects. I can see why this would be very low on the priority list (especially since story wrap up & character developments are massively higher priority and lots and lots of work). Not to mention that a rework/expansion of red room would be a HUGE task.

Reworking the red room scene options & giving them functionality of say Pink Tea Slave Lord of the Galaxy(which is done in non ren‘py iirc)

I guess I was just curious on your thoughts (technical? (It’s impossible), bad idea(not for my game), I hesitate to suggest collaborating with PT (but perfect world & in the interest of making a “Epic Best”) and maybe PT loves you & wants to be a guest programmer)

… no pressure regarding this question I just was curious about your thoughts & if you had experienced the functionality I am referring to.

 

[Crimsonlights]

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THIS GUY IS LITERALLY THE SCARIEST THING IVE EVER SEEN.

Please pass the eye bleach.

 

[Runey]

Sorry to pile on Runey.

but since you are “here” & actively engaged with us at the moment.

In the past (or in my review of HH) I mentioned a possible game “upgrade” and I don’t know the answer. So sorry in advance if you already answered this.

My question / suggestion was with regards to red room content and whether or not if it was possible to expand & improve the interactivity aspects. I can see why this would be very low on the priority list (especially since story wrap up & character developments are massively higher priority and lots and lots of work). Not to mention that a rework/expansion of red room would be a HUGE task.

Reworking the red room scene options & giving them functionality of say Pink Tea Slave Lord of the Galaxy(which is done in non ren‘py iirc)

I guess I was just curious on your thoughts (technical? (It’s impossible), bad idea(not for my game), I hesitate to suggest collaborating with PT (but perfect world & in the interest of making a “Epic Best”) and maybe PT loves you & wants to be a guest programmer)

… no pressure regarding this question I just was curious about your thoughts & if you had experienced the functionality I am referring to.

All of the dungeon content except for Felicity and Emma's need to remade, but I have also planned for 4 training options to be the minimum, so it can certainly get an upgrade in the future.