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shadowtempered

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Not while there are elves being abused out there. We need to keep collecting until we have all of the poor elves who are being harmed by the system.
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Runey could add an elf an update and I prolly wouldn't be bothered as long as the other girls got updates too. They're like pokemon for me.
 

xCrowned

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That's an interesting backstory you've invented. What part of the game says Grandpa ever used or trained her in any sexual way? Because he saw her as his daughter.
In the words of the dev in response to if Ellen and gramps had been intimate: "When Ellen turned 18, she essentially got the same treatment MC is giving the girls." I am more than happy to be wrong, not sure how else to interpret that statement though. We train the girls sexually, to be exhibitionists, in his sex dungeon to be submissive, and we sell pin-ups of them. The backstory might have changed since that statement and they were never intimate. I would gladly eat my words if that is the case.
 
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TheDevian

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In the words of the dev in response to if Ellen and gramps had been intimate: "When Ellen turned 18, she essentially got the same treatment MC is giving the girls." I am more than happy to be wrong, not sure how else to interpret that statement though. We train the girls sexually, to be exhibitionists, in his sex dungeon to be submissive, and we sell pin-ups of them. The backstory might have changed since that statement and they were never intimate. I would gladly eat my words if that is the case.
So what? It's been years at this point. Most people have had previous partners, get over it.
 

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I haven't made a full replay in a long time, but I feel like Ellen herself makes some comment implying that she used to bang grandpa as well. Something about it being too long since she's had a man since Grandpa got old or something like that? I may be remembering wrong, though.

ETA: I don't really consider that sloppy seconds myself, and the post that started this tangent is still the hottest of takes IMO and I disagree with it pretty strongly. Ellen is absolutely on my personal menu.
 

TheDevian

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I haven't made a full replay in a long time, but I feel like Ellen herself makes some comment implying that she used to bang grandpa as well. Something about it being too long since she's had a man since Grandpa got old or something like that? I may be remembering wrong, though.

ETA: I don't really consider that sloppy seconds myself, and the post that started this tangent is still the hottest of takes IMO and I disagree with it pretty strongly. Ellen is absolutely on my personal menu.
That was when the hotel was new, later he spent all his time working on Pixel, and had almost nothing to do with the rest of the hotel. It was a long time ago.
 

xCrowned

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So what? It's been years at this point. Most people have had previous partners, get over it.
He said I had made it up, I informed him I hadn't. I never said the problem was having had previous partners, many of the other girls have, not just Ellen, so stop forcing your assumptions on me. There's no need for you to butt in just to be an ass.
 
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TheDevian

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He said I had made it up, I informed him I hadn't. I never said the problem was having had previous partners, many of the other girls have, not just Ellen, so stop forcing your assumptions on me. There's no need for you to butt in just to be an ass.
You said...
One thing is sloppy seconds, but your grandpa's trained cumdumpster is the sloppiest seconds I've ever seen. On an unrelated note, do we ever get to kill or replace Ellen? Just a random thought I had, no idea why.
This is an honestly preferred alternative to arguing, as I see no way my opinions change on the dried-up cumrag, unless the backstory gets changed or something. Every time I see her I get reminded of her being "trained" by my grandfather from the age of 18, which I find disgusting. Hence my rather aggressive tone.
So, yeah, you did.

Sloppy seconds, is fucking someone immediately after someone else, while they are still wet and full of cum, not like a decade later. No need to slut shame, it's not cool. ESPECIALLY when you are turning people into sluts. Don't be a hypocrite.
This is called a time saver. lol
 

danb35

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if Ellen and gramps had been intimate: "When Ellen turned 18, she essentially got the same treatment MC is giving the girls."
Ah, never mind, then--I'd understood those remarks to refer to the Android. Yes, it's quite obvious that Ellen and Gramps had been intimate.
 
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shadowtempered

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I never said the problem was having had previous partners, many of the other girls have, not just Ellen, so stop forcing your assumptions on me.
I'm curious where you're from that calling a girl "sloppy seconds" several years after her last partner died would imply you don't have an issue with her having previous partners. At some point you can't accuse others of making an assumption when you're straight out admitting it in public.
 
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You said...


So, yeah, you did.

Sloppy seconds, is fucking someone immediately after someone else, while they are still wet and full of cum, not like a decade later. No need to slut shame, it's not cool. ESPECIALLY when you are turning people into sluts. Don't be a hypocrite.
This is called a time saver. lol
oh, still trying to reason with anti-ntr nut jobs. I mean it’s entertaining to watch, but literally smashing your forehead against a wall is probably more productive.
 

TheDevian

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oh, still trying to reason with anti-ntr nut jobs. I mean it’s entertaining to watch, but literally smashing your forehead against a wall is probably more productive.
Hard not to, hypocrisy is a pet peeve of mine. lol
And Slut shaming isn't a lot higher on the list.

Give me a slut who knows what she likes, over a clueless virgin who needs you to show her the ropes any day. Much rather get right to the fun, than have to teach someone the basics ...again. Maria is one of my favorites for a reason.

I am also not into causing unwanted pain, so popping a cherry just doesn't really interest me. Come back to me, when you at least know how your body works. At least play with a toy or something. lol
 

xCrowned

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I'm curious where you're from that calling a girl "sloppy seconds" several years after her last partner died would imply you don't have an issue with her having previous partners. At some point you can't accuse others of making an assumption when you're straight out admitting it in public.
The problem is not having had previous partners at all, it's that I know them. If it was just a problem of having previous partners, why would I just talk about Ellen? But whatever, if you're just going to continue assuming I don't see this going anywhere, so let's just drop it. Not like arguing over how I feel is going to change anything.
 
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Hard not to, hypocrisy is a pet peeve of mine. lol
And Slut shaming isn't a lot higher on the list.

Give me a slut who knows what she likes, over a clueless virgin who needs you to show her the ropes any day. Much rather get right to the fun, than have to teach someone the basics ...again. Maria is one of my favorites for a reason.

I am also not into causing unwanted pain, so popping a cherry just doesn't really interest me. Come back to me, when you at least know how your body works. At least play with a toy or something. lol
Give me a Slut who knows what she likes over what she craves .. and there is something to be said about innocent and naive, one of the things that makes it so much fun.
 
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TheDevian

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Give me a Slut who knows what she likes over what she craves .. and there is something to be said about innocent and naive, one of the things that makes it so much fun.
To some degree, but it gets old, fast. At least when it comes to sex. I don't want to have to guess. How can I know if we are compatible if I don't know your kinks, you know?

Besides, someone who has never had sex, telling you how good you are, doesn't have the same impact as someone who has a basis of comparison. lol
 

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Where did MC make Maria stop streaming? He didn't want her to stream when they did anal, that was it--that was going to be for them, not for her fans. She decided on her own to stop streaming (though the fan finding her at the hotel--which MC had nothing to do with--was obviously a big factor).
I think there was more that played into her stopping the streaming. Personally, and I may be wrong here, but I always understood it that she stopped streaming after her capture. I can somewhat rationalize this, arguing that she knew about the sanctuary, and after her own capture realized that if the authorities really looked closely into things, then they'd discover that, and the MC would suffer for it. Meaning, her streaming could potentially draw more attention to the hotel than she might otherwise want. She may have spoken to the MC about it off screen at some point, or more likely one of the elves in the sanctuary, and came to the decision herself.
 
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