Ren'Py Harem Hotel [v0.19.1] [Runey]

[Wisblade]

Runey : Nice update, even if I think this one SEEMS a bit short - but the below message may explain it.

The lack of update for Maim Lain's mod gave me the urge to propose you some possible upgrades, maybe...
NOTE: I don't want to discuss about the mod itself here, neither about Maim Lain, or anything else. There's a thread for that.

First, an obvious but significant observation: I think that when a game "requires" (or benefits so much from) a mod, then there is probably something missing in the game itself. I think that it's a constructive criticism: nobody's perfect, everything can be upgraded and, being a dev myself - even not in lewd games - I know that, sometimes, we don't see obvious improvements / simplifications because our own mindset is wired to use more complex behaviors.

• Interface: clearly, mod's interface for following progressions is better (everything is seen in a single panel). I think you should really get some ideas here: following these progressions is currently annoying, because everything is dispatched in per-girl panels. And it's a harem game, so we ALL follow SEVERAL girls. I think that a panel for main girls and one for side girls should be better - it doesn't requires to remove current individual panels, but to upgrade the current information panel only.
  I know that there is the little icons at bottom/right of new day screen, but the icons aren't so easy to recognize, and when playing on a fast computer, they aren't displayed enough time to be clearly seen - but it's a proof that you HAVE this information easily accessible, so it can be displayed elsewhere, too.
• When a quest/story requires to wait several days, it should be written in the girl's status. The location where it will continue would be a great thing. "Chasing" a girl during a whole week is simply boring.
• Inside mod, there is several "cheat sheets" to indicate where girls are, considering day and time. Honestly, while playing, we can all remember that - more or less. But after several months and when starting a new update, we forgot a lot. It's simply annoying, and I think that searching the girls in every location don't add anything neither to the game nor to the gameplay.
  Can you add these informations to the "Info" panel? Or to a "Help" panel? I think that the upper panel can be easily reduced (no need for 4 icons for time, it can changes instead of moving a cursor) and so new buttons can be added easily without getting a huge thing on top of screen.
• Some grindings are really annoying: getting the "Buttslut" trait for both Emma and Felicity was annoying - they can't do a lot per day. Some are even worse, like "Paizuri Star" with Autumn. Maybe lower the number to 5 instead of 10 to get the trait? Or allow to "repeat" a scene instead of advancing time constantly? Or get the trait once it was done in each costume?
• Grinding again: the mod was showing every possible scene done (or missing!) for each girl and each location. Currently, ingame, I don't see anything like this. Did I got all dungeon scenes for each girls? All beach scenes? All cafe scenes? I don't know. I CANNOT know, but trying to redo ALL of them - dude, it takes HOURS to do so!!
  Can you add a resume panel to show all these informations? Because I think that this is the reason why I think that this update is "short"...
• Riddles aren't so obvious for non-native speakers. Maybe change them to more obvious/international ones? Being forced to switch to an Internet search for something obvious for a native teenager (to not say child sometimes) is quite frustrating. I was heavily helped by the mod, for this part.
• Cheating: once money is high enough, no real cheats are needed, but to change slave/love route for the Sanctuary - I'll develop this below. However, it MAY be useful to allow the money cheat to be used more than once, without editing the save file and/or use the Ren'Py console. Or simply increase the income significantly...

Slave/love route for Sanctuary:
I think that I'm not alone to wish to see both scenes. But honestly, grinding TWO TIMES everything is just above what I can do - the game is too big and there is too much grinding for that. So I was used, once completed the main route ("Love" for me) and once all grinding was done, to save in a secondary slot, use the mod to change the route and speedrun it (since it was reseted to the very beginning, sadly...) in order to get the new "Slave" scenes.
Isn't it possible to allow an EASY access to these "other routes" scenes? Even if it's only once the current update is fully finished - at least for everything related to Sanctuary? It's always frustrating to KNOW that you are missing content...

Thanks for everything anyway, it's always a pleasure to get a new update of HH.

 

[TheHighlander]

Runey : Nice update, even if I think this one SEEMS a bit short - but the below message may explain it.

The lack of update for Maim Lain's mod gave me the urge to propose you some possible upgrades, maybe...
NOTE: I don't want to discuss about the mod itself here, neither about Maim Lain, or anything else. There's a thread for that.

First, an obvious but significant observation: I think that when a game "requires" (or benefits so much from) a mod, then there is probably something missing in the game itself. I think that it's a constructive criticism: nobody's perfect, everything can be upgraded and, being a dev myself - even not in lewd games - I know that, sometimes, we don't see obvious improvements / simplifications because our own mindset is wired to use more complex behaviors.

• Interface: clearly, mod's interface for following progressions is better (everything is seen in a single panel). I think you should really get some ideas here: following these progressions is currently annoying, because everything is dispatched in per-girl panels. And it's a harem game, so we ALL follow SEVERAL girls. I think that a panel for main girls and one for side girls should be better - it doesn't requires to remove current individual panels, but to upgrade the current information panel only.
  I know that there is the little icons at bottom/right of new day screen, but the icons aren't so easy to recognize, and when playing on a fast computer, they aren't displayed enough time to be clearly seen - but it's a proof that you HAVE this information easily accessible, so it can be displayed elsewhere, too.
• When a quest/story requires to wait several days, it should be written in the girl's status. The location where it will continue would be a great thing. "Chasing" a girl during a whole week is simply boring.
• Inside mod, there is several "cheat sheets" to indicate where girls are, considering day and time. Honestly, while playing, we can all remember that - more or less. But after several months and when starting a new update, we forgot a lot. It's simply annoying, and I think that searching the girls in every location don't add anything neither to the game nor to the gameplay.
  Can you add these informations to the "Info" panel? Or to a "Help" panel? I think that the upper panel can be easily reduced (no need for 4 icons for time, it can changes instead of moving a cursor) and so new buttons can be added easily without getting a huge thing on top of screen.
• Some grindings are really annoying: getting the "Buttslut" trait for both Emma and Felicity was annoying - they can't do a lot per day. Some are even worse, like "Paizuri Star" with Autumn. Maybe lower the number to 5 instead of 10 to get the trait? Or allow to "repeat" a scene instead of advancing time constantly? Or get the trait once it was done in each costume?
• Grinding again: the mod was showing every possible scene done (or missing!) for each girl and each location. Currently, ingame, I don't see anything like this. Did I got all dungeon scenes for each girls? All beach scenes? All cafe scenes? I don't know. I CANNOT know, but trying to redo ALL of them - dude, it takes HOURS to do so!!
  Can you add a resume panel to show all these informations? Because I think that this is the reason why I think that this update is "short"...
• Riddles aren't so obvious for non-native speakers. Maybe change them to more obvious/international ones? Being forced to switch to an Internet search for something obvious for a native teenager (to not say child sometimes) is quite frustrating. I was heavily helped by the mod, for this part.
• Cheating: once money is high enough, no real cheats are needed, but to change slave/love route for the Sanctuary - I'll develop this below. However, it MAY be useful to allow the money cheat to be used more than once, without editing the save file and/or use the Ren'Py console. Or simply increase the income significantly...

Slave/love route for Sanctuary:
I think that I'm not alone to wish to see both scenes. But honestly, grinding TWO TIMES everything is just above what I can do - the game is too big and there is too much grinding for that. So I was used, once completed the main route ("Love" for me) and once all grinding was done, to save in a secondary slot, use the mod to change the route and speedrun it (since it was reseted to the very beginning, sadly...) in order to get the new "Slave" scenes.
Isn't it possible to allow an EASY access to these "other routes" scenes? Even if it's only once the current update is fully finished - at least for everything related to Sanctuary? It's always frustrating to KNOW that you are missing content...

Thanks for everything anyway, it's always a pleasure to get a new update of HH.

This man gets it!!! Well said!!

 

[Moonblowt]

android version please....

 

[c3p0]

android version please....

Aren't two droids enough already? Greedy I say.

Either use joyplay (link for explanation in the OP) or use one crunched android version, if available (for this, use the search or look at the OP). If you want to know why it didn't exist a "native" android version anymore, the (uncomprossed) game is around 80 GB big and an good working app needs to be less than 2 GB. If you need more detail, use the search.

The fairies are lucky that the don't lose a wing each time a question is ask that was already answered more than 10 times...

 

[Horny Toad]

Because of the various changes that has happened, I decided to start from the beginning. I'm not at where the various friendships are at 28-30 for most of the women, except Ashley who I have at 38. Just did them when they came up. Bought Jin, and Anne and Nia but can't afford Sylvia just yet.

Problem is when I try to continue Lin's story, I need to buy Sylvia, but Jin's story has continued, and I went into Lin's bedroom which made the story about Jin's drugs. And that made them go visit the other elves, which showed Sylvia. This shouldn't have happened, so I went back and held off there.

Another problem was I didn't do all the bar stories yet, so I just witnessed Maria get arrested for being a Half-Elf. So she shouldn't be available, so she shouldn't be working in the bar in the evening. Well, I went into the bar and the story with Moon and Maria doing "Never Have I Ever" started. So I guess I'm going to have to go back and wait a little for that.

Also the odd date stated things that haven't happened yet. But otherwise it's been enjoyable to see the new things. Still got the new stories to do.

 

[Runey]

Runey : Nice update, even if I think this one SEEMS a bit short - but the below message may explain it.

The lack of update for Maim Lain's mod gave me the urge to propose you some possible upgrades, maybe...
NOTE: I don't want to discuss about the mod itself here, neither about Maim Lain, or anything else. There's a thread for that.

First, an obvious but significant observation: I think that when a game "requires" (or benefits so much from) a mod, then there is probably something missing in the game itself. I think that it's a constructive criticism: nobody's perfect, everything can be upgraded and, being a dev myself - even not in lewd games - I know that, sometimes, we don't see obvious improvements / simplifications because our own mindset is wired to use more complex behaviors.

• Interface: clearly, mod's interface for following progressions is better (everything is seen in a single panel). I think you should really get some ideas here: following these progressions is currently annoying, because everything is dispatched in per-girl panels. And it's a harem game, so we ALL follow SEVERAL girls. I think that a panel for main girls and one for side girls should be better - it doesn't requires to remove current individual panels, but to upgrade the current information panel only.
  I know that there is the little icons at bottom/right of new day screen, but the icons aren't so easy to recognize, and when playing on a fast computer, they aren't displayed enough time to be clearly seen - but it's a proof that you HAVE this information easily accessible, so it can be displayed elsewhere, too.

Harem Hotel shouldn't require a mod or walkthrough at all. All events tell you exactly what you need to do, when, and where it happens. If there is a spot it doesn't, I need to be made aware of it. No one has been able to tell me a spot in the game where they have gotten stuck since v0.14 launched (aside from android's human kit, which is being fixed). I am currently under the impression that Harem Hotel is very simple to play, but if there is a confusing spot, please point it out to me! I want to make the base experience of Harem Hotel the smoothest ride possible.

I have no clue what the mod interface looks like, and I'm not too sure what you're explaining here, but I'm not interested in turning Harem Hotel into a menu clicking simulator. Currently you can view main character stats by clicking the "i" button, and you can view side character stats by going to Misc Info after that.

The game pauses on that screen for exactly 3 seconds when it's not raining, and 5 seconds when it is raining. This was actually not intended and is changing in v0.14.1 to wait for your click to continue, so you can view those icons for however long you would like.

• When a quest/story requires to wait several days, it should be written in the girl's status. The location where it will continue would be a great thing. "Chasing" a girl during a whole week is simply boring.

As it says at the very beginning of the game, story events start on * Talk * options on their door. There is also a chance for it to happen elsewhere, but checking their door should ALWAYS tell you where they are. There should be no need for chasing, because the game will tell you exactly where they are and the conditions needed to be met. If this isn't the case somewhere, please let me know. I will fix that.

• Inside mod, there is several "cheat sheets" to indicate where girls are, considering day and time. Honestly, while playing, we can all remember that - more or less. But after several months and when starting a new update, we forgot a lot. It's simply annoying, and I think that searching the girls in every location don't add anything neither to the game nor to the gameplay.
  Can you add these informations to the "Info" panel? Or to a "Help" panel? I think that the upper panel can be easily reduced (no need for 4 icons for time, it can changes instead of moving a cursor) and so new buttons can be added easily without getting a huge thing on top of screen.

All this information should be clearly stated at some point. MC has almost omniscient god levels of intelligence when it comes to when and where every girl he knows is. MC will even say "I have a feeling I should buy Ashley's slutty schoolgirl outfit" unprompted. So again, if this isn't the case anywhere in the game, and anything is confusing at all, please tell me! I will fix it.

• Some grindings are really annoying: getting the "Buttslut" trait for both Emma and Felicity was annoying - they can't do a lot per day. Some are even worse, like "Paizuri Star" with Autumn. Maybe lower the number to 5 instead of 10 to get the trait? Or allow to "repeat" a scene instead of advancing time constantly? Or get the trait once it was done in each costume?

Requiring 5 points in any stat for the trait means they become masters at that option in just 2 days. There are 4 options in a day where you can have sex, so normally, that trait could be completed in under a week of in game time, or just a few minutes. With your suggested change, they would become masters in barely more than a single day.

• Grinding again: the mod was showing every possible scene done (or missing!) for each girl and each location. Currently, ingame, I don't see anything like this. Did I got all dungeon scenes for each girls? All beach scenes? All cafe scenes? I don't know. I CANNOT know, but trying to redo ALL of them - dude, it takes HOURS to do so!!
  Can you add a resume panel to show all these informations? Because I think that this is the reason why I think that this update is "short"...

All options are present during the dungeon scenes, beach scenes, and cafe scenes. You can know because it literally shows you. When an option is greyed out, it is because you can't do it. Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying, and you're saying you can't remember if you saw all the scenes so you want something to show you have? I can generally remember if I've done Maria's 2nd exhibitionism scene for example, and clicking it once and seeing what happens for a few seconds is more than enough to jog my memory, so I can simply scroll back.

• Riddles aren't so obvious for non-native speakers. Maybe change them to more obvious/international ones? Being forced to switch to an Internet search for something obvious for a native teenager (to not say child sometimes) is quite frustrating. I was heavily helped by the mod, for this part.

Translators will likely change the riddles to make more sense in other languages. I'm sorry, but I'm an english speaker, this game is designed for english speakers.

• Cheating: once money is high enough, no real cheats are needed, but to change slave/love route for the Sanctuary - I'll develop this below. However, it MAY be useful to allow the money cheat to be used more than once, without editing the save file and/or use the Ren'Py console. Or simply increase the income significantly...

Slave/love route for Sanctuary:
I think that I'm not alone to wish to see both scenes. But honestly, grinding TWO TIMES everything is just above what I can do - the game is too big and there is too much grinding for that. So I was used, once completed the main route ("Love" for me) and once all grinding was done, to save in a secondary slot, use the mod to change the route and speedrun it (since it was reseted to the very beginning, sadly...) in order to get the new "Slave" scenes.
Isn't it possible to allow an EASY access to these "other routes" scenes? Even if it's only once the current update is fully finished - at least for everything related to Sanctuary? It's always frustrating to KNOW that you are missing content...

Thanks for everything anyway, it's always a pleasure to get a new update of HH.

Why would you restart the entire game for the other route? Haha, you could have just saved before the option and make two different save paths. There's an infinite amount of saves for this reason. You can also change their routes using a cheat code, but this isn't something I would do in the story.

No, these are completely separate routes which are incompatible with each other. The reason you can't see both at the same time is because it would make no sense. But this has nothing to do with a walkthrough.

 

[Deleted member 3784312]

good

 

[kunkunman3000]

i am unable to buy human android kit for my android is it a bug?

 

[Runey]

Because of the various changes that has happened, I decided to start from the beginning. I'm not at where the various friendships are at 28-30 for most of the women, except Ashley who I have at 38. Just did them when they came up. Bought Jin, and Anne and Nia but can't afford Sylvia just yet.

Problem is when I try to continue Lin's story, I need to buy Sylvia, but Jin's story has continued, and I went into Lin's bedroom which made the story about Jin's drugs. And that made them go visit the other elves, which showed Sylvia. This shouldn't have happened, so I went back and held off there.

Another problem was I didn't do all the bar stories yet, so I just witnessed Maria get arrested for being a Half-Elf. So she shouldn't be available, so she shouldn't be working in the bar in the evening. Well, I went into the bar and the story with Moon and Maria doing "Never Have I Ever" started. So I guess I'm going to have to go back and wait a little for that.

Also the odd date stated things that haven't happened yet. But otherwise it's been enjoyable to see the new things. Still got the new stories to do.

If I understand you correctly...
Jia's second event involves Nia and Sylvia, and not does check to see if they are in the sanctuary. Fixed.
And Maria appears in the "never have I ever" event when she shouldn't. Fixed.

Please report any inconsistencies so I can fix them.

i am unable to buy human android kit for my android is it a bug?

Advance Android's friendship a bit. This will be fixed in v0.14.1

 

[Deleted member 2755092]

Requiring 5 points in any stat for the trait means they become masters at that option in just 2 days. There are 4 options in a day where you can have sex, so normally, that trait could be completed in under a week of in game time, or just a few minutes. With your suggested change, they would become masters in barely more than a single day.

I think it becomes lengthy, because of the amount of fetishes/options, and the amount of characters.
It took me a while to find where things like footjobs were (exhib on the beach only, I could not find the option anywhere else) for one character for example.

I believe there's up to five or six stats to raise, with each girls. Since they're not available at all time, for obvious reasons, and that several activities are also limited in time, and not obvious if you did not take note of which activities they are part of, it can become pretty annoying to just grind the stats, just to grind it at that point

There also seems to be some inconstancy with the cum fetish, where some actions, when you pull out, do not increase the count when having sex, I'm not sure if that is intended or not, but if it's meant to be on a specific part of the body, it might need to be renamed to be clearer (just a suggestion of course.)=

Since I did not play for a long time, I had to replay from scratch, which took me well, a while, as there's shit load of content in that game ^_^.

What "could" potentially work, maybe, is that if you complete "higher level" fetishes first, the lower level ones increases faster when you do them, maybe?
But I think I can understand the feeling of the poster on this, it does get quite grindy due to the sheer amount of characters and actions once you add them up.

 

[Horny Toad]

If I understand you correctly...
Jia's second event involves Nia and Sylvia, and not does check to see if they are in the sanctuary. Fixed.
And Maria appears in the "never have I ever" event when she shouldn't. Fixed.

Please report any inconsistencies so I can fix them.

Yep, I hoped I made sense. Trying to describe and write things isn't the easiest for me. (It's not numbers). But I think you understood perfectly. Thanks for the quick response.

 

[Horny Toad]

Actually just came across another one. Lin's lust came up twice at the day, first one was the 3/9, which I sent her away. Then she came right back at the 6/9 level. Maria has not come back yet, so she shouldn't be available, but the option is there. Lin says she's not available, but then it continues as usual with Maria.

 

[Deleted member 2691156]

Harem Hotel shouldn't require a mod or walkthrough at all. All events tell you exactly what you need to do, when, and where it happens.

They do?

 

[shadowtempered]

Minor graphic bug, not sure if it's reported. When doing the twin's dungeon anal tail scene, when it goes from static image to animation, there's a slight gap between the renders which gives a transparent white/gray checker board. It's super brief, but I had it happen 2-3 times in that event since it transitions between animations.

They do?

I just replayed through the game with a new save and it did for me. I can't think of a single instance on my new run that it didn't tell me where the girl was at to progress the story with them. Even Moon has a "Come back near closing" message when visiting the bar.

 

[Horny Toad]

Another one, the andriod's lust is at 6/9, and I did the option to let someone else have control. Maria is still arrested, but the option is there and it is allowed to continue.

 

[Runey]

I think it becomes lengthy, because of the amount of fetishes/options, and the amount of characters.
It took me a while to find where things like footjobs were (exhib on the beach only, I could not find the option anywhere else) for one character for example.

I believe there's up to five or six stats to raise, with each girls. Since they're not available at all time, for obvious reasons, and that several activities are also limited in time, and not obvious if you did not take note of which activities they are part of, it can become pretty annoying to just grind the stats, just to grind it at that point

At that point, the grind is up to you isn't it? If you don't particularly enjoy anal, there's no need to get the anal stat. If you do like anal, then getting the trait likely wouldn't feel like a grind, right? Players can even mix it up with outfits so it's a bit more interesting. The anal trait isn't a requirement for story, just more anal content.

There also seems to be some inconstancy with the cum fetish, where some actions, when you pull out, do not increase the count when having sex, I'm not sure if that is intended or not, but if it's meant to be on a specific part of the body, it might need to be renamed to be clearer (just a suggestion of course.)=

Are you saying the sex number doesn't increase when cumming on them? Or the cum dump stat doesn't raise when cumming on them? Wherever this bug happens, please let me know and I will fix it.

Since I did not play for a long time, I had to replay from scratch, which took me well, a while, as there's shit load of content in that game ^_^.

What "could" potentially work, maybe, is that if you complete "higher level" fetishes first, the lower level ones increases faster when you do them, maybe?
But I think I can understand the feeling of the poster on this, it does get quite grindy due to the sheer amount of characters and actions once you add them up.

I am not sure how that would look. But I think it's important to also keep the length of the game in mind.

Here, I'll tell you where my mind is that, let me know what you think:
Let's say a player really enjoys anal. They're going to discover fairly early on that Lin has a fetish for Anal, I imagine the player would experience the repeatable at least once or twice after seeing the story event, which lands them at 3 anal points for Lin. Throug continuing her story and playing the game, the player will unlock new outfits, and wish to reexperience the content they enjoy with a new flavor, which will likely increase the stat 1 - 3 more times. Then more characters will unlock, this player would likely play the other anal content, and eventually come back for Lin's later on because it's been a while and maybe they want the trait. At this point, Lin's anal stat is probably around 5 - 7 already, all while around friendship 20 for Lin (and reminder, this is mostly assumptions based on feedback). By this time, more outfits will be available, and maybe you'll even see these options appear in story events or dungeon events, or exhibitionism events, which include unique animations for that stat. So the player may find themselves very close to that 10 point mark just through passively experiencing the game and playing the story at around friendship 30 if not sooner.

But maybe some of my assumptions are off, it's possible. Maybe something like 7 points instead of 10 would fit nicer. Harem Hotel has required 10 for a very long time though and it has seemed like 10 has been a very solid number this whole time, and more content is always being included. There should be a few different animations with different themes for each sexual option in the future.

 

[Runey]

Minor graphic bug, not sure if it's reported. When doing the twin's dungeon anal tail scene, when it goes from static image to animation, there's a slight gap between the renders which gives a transparent white/gray checker board. It's super brief, but I had it happen 2-3 times in that event since it transitions between animations.


I just replayed through the game with a new save and it did for me. I can't think of a single instance on my new run that it didn't tell me where the girl was at to progress the story with them. Even Moon has a "Come back near closing" message when visiting the bar.

Thanks for the report, I'll look into it.
In your replay, you haven't found yourself stuck at all?
How about the stats? Did they feel nice to level up, for the ones you wanted to level up?

The best feedback would be from a new player who first experiences this, but all feedback is great to know.

 

[Deleted member 2755092]

At that point, the grind is up to you isn't it? If you don't particularly enjoy anal, there's no need to get the anal stat. If you do like anal, then getting the trait likely wouldn't feel like a grind, right? Players can even mix it up with outfits so it's a bit more interesting. The anal trait isn't a requirement for story, just more anal content.

Aye, individually, sure. But, many of us I think, will try to get everything maxed out, because there's always a chance at some point, that fetish might need to be superior to an unknown X number or something like that, and well, some of us do like our sluts to be well trained in all aspects . I agree it is our choice to do it, but considering the humongous amount of content and character there is, it does take a long time
For standard stuff (sex, anal, blowjobs), it's not too bad, since once you've unlocked them you usually can do them several times a day, but "more specialized things", like the ones only available on beach events if memory serves, can only be done once (maybe twice) a day. I ended up giving up myself, and just editing the stats to complete a few of them.

Are you saying the sex number doesn't increase when cumming on them? Or the cum dump stat doesn't raise when cumming on them? Wherever this bug happens, please let me know and I will fix it.

Yes that's exactly that. I believe it was on all sex events (anal and vaginal), I could be wrong, but I think it was in the dungeon that it did not increase, but I could be wrong there.

I am not sure how that would look. But I think it's important to also keep the length of the game in mind.

Here, I'll tell you where my mind is that, let me know what you think:
Let's say a player really enjoys anal. They're going to discover fairly early on that Lin has a fetish for Anal, I imagine the player would experience the repeatable at least once or twice after seeing the story event, which lands them at 3 anal points for Lin. Throug continuing her story and playing the game, the player will unlock new outfits, and wish to reexperience the content they enjoy with a new flavor, which will likely increase the stat 1 - 3 more times. Then more characters will unlock, this player would likely play the other anal content, and eventually come back for Lin's later on because it's been a while and maybe they want the trait. At this point, Lin's anal stat is probably around 5 - 7 already, all while around friendship 20 - 30 for Lin (and reminder, this is mostly assumptions based on feedback). By this time, more outfits will be available, and maybe you'll even see these options appear in story events or dungeon events, or exhibitionism events, which include unique animations for that stat. So the player may find themselves very close to that 10 point mark just through passively experiencing the game and playing the story.

But maybe some of my assumptions are off, it's possible. Maybe something like 7 points instead of 10 would fit nicer. Harem Hotel has required 10 for a very long time though and it has seemed like 10 has been a very solid number this whole time, and more content is always being included. There should be a few different animations with different themes for each sexual option in the future.

This goes back with my reply above, for the "standard stuff" that can be done more than once a day, it's ok enough I recon. But the more exotic things, on some characters, can take a while to do. I think it was the footjob and handjob events on the beach that took me a while to do, with the characters going to school/work and so on, the event I think is not even available everyday if I'm not mistaken.
You may only need to look at the special events (cafe/exhib/beach), I'm pretty sure those are the only ones really taking longer than the rest.

 

[Runey]

Aye, individually, sure. But, many of us I think, will try to get everything maxed out, because there's always a chance at some point, that fetish might need to be superior to an unknown X number or something like that, and well, some of us do like our sluts to be well trained in all aspects . I agree it is our choice to do it, but considering the humongous amount of content and character there is, it does take a long time
For standard stuff (sex, anal, blowjobs), it's not too bad, since once you've unlocked them you usually can do them several times a day, but "more specialized things", like the ones only available on beach events if memory serves, can only be done once (maybe twice) a day. I ended up giving up myself, and just editing the stats to complete a few of them.


Yes that's exactly that. I believe it was on all sex events (anal and vaginal), I could be wrong, but I think it was in the dungeon that it did not increase, but I could be wrong there.


This goes back with my reply above, for the "standard stuff" that can be done more than once a day, it's ok enough I recon. But the more exotic things, on some characters, can take a while to do. I think it was the footjob and handjob events on the beach that took me a while to do, with the characters going to school/work and so on, the event I think is not even available everyday if I'm not mistaken.
You may only need to look at the special events (cafe/exhib/beach), I'm pretty sure those are the only ones really taking longer than the rest.

I can see why handjobs and footjobs would be harder, because that content is barely used and mostly can only be found in one spot. Passively getting those is probably impossible. That content also doesn't unlock anything at all, so it's actually fairly pointless to level up the handjob or footjob stats for the trait alone. But content at the cafe or beach is available any time the character is, and any time any of their other sexual options are. Characters being unavailable is a game mechanic to incentivize you to do other things, like advance another character's story.

 

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I can see why handjobs and footjobs would be harder, because that content is barely used and mostly can only be found in one spot.

May I kindly suggest to increase the points gained for it then? Since it'll have no impact, other than you know....