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redoubt27

Active Member
Mar 6, 2024
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I figured it has to be something when you are at the computer and select NTR. After that, you either speak to Rachel about it (netorase) or keep it a secret (netorare). Those two words have been "discussed" so many times on F95 that I'm always left confused. So, I guess when you discuss with Rachel your feelings, you are on a share Rachel with others path and when you keep your feelings to yourself, it's a cheating path?
Depends on your path/choices.
I asked about the 'faithful' path earlier, Dev said there's a code issue that will be fixed in next update.
Otherwise, yeah, if you pick netorase it'll be consensual, netorare will be cheating.

As for netorare vs netorase.
They're both Japanese terms, and semantics/meaning doesn't always translate well.
Generally...
Netorare - yes, cheating, cuckold, without MC's knowledge/consent, and wife/gf/LI is at risk of being stolen away...
Netorase - best English translation is wittol/wittold, an English word that is considered archaic and no longer in modern, common use. It means knowing, acquiescent cuckold. But since cuckold has a negative connotation, in porn/fetish terms, the word netorase pretty much covers all situations where the husband/bf knows, consents, or encourages, his wife/gf having sex with other men. So, it covers cuckold fetish, hotwife, sharing, stag/vixen, swinging, etc...
The primary difference of course being, the husband knows about it...

People try to make NTR vs NTS more complicated than it really is, but that's because of the negative connotation and lack of understanding about the meaning of the word cuckold, and by extension the cuckold fetish...
 
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ohyeaho

Newbie
Jan 2, 2017
47
76
Depends on your path/choices.
I asked about the 'faithful' path earlier, Dev said there's a code issue that will be fixed in next update.
Otherwise, yeah, if you pick netorase it'll be consensual, netorare will be cheating.

As for netorare vs netorase.
They're both Japanese terms, and semantics/meaning doesn't always translate well.
Generally...
Netorare - yes, cheating, cuckold, without MC's knowledge/consent, and wife/gf/LI is at risk of being stolen away...
Netorase - best English translation is wittol/wittold, an English word that is considered archaic and no longer in modern, common use. It means knowing, acquiescent cuckold. But since cuckold has a negative connotation, in porn/fetish terms, the word netorase pretty much covers all situations where the husband/bf knows, consents, or encourages, his wife/gf having sex with other men. So, it covers cuckold fetish, hotwife, sharing, stag/vixen, swinging, etc...
The primary difference of course being, the husband knows about it...

People try to make NTR vs NTS more complicated than it really is, but that's because of the negative connotation and lack of understanding about the meaning of the word cuckold, and by extension the cuckold fetish...
There's a 3rd one call Netori.
Where you the person is the one stealing away a person love one instead.
F95 should probably make tags to differentiate the 3, instead of it all falling under NTR like everywhere else, so people can stop complaining.
NTR for Netorare.
NTS for Netorase.
NTI for Netori. (Your average person favorite and what they are probably actually looking for when searching the NTR tag!)
 

Marc9

Member
Jan 22, 2023
258
383
SOMETHING I missed in was scenes of the husband watching his wife having sex with other guys, and I hope that this route of this game has a lot of that and that the developer can create scenes of the husband masturbating while watching his wife being fucked by other men. This is rarely seen in games.

IT WOULD be good when the cuckold theme comes up in the story, for the wife to research it to understand what it is and gradually question why her husband gets excited when thinking about her with other men.
 

gatoterran

Newbie
May 27, 2019
75
101
I got this error (EDIT: I fond the error, it was a rogue 1 in the "lloyd_with_jennifer")

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/scripts/102.rpy", line 393, in script
if jennifer_path1 == True:
File "game/scripts/102.rpy", line 405, in <module>
elif lloyd_with_jennifer1 == True:
NameError: name 'lloyd_with_jennifer1' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/scripts/102.rpy", line 393, in script
if jennifer_path1 == True:
File "C:\Users\Pc\Documents\Otros\HarmonyHaven-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1845, in execute
if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
File "C:\Users\Pc\Documents\Otros\HarmonyHaven-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1209, in py_eval
return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
File "C:\Users\Pc\Documents\Otros\HarmonyHaven-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1202, in py_eval_bytecode
return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/scripts/102.rpy", line 405, in <module>
elif lloyd_with_jennifer1 == True:
NameError: name 'lloyd_with_jennifer1' is not defined
 
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blkcrow20

Engaged Member
Nov 5, 2023
3,068
5,951
Depends on your path/choices.
I asked about the 'faithful' path earlier, Dev said there's a code issue that will be fixed in next update.
Otherwise, yeah, if you pick netorase it'll be consensual, netorare will be cheating.

As for netorare vs netorase.
They're both Japanese terms, and semantics/meaning doesn't always translate well.
Generally...
Netorare - yes, cheating, cuckold, without MC's knowledge/consent, and wife/gf/LI is at risk of being stolen away...
Netorase - best English translation is wittol/wittold, an English word that is considered archaic and no longer in modern, common use. It means knowing, acquiescent cuckold. But since cuckold has a negative connotation, in porn/fetish terms, the word netorase pretty much covers all situations where the husband/bf knows, consents, or encourages, his wife/gf having sex with other men. So, it covers cuckold fetish, hotwife, sharing, stag/vixen, swinging, etc...
The primary difference of course being, the husband knows about it...

People try to make NTR vs NTS more complicated than it really is, but that's because of the negative connotation and lack of understanding about the meaning of the word cuckold, and by extension the cuckold fetish...
NTS is basically sharing/swinging/hotwife/open relationship. I prefer it without humiliation and hate that damned word cuck. :)
 

bababooi

Newbie
Jun 28, 2017
90
88
Is this update bugged or is the husband forced to go to the cuckold website and explore his hidden desires even if you've kept ntr curiosity to a 0?

If it's not a bug what's even the point of having NTR points if you can't avoid this.
 

bababooi

Newbie
Jun 28, 2017
90
88
What's the point of accessing games with netorare tags if you not like netorare?

Look for other games and don't keep annoying the developer to change the game itself.
It's not just an ntr game, it's also a female protagonist cheating game, that's the very, very simple point, and it is strange that you could not comprehend this without an explanation.

It also really really seemed like the NTR content would be controllable with the highly visible variable and choice system, but it seems that may have been misleading BS, and you're awkwardly railroaded into his 'hidden desire' not only with no natural build up, but even when actively resisting it. And again i ask, what is the point of having choices that let you fully avoid 'NTR curiosity' points if you're going to be forced onto an 'NTR curiosity' path regardless.
 
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respirit

Member
Game Developer
Jan 30, 2021
125
1,283
It's not just an ntr game, it's also a female protagonist cheating game, that's the very, very simple point, and it is strange that you could not comprehend this without an explanation.

It also really really seemed like the NTR content would be controllable with the highly visible variable and choice system, but it seems that may have been misleading BS, and you're awkwardly railroaded into his 'hidden desire' not only with no natural build up, but even when actively resisting it. And again i ask, what is the point of having choices that let you fully avoid 'NTR curiosity' points if you're going to be forced onto an 'NTR curiosity' path regardless.
https://f95zone.to/threads/harmony-haven-ch-1-v1-0-respirit.218474/post-16970884
 

wherewouldi

New Member
Mar 24, 2024
5
4
Got an exception:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/scripts/102.rpy", line 393, in script
if jennifer_path1 == True:
File "game/scripts/102.rpy", line 405, in <module>
elif lloyd_with_jennifer1 == True:
NameError: name 'lloyd_with_jennifer1' is not defined
 

lv3175

Newbie
Mar 3, 2018
31
50
There's a 3rd one call Netori.
Where you the person is the one stealing away a person love one instead.
F95 should probably make tags to differentiate the 3, instead of it all falling under NTR like everywhere else, so people can stop complaining.
NTR for Netorare.
NTS for Netorase.
NTI for Netori. (Your average person favorite and what they are probably actually looking for when searching the NTR tag!)
Or F95 could just stop using it in their tags at all, removing NTR/NTS and the rest, and just use simple tags like 'mc cheats', 'mc cheated on' etc. The way wars of NTR vs Anti-NTR break out so often on here it would be an improvement to remove it entirely. Plus we could avoid the countless explanations and debates of what is or isn't NTR that also spring up constantly. I mean if your not Japanese why use a Japanese cultural reference? It just seems to be a sore spot and contested issue so why not get rid of it?
 
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