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Think I found a softlock, resting at the dude's hut in the village makes you unable to move after you wake up.

I mean, futa-on-futa is good stuff and that (typically) has one of the futas acting a little subbier. Femdom where the sub is a futa is also good.
Nope. Why give a woman the dom baton if she isn't going to dom?
Unlike a man/trap there isn't even 'role reversal' to play with or an expectation to subvert.
It's just a waste of futacock. The same nonsensicality as having a flopping strapon on a woman getting fucked in the asshole.
 

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Nope. Why give a woman the dom baton if she isn't going to dom?
Unlike a man/trap there isn't even 'role reversal' to play with or an expectation to subvert.
It's just a waste of futacock. The same nonsensicality as having a flopping strapon on a woman getting fucked in the asshole.
Counter point, what's the point of Futa if you aren't going to use both sets of giggity bits? I much prefer futa on female obviously, just playing devils advocate.
 

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Liking the game far as I tried it but yeah lost my progress because after the spider queen fight I was so low on mp so when I got another slime fight before getting out Alicia got knocked out and no matter where I looked I couldn't find a way to revive her since neither the healing wells or sleeping helped nor could I find any item in the shop. So I tried to see if going solo would help but that just got me a game over and since I hadn't saved yet in the game I had to start over.

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Counter point, what's the point of Futa if you aren't going to use both sets of giggity bits? I much prefer futa on female obviously, just playing devils advocate.
In a futa on female situation, the point is specifically the transformation of the available sex acts caused by the penis.
It's strapons that play for keeps. It is lesbian sex but enhanced by the potency of truth. And as with all sex where a soft dom and sub position exist, it reinforces that physically by providing the proper instrument.

Further, your framing of this argument could be applied in all male on female situations where you would then have to ask absurdly "Why is the woman not at all moments fingering the man's anus? Or at least putting a dildo/plug in there when such things are impossible based on position?"

In a futa on male situation, the present but unused vagina on the futa gains meaning by being denied to the man. The expectation of the typical sex act is subverted despite being possible. He is both getting fucked in the ass not just in addition to, but specifically because he is, not using his penis on a vagina.

The reason this does not work in reverse in either situation is because the futa either has 'soft-feminine' expectations in the sex act or none at all.
So the futa taking cock either reads as "A woman taking cock, but oh wait, she has a penis flopping about for no reason."
Or "A shoobob bagooby getting its fimp shlanked, instead of its carno rifted."

The only way to enjoy a futa getting penetrated seems to be for fans of visual bouquets, where attractive parts could be arranged randomly and entice them. Gangbang, orgy, tentacle enthusiasts and the like.
Which, despite their popularity, I openly hate and deride.

I have no interest in watching a wiggling pile of parts churn around. I want to see people fuck each other in a particular way, based on the concrete shape of their sexual desires and how they mesh together. And if someone is going to whip up imaginary sexual scenarios, they ought to either beautifully instantiate or fantastically subvert, actual sexual appetites. Not produce something wholly alien and meaningless, or only subversive in a meta sense so removed from the world it appeals only to peoples whose fetishes have started to eat themselves.
 

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Liking the game far as I tried it but yeah lost my progress because after the spider queen fight I was so low on mp so when I got another slime fight before getting out Alicia got knocked out and no matter where I looked I couldn't find a way to revive her since neither the healing wells or sleeping helped nor could I find any item in the shop. So I tried to see if going solo would help but that just got me a game over and since I hadn't saved yet in the game I had to start over.

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The no revival thing was a fuckup. I never died during my playtests, so I never reminded myself to add it. The game balance is a thing that's being reworked in 0.05. For now, I'd suggest just running from the slimes. Here's a patch that adds a revival potion to the shop.
I cannot believe I overlooked a way to revive KO'd companions for this long. That's a massive fuck up on my part, sorry about that. Extract this to the game folder, and you can buy a revive option at the item shop in Orchid.
 
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In a futa on female situation, the point is specifically the transformation of the available sex acts caused by the penis.
It's strapons that play for keeps. It is lesbian sex but enhanced by the potency of truth. And as with all sex where a soft dom and sub position exist, it reinforces that physically by providing the proper instrument.

Further, your framing of this argument could be applied in all male on female situations where you would then have to ask absurdly "Why is the woman not at all moments fingering the man's anus? Or at least putting a dildo/plug in there when such things are impossible based on position?"

In a futa on male situation, the present but unused vagina on the futa gains meaning by being denied to the man. The expectation of the typical sex act is subverted despite being possible. He is both getting fucked in the ass not just in addition to, but specifically because he is, not using his penis on a vagina.

The reason this does not work in reverse in either situation is because the futa either has 'soft-feminine' expectations in the sex act or none at all.
So the futa taking cock either reads as "A woman taking cock, but oh wait, she has a penis flopping about for no reason."
Or "A shoobob bagooby getting its fimp shlanked, instead of its carno rifted."

The only way to enjoy a futa getting penetrated seems to be for fans of visual bouquets, where attractive parts could be arranged randomly and entice them. Gangbang, orgy, tentacle enthusiasts and the like.
Which, despite their popularity, I openly hate and deride.

I have no interest in watching a wiggling pile of parts churn around. I want to see people fuck each other in a particular way, based on the concrete shape of their sexual desires and how they mesh together. And if someone is going to whip up imaginary sexual scenarios, they ought to either beautifully instantiate or fantastically subvert, actual sexual appetites. Not produce something wholly alien and meaningless, or only subversive in a meta sense so removed from the world it appeals only to peoples whose fetishes have started to eat themselves.
Most of this is just your opinion, but I'll bite. So here's the thing, put yourself in the futa's shoes for a bit. Using your dick feels good right? So does using your vagina. So what if the futa likes doing both? You're thinking people have set roles in sex, and can't deviate from them in any way. For traditional Male/Female might work, but for a futa? Using both would probably be considered the norm. Why wouldn't you? They're both designed for sex. Honestly, anal makes less sense than a futa using her vag.
 

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Most of this is just your opinion, but I'll bite. So here's the thing, put yourself in the futa's shoes for a bit. Using your dick feels good right? So does using your vagina. So what if the futa likes doing both? You're thinking people have set roles in sex, and can't deviate from them in any way. For traditional Male/Female might work, but for a futa? Using both would probably be considered the norm. Why wouldn't you? They're both designed for sex. Honestly, anal makes less sense than a futa using her vag.
I'd have to say wouldn't a futa in theory at least feel among the greatest pleasure from anal compared to a normal man or woman. Since when looking at it what makes a man or a woman feel pleasure from anal is mostly the amount of nerves at the entrance but also for a man it's the prostate while for a woman it's the direct or indirect pushing against the vaginal walls that brings them pleasure. A futa at least in theory (since futa biology switches so much depending on who is creating the futa) have both the pleasure given from the opening of the anus, the pushing of the vaginal walls but also the prostate since the prostate is what creates the fluid in which sperm lives and is transported. So a futa at least if you look at it logically should feel around twice the amount of pleasure from anal compared to anyone else. Honestly if you look at it biologically anal should be the most pleasureable for a futa at least in theory.

However most work doesn't really take this into account or even factor in stuff like this and instead most futa's are just breed/mating is everything and they don't even seemingly care for the pleasure itself and instead the dominating or impregnation part is usually shown as the dominant trait in futas.

But yeah that's just my thought on the whole subject :D
 
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I'd have to say wouldn't a futa in theory at least feel among the greatest pleasure from anal compared to a normal man or woman. Since when looking at it what makes a man or a woman feel pleasure from anal is mostly the amount of nerves at the entrance but also for a man it's the prostate while for a woman it's the direct or indirect pushing against the vaginal walls that brings them pleasure. A futa at least in theory (since futa biology switches so much depending on who is creating the futa) have both the pleasure given from the opening of the anus, the pushing of the vaginal walls but also the prostate since the prostate is what creates the fluid in which sperm lives and is transported. So a futa at least if you look at it logically should feel around twice the amount of pleasure from anal compared to anyone else. Honestly if you look at it biologically anal should be the most pleasureable for a futa at least in theory.

However most work doesn't really take this into account or even factor in stuff like this and instead most futa's are just breed/mating is everything and they don't even seemingly care for the pleasure itself and instead the dominating or impregnation part is usually shown as the dominant trait in futas.

But yeah that's just my thought on the whole subject :D
Your theory makes sense. I was more just talking about how an anus isn't designed for sex but people use it for that purpose, yet the idea that a futa using her vag (which is designed for sex) is somehow wrong. Seems weird to me.
 
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Your theory makes sense. I was more just talking about how an anus isn't designed for sex but people are use it for that purpose, yet the idea that a futa using her vag (which is designed for sex) is somehow wrong.
I've seen so many discussions on this site where people didn't know the difference between trans women and futas or hermaphrodites that I'd probably assume that take was based in pure stupidity
 

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Your theory makes sense. I was more just talking about how an anus isn't designed for sex but people use it for that purpose, yet the idea that a futa using her vag (which is designed for sex) is somehow wrong. Seems weird to me.
That is very true, I think for some reason at the moment futas are usually seen as very dominant and somehow vaginal sex is seen as something submissive there is also the previously mentioned breeding part and having the futa become pregnant instead of making someone else pregnant is again probably seen as something submissive.

Which is probably why 95%ish of the futa stuff is futa x male or futa x female but not much is male/female x futa while there is some futa x futa. Which is probably also a reason why in cheating/ntr stuff the futa is always the part doing that towards others but I don't remember ever reading or seeing that happen to a futa unless it's another futa doing it against a futa. The only time I've ever seen anything close to it is in Twisted World where all the men are somehow femboys/traps and super passive while all the women + futa's are all super horny and crazy for men so when the MC with a normal guys mindset but with the body of an incubus get's there he bangs everyone so the futas are sort of cheated on or NTR'd but at the same time they all willingly join his harem so not sure about it...

Still I agree that it's weird that there is so much content of futas doing penetration and people are seemingly so against the norm of it.

I also agree on seperate tags since it honestly doesn't make sense to me that people equals futanari to trans since futa-nari litterly means dual-form meaning they have both female and male sex organs so anyone claiming that a person with only a male sex organ + breasts = futa is just making stuff up. I don't have anything against people wanting the word S-male used in porn or L-boy removed and instead using the general term of trans for everyone. But a trans is not a hermaphrodite which a futanari is so having futa = trans is just messed up. Just to clarify as much as possible futanari is the japanese word for androgyny or hermaphroditism and has been used since around the mid of 1600 at least...
 
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Honestly we should have separate futa and trans tags. They're entirely different genres.
I know the new tag system that's being worked on does separate them, but having seen how the mods are planning to define futa in the new tags, it should probably be separated into trans, futa, and hermaphrodite. There are pages of arguments of the mods staunchly defending the position that futas aren't hermaphrodites, so they should probably get their own tag too
 
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In a futa on female situation, the point is specifically the transformation of the available sex acts caused by the penis.
It's strapons that play for keeps. It is lesbian sex but enhanced by the potency of truth. And as with all sex where a soft dom and sub position exist, it reinforces that physically by providing the proper instrument.

Further, your framing of this argument could be applied in all male on female situations where you would then have to ask absurdly "Why is the woman not at all moments fingering the man's anus? Or at least putting a dildo/plug in there when such things are impossible based on position?"

In a futa on male situation, the present but unused vagina on the futa gains meaning by being denied to the man. The expectation of the typical sex act is subverted despite being possible. He is both getting fucked in the ass not just in addition to, but specifically because he is, not using his penis on a vagina.

The reason this does not work in reverse in either situation is because the futa either has 'soft-feminine' expectations in the sex act or none at all.
So the futa taking cock either reads as "A woman taking cock, but oh wait, she has a penis flopping about for no reason."
Or "A shoobob bagooby getting its fimp shlanked, instead of its carno rifted."
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It is lesbian sex but enhanced by the potency of truth.
I am severely concerned but still apprehensively curious. What the fuck does this mean? Do I even want to know?
Cybersmith, is that you?
 

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I don't know if it was mentioned, but The game is interrupted if you complete the "Date" side quest. A loading screen will appear, from which you cannot exit without rebooting.
 
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