VN Ren'Py Heart Problems [v0.9] [Xenorav]

pedrohefe · Mar 17, 2023

The wallpapers and new report are finally out

Boobaassloving · Mar 17, 2023

The new report is out can some hero share it

BushedBear · Mar 17, 2023

Drkgy said:
And if you know it why u do It

is...is this a serious question? I was being sarcastic mate clearly I played the game and liked it enough so I wanted to give my thoughts and this is a place for discussion. No one is forcing you to read it if it's too much for you, but it's weird to act like someone taking the time and effort to give a thought out post is a bad thing even if you don't agree with what I have to say. It's even less worthwhile to tell me you didn't read it or to ask me what you're asking... but I know I know likely too many words for you again sorry.

Paradiced · Mar 17, 2023

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Code ≈ 95%?
Renders ≈ 50%?? [350 images] + [20 animations]

I love and hate making animations...

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Código ≈ 95%?
Renderizados ≈ 60%?? [350 imagenes] + [20 animaciones]

Amo y odio hacer animaciones...

Paradiced · Mar 17, 2023

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Centenox · Mar 17, 2023

Milf Hunter13 said:
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Code ≈ 95%?

Renders ≈ 50%?? [350 images] + [20 animations]

I love and hate making animations...

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Código ≈ 95%?

Renderizados ≈ 60%?? [350 imagenes] + [20 animaciones]

Amo y odio hacer animaciones...

Is me or you add +10 on Renders translation to Spanish?

wlazinna · Mar 17, 2023

BushedBear said:
I imagine my opinions will not be popular here since this novel seems well liked. I'll preface what I have to say by acknowledging this is a porn novel. It doesn't have to adhere to reality and people tend to be able to suspend disbelief a lot easier when bloods flowing away from their brain to another more prioritized area if you catch me. Nothing wrong with that, but I tend to be really reliant on the story not being too porn logic to enjoy the experience, in my opinion a game should either lean into fantasy completely or if you plan to make a story with heart and love you need to be considerate of the logic you use. So in this cause I ended up having quite a bit a conflicting feelings that I'll lay out.

Choices do not matter, they basically just control if you get some scenes or not but even if you would like to be with just the mom or just one of the cousins the only family you really have any say in is the little one... which thank god because she's written like a 12 year old in terms of how she thinks and acts.

The MC is so bad. Look it's clear he's written and directed in scenes to be a self-insert to a pretty large degree. However it's impossible to like him for me. He's manipulative and written way too horny all the time that when he tries to say something nice it's impossible to believe him as he's trying to win over the girls while also thinking with his dick. He has nothing to him besides being well built physically, doesn't appear to have any real hobbies or ambitions, and his morals are pretty damn messy (and I'm not talking about the incest). I don't take kindly to him driving drunk, we literally have seen the novel mention cab services why is it that they didn't use one that night. I was surprised when he told the aunt about it and she didn't either catch it or care even if she was drunk too at the time. It may not seem like a big deal but it's just a shame to see, could have easily been a nice moment for the MC to score some points with Amelie by having them leave the car and take a cab responsibly. If the MC doesn't show maturity it makes his pursuit of an older women less believable. It's laughable what a good guy he thinks he is and how is inner monologue play into guilt and compassion while his actions completely disregard them. It's super hard to play as him and root for him to win (since I would like to win out) when in the end he doesn't deserve anyone in the family and is as shit a person as his uncle. I think he needs to find a job, or develop a path forward to make him more real. He talked about wanting to build his own house, maybe make him go to school or architecture or become a carpenter. I'm not saying pull him away from his life with the girls but give him more of a life than he has now and show hints to a future that would make him worthwhile in some way to these girls besides having good abs and a big dick. Cause right now I just don't like him.

Stephanie - This is the messiest character. I'm going to assume her innocence and naive attitude are meant to play into some kind of kink/age play/loli aspect that appeals to some. Personally I just found her annoying and confusing in how she's written and what she looks like. What age is she exactly? The MC is 21, I think Kylee is that ago too, I would assume she's supposed to represent someone underage yet maybe per patreon rules or whatever she's "18". That said if the creator did mean for her to be 18, no 18 year old acts like her, well not one that's not on the spectrum or something. Her attitude is abrasive and immature, sometimes it appears like she understands things sexually and other times it comes off like she never had a sex ed lesson. Her childish games, spying, tantrums, Et cetera just don't play together well in this setting for me. I was thankful you can pretty much avoid her because I just don't see any path forward with the way she is. I'm not against innocent younger women in games either, if she was just shy and new to dealing with guys that could be something that I would be fine with, if it didn't feel like you were a scumbag to play into her "blackmail" and it didn't feel like you were a predator even for thinking about it I would feel differently here. The way she's written though makes her incredibly unattractive and I have no clue what could be planned for her to make her worthwhile or an end game option. On top of everything she doesn't really have much character to her, just a bunch of quirky traits and messy scenes. To each their own though, maybe this is appealing to some.

Kylee - Kylee is young so out of the three her being focused on sexual pleasure over substance is fine, it's bland but fine. She actually fits best with MC as both of them lack a lot character or focus. No dreams or aspirations stated, just living in the moment and wanting to have fun. Which is fine, and her character model is very attractive too. I do wish we actually got to know her though, that not every moment was sexual in nature or the MC falling asleep next to her. The bowling scene is the most real bonding we got and that was pretty minimal.

Amelie - She's the best of the bunch in terms of writing (and personally my favorite both model and story). She works very well even if she comes off basic. However why it works is because a lot of stay at home moms tend to be pretty average in terms of what they have to offer. They're caregivers who put others first. The story gives way to this really well, especially when she opens up to the MC in scenes like the playground. She's passionate, loving, mature, responsible, reliable, basically she's the total package and out of the uncle and MC league by leaps and bounds.

Personally I think this novel would have benefited from more routes and less of a kinetic pathway. I honestly can't imagine how things can possibly work out positively for our MC without a lot of asspulls and relying on the fantasy aspect more. If you could actually pursue Kylee and only have a supportive relationship with Amelie... if you could actually only pursue Amelie and stop your relationship cold after the uncle catches you with Kylee just having those two options would make for a more satisfying expeience to me. This doesn't feel like a harem game, maybe the point here is that things are going to get worse before they get better. Maybe in future chapters the uncle blows your secret when he catches you with his wife and tells her that you also are fooling around with Kylee. Forcing you to grow as a person and giving you a real choice between the two when the dust settles. Maybe instread of overly dramatized it will just play into the easy route of keeping all his side relationships secret somehow... though I don't know how you write that to be satisfying, secret relationships are only fun for so long and always have an expiration date. Only time will tell, maybe I will be pleasantly surprised and and rooting for this do finish up strongly one day. At the moment though I definitely think it needs a lot of work to save it from just being a messy kinetic novel with good sex scenes.

Your post seems more a review. Reviews have his section.

kadgilek · Mar 17, 2023

oh no stephanie . here we go again , i honestly prefere amelie's route

kadgilek · Mar 17, 2023

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thanks for sharing . the wallpapers are nice but amelie's tits look smaller !!

rvanand · Mar 17, 2023

When will the new chapter come out?

zoku · Mar 17, 2023

BushedBear said:
I imagine my opinions will not be popular here since this novel seems well liked. I'll preface what I have to say by acknowledging this is a porn novel. It doesn't have to adhere to reality and people tend to be able to suspend disbelief a lot easier when bloods flowing away from their brain to another more prioritized area if you catch me. Nothing wrong with that, but I tend to be really reliant on the story not being too porn logic to enjoy the experience, in my opinion a game should either lean into fantasy completely or if you plan to make a story with heart and love you need to be considerate of the logic you use. So in this cause I ended up having quite a bit a conflicting feelings that I'll lay out.

Choices do not matter, they basically just control if you get some scenes or not but even if you would like to be with just the mom or just one of the cousins the only family you really have any say in is the little one... which thank god because she's written like a 12 year old in terms of how she thinks and acts.

The MC is so bad. Look it's clear he's written and directed in scenes to be a self-insert to a pretty large degree. However it's impossible to like him for me. He's manipulative and written way too horny all the time that when he tries to say something nice it's impossible to believe him as he's trying to win over the girls while also thinking with his dick. He has nothing to him besides being well built physically, doesn't appear to have any real hobbies or ambitions, and his morals are pretty damn messy (and I'm not talking about the incest). I don't take kindly to him driving drunk, we literally have seen the novel mention cab services why is it that they didn't use one that night. I was surprised when he told the aunt about it and she didn't either catch it or care even if she was drunk too at the time. It may not seem like a big deal but it's just a shame to see, could have easily been a nice moment for the MC to score some points with Amelie by having them leave the car and take a cab responsibly. If the MC doesn't show maturity it makes his pursuit of an older women less believable. It's laughable what a good guy he thinks he is and how is inner monologue play into guilt and compassion while his actions completely disregard them. It's super hard to play as him and root for him to win (since I would like to win out) when in the end he doesn't deserve anyone in the family and is as shit a person as his uncle. I think he needs to find a job, or develop a path forward to make him more real. He talked about wanting to build his own house, maybe make him go to school or architecture or become a carpenter. I'm not saying pull him away from his life with the girls but give him more of a life than he has now and show hints to a future that would make him worthwhile in some way to these girls besides having good abs and a big dick. Cause right now I just don't like him.

Stephanie - This is the messiest character. I'm going to assume her innocence and naive attitude are meant to play into some kind of kink/age play/loli aspect that appeals to some. Personally I just found her annoying and confusing in how she's written and what she looks like. What age is she exactly? The MC is 21, I think Kylee is that ago too, I would assume she's supposed to represent someone underage yet maybe per patreon rules or whatever she's "18". That said if the creator did mean for her to be 18, no 18 year old acts like her, well not one that's not on the spectrum or something. Her attitude is abrasive and immature, sometimes it appears like she understands things sexually and other times it comes off like she never had a sex ed lesson. Her childish games, spying, tantrums, Et cetera just don't play together well in this setting for me. I was thankful you can pretty much avoid her because I just don't see any path forward with the way she is. I'm not against innocent younger women in games either, if she was just shy and new to dealing with guys that could be something that I would be fine with, if it didn't feel like you were a scumbag to play into her "blackmail" and it didn't feel like you were a predator even for thinking about it I would feel differently here. The way she's written though makes her incredibly unattractive and I have no clue what could be planned for her to make her worthwhile or an end game option. On top of everything she doesn't really have much character to her, just a bunch of quirky traits and messy scenes. To each their own though, maybe this is appealing to some.

Kylee - Kylee is young so out of the three her being focused on sexual pleasure over substance is fine, it's bland but fine. She actually fits best with MC as both of them lack a lot character or focus. No dreams or aspirations stated, just living in the moment and wanting to have fun. Which is fine, and her character model is very attractive too. I do wish we actually got to know her though, that not every moment was sexual in nature or the MC falling asleep next to her. The bowling scene is the most real bonding we got and that was pretty minimal.

Amelie - She's the best of the bunch in terms of writing (and personally my favorite both model and story). She works very well even if she comes off basic. However why it works is because a lot of stay at home moms tend to be pretty average in terms of what they have to offer. They're caregivers who put others first. The story gives way to this really well, especially when she opens up to the MC in scenes like the playground. She's passionate, loving, mature, responsible, reliable, basically she's the total package and out of the uncle and MC league by leaps and bounds.

Personally I think this novel would have benefited from more routes and less of a kinetic pathway. I honestly can't imagine how things can possibly work out positively for our MC without a lot of asspulls and relying on the fantasy aspect more. If you could actually pursue Kylee and only have a supportive relationship with Amelie... if you could actually only pursue Amelie and stop your relationship cold after the uncle catches you with Kylee just having those two options would make for a more satisfying expeience to me. This doesn't feel like a harem game, maybe the point here is that things are going to get worse before they get better. Maybe in future chapters the uncle blows your secret when he catches you with his wife and tells her that you also are fooling around with Kylee. Forcing you to grow as a person and giving you a real choice between the two when the dust settles. Maybe instread of overly dramatized it will just play into the easy route of keeping all his side relationships secret somehow... though I don't know how you write that to be satisfying, secret relationships are only fun for so long and always have an expiration date. Only time will tell, maybe I will be pleasantly surprised and and rooting for this do finish up strongly one day. At the moment though I definitely think it needs a lot of work to save it from just being a messy kinetic novel with good sex scenes.

I agree that choices are missing, especially on adding some impact on the game.
more games tend to start with choices and end up being linear, simply because it's very time consuming to create different paths, requires lot of both work and time and creativity. But some champions do it with success, (rarely).
It also becomes more confusing to debug for a starter dev. But yes it adds a lot of richness. And who doesn't love a game with choices that impact the story?

Amelie, The Dev here unlike any other scored a big with giving a good aspect to the personality of Amelie. she's perfect. and he did perfect on that regard.

Many people hate Stephanie, But I like her, I just wish we could have different ways to deal with her, because we are forced to be blackmailed, and I think is why people hate her, but that's what give her the aspect of not being mature yet. Younger siblings are usually Jealous of the closest elder of the same sex, which is somehow realistic the way she behaves.

What bothers me the most is how the uncle was against alcohol in the beginning and then turned to become drunk 24/7.
It just makes no sens. I think the Dev wanted to delay the actions with Amelie when he decided to make him come back but he had no idea how, and he Just rushed on that decision, which just makes no sense.
He could be Just there, but doesn't care about her, he watch TV and phone instead of spending time with her, he's not romantic and she is romantic. And then he disappears from time to another for business excuses and then the hidden phone conversations, would have been perfect in a way that doesn't contradict the beginning.

Like I said before, there is lot of possibilities and potential to the game, I will love to see quickies with Amelie in the kitchen while the other family members are home, and paths like pregnancies that can force you to make choices of official relationships and tons of pregnant scenes besides.

I think Amelie will look hot with bigger breasts full of milk.
And it will be an amazing initiative to witness her body transform slowly through updates and pregnancy.

Bombmaster · Mar 17, 2023

zoku said:
I agree that choices are missing, especially on adding some impact on the game.
more games tend to start with choices and end up being linear, simply because it's very time consuming to create different paths, requires lot of both work and time and creativity. But some champions do it with success, (rarely).
It also becomes more confusing to debug for a starter dev. But yes it adds a lot of richness. And who doesn't love a game with choices that impact the story?

Amelie, The Dev here unlike any other scored a big with giving a good aspect to the personality of Amelie. she's perfect. and he did perfect on that regard.

Many people hate Stephanie, But I like her, I just wish we could have different ways to deal with her, because we are forced to be blackmailed, and I think is why people hate her, but that's what give her the aspect of not being mature yet. Younger siblings are usually Jealous of the closest elder of the same sex, which is somehow realistic the way she behaves.

What bothers me the most is how the uncle was against alcohol in the beginning and then turned to become drunk 24/7.
It just makes no sens. I think the Dev wanted to delay the actions with Amelie when he decided to make him come back but he had no idea how, and he Just rushed on that decision, which just makes no sense.
He could be Just there, but doesn't care about her, he watch TV and phone instead of spending time with her, he's not romantic and she is romantic. And then he disappears from time to another for business excuses and then the hidden phone conversations, would have been perfect in a way that doesn't contradict the beginning.

Like I said before, there is lot of possibilities and potential to the game, I will love to see quickies with Amelie in the kitchen while the other family members are home, and paths like pregnancies that can force you to make choices of official relationships and tons of pregnant scenes besides.

I think Amelie will look hot with bigger breasts full of milk.
And it will be an amazing initiative to witness her body transform slowly through updates and pregnancy.

God let me turn down both brats and make them another sibling.

elpibedeoro1 · Mar 17, 2023

kadgilek said:
oh no stephanie . here we go again , i honestly prefere amelie's route

It's almost the same image than 2 previous updates, I'm seriously starting to believe that Xen is not making progress at all

BushedBear · Mar 17, 2023

wlazinna said:
Your post seems more a review. Reviews have his section.

I wouldn't review something that's not complete, and I would actually make a review smaller and with less personal opinions. This was a breakdown of the characters and what I liked and didn't like. It's just a lot because the game has 7 chapters and I just now played it. Again, it's okay if it's too much for you but y'all are silly acting like that's too much to read in a discussion thread for the game. Would you rather less variety and just have people asking for updates and leaks? seems pretty dull and not worth reading through either...

zoku said:
I agree that choices are missing, especially on adding some impact on the game.
more games tend to start with choices and end up being linear, simply because it's very time consuming to create different paths, requires lot of both work and time and creativity. But some champions do it with success, (rarely).
It also becomes more confusing to debug for a starter dev. But yes it adds a lot of richness. And who doesn't love a game with choices that impact the story?

Amelie, The Dev here unlike any other scored a big with giving a good aspect to the personality of Amelie. she's perfect. and he did perfect on that regard.

Many people hate Stephanie, But I like her, I just wish we could have different ways to deal with her, because we are forced to be blackmailed, and I think is why people hate her, but that's what give her the aspect of not being mature yet. Younger siblings are usually Jealous of the closest elder of the same sex, which is somehow realistic the way she behaves.

What bothers me the most is how the uncle was against alcohol in the beginning and then turned to become drunk 24/7.
It just makes no sens. I think the Dev wanted to delay the actions with Amelie when he decided to make him come back but he had no idea how, and he Just rushed on that decision, which just makes no sense.
He could be Just there, but doesn't care about her, he watch TV and phone instead of spending time with her, he's not romantic and she is romantic. And then he disappears from time to another for business excuses and then the hidden phone conversations, would have been perfect in a way that doesn't contradict the beginning.

Like I said before, there is lot of possibilities and potential to the game, I will love to see quickies with Amelie in the kitchen while the other family members are home, and paths like pregnancies that can force you to make choices of official relationships and tons of pregnant scenes besides.

I think Amelie will look hot with bigger breasts full of milk.
And it will be an amazing initiative to witness her body transform slowly through updates and pregnancy.

Oh for sure, I definitely get why it would be a lot more work and just isn't possible for every small production to contain routes. My only point really here is having the ability to break up this novel into even two routes would lead to a more balanced game at least for what we have so far. If you had the ability to be supportive and friendly with either Kylee or Amelie while pursuing one of them it would give the MC a little more heart and make him come off less like a manipulative horndog who is ignoring the girls feelings for his own wants.

Agree completely about Amelie, I had no criticisms for her myself she's great the way she is.

Stephanie we'll have to disagree on her to a degree but I agree the blackmail plot really is the worst of it.

The uncles drunk bullshit... that's interesting, you're right I didn't look at it that way but I have to agree it does feel a like a bit too much when you put it that way. Just a way to push the scale further.

On your final thoughts for the future, I may be harsh on the novel but I do think a lot of my complaints can be saved depending on how the story goes so I'm quite hopeful myself. Also not against your pregnancy idea, but I do think our MC needs to prove himself more to be worth that type of greatness. Anyway thanks for the thought out reply.

Paradiced · Mar 17, 2023

Centenox said:
Is me or you add +10 on Renders translation to Spanish?

Oh that was a mistake by xenorav it’s suppose to be 60% on the English too.

dannyb366 · Mar 17, 2023

Has anyone PLEASE got a save file from the start of chapter 6

MikeOG · Mar 18, 2023

This error keeps popping up in the amelie titfuck
```
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/gallerylabels.rpy", line 20181, in script
mc "*Aghh!!*." with cumming
File "game/gallerylabels.rpy", line 20181, in <module>
mc "*Aghh!!*." with cumming
NameError: name 'cumming' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "game/gallerylabels.rpy", line 20181, in script
mc "*Aghh!!*." with cumming
File "D:\AVN\0 Heart Problems\Heartproblems-Chapter7-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 920, in execute
say_menu_with(self.with_, renpy.game.interface.set_transition)
File "D:\AVN\0 Heart Problems\Heartproblems-Chapter7-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 739, in say_menu_with
what = renpy.python.py_eval(expression)
File "D:\AVN\0 Heart Problems\Heartproblems-Chapter7-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1083, in py_eval
return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
File "D:\AVN\0 Heart Problems\Heartproblems-Chapter7-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1076, in py_eval_bytecode
return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "game/gallerylabels.rpy", line 20181, in <module>
mc "*Aghh!!*." with cumming
NameError: name 'cumming' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.19041 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.0.2.22081402
HeartProblems Chapter7
Fri Mar 17 18:56:23 2023
```

zoku · Mar 18, 2023

BushedBear said:
I wouldn't review something that's not complete, and I would actually make a review smaller and with less personal opinions. This was a breakdown of the characters and what I liked and didn't like. It's just a lot because the game has 7 chapters and I just now played it. Again, it's okay if it's too much for you but y'all are silly acting like that's too much to read in a discussion thread for the game. Would you rather less variety and just have people asking for updates and leaks? seems pretty dull and not worth reading through either...

Oh for sure, I definitely get why it would be a lot more work and just isn't possible for every small production to contain routes. My only point really here is having the ability to break up this novel into even two routes would lead to a more balanced game at least for what we have so far. If you had the ability to be supportive and friendly with either Kylee or Amelie while pursuing one of them it would give the MC a little more heart and make him come off less like a manipulative horndog who is ignoring the girls feelings for his own wants.

Agree completely about Amelie, I had no criticisms for her myself she's great the way she is.

Stephanie we'll have to disagree on her to a degree but I agree the blackmail plot really is the worst of it.

The uncles drunk bullshit... that's interesting, you're right I didn't look at it that way but I have to agree it does feel a like a bit too much when you put it that way. Just a way to push the scale further.

On your final thoughts for the future, I may be harsh on the novel but I do think a lot of my complaints can be saved depending on how the story goes so I'm quite hopeful myself. Also not against your pregnancy idea, but I do think our MC needs to prove himself more to be worth that type of greatness. Anyway thanks for the thought out reply.

I think the very first updates of the game were an open game where you click to move and find/unlock/repeat and grind events.
I'm glad it changed soon to become a storyline with choices, but then It had some sort of required points earned after choices that impact the unlock of scenes according to previous actions throughout the story. It wasn't bad, we still had choices AND different outcomes.
The points were like a classic lust points vs love points I don't remember well (they were hidden but could be seen with a specific mod). But you could trigger different pictures at some point.

I don't know if it still exists in recent updates, but I have to repeat the game some day and see.

But then choices started to fade away slowly or at least have no major impact.

But As you said I too have high hopes for this game, it's at least the most realistic in terms of scenario compared to others, and it have some character into it.

What turns me off in other games, and I don't mean to be rude, sometimes -if not most of the times- they give me the impression that the authors aren't mature enough to think out of their pants and provide a living situation of realism to the gameplay.
You only feel like you are the only man who owns a dick or the last man on earth and all women want to fuck you for no reason.

Xenorav on the other hand, knows how women think and act and he is able to mirror that on his story, and an author needs maturity to have such thinking and provide similar results.

It's just hard to play a game written by a child even with high graphics and animations, you feel like they are made by guys who never touched a female. compared to a game made by Xenorav who seems to know about women and have matured thinking.

I think that's what made a huge difference between that game and others for me.

polopol2325 · Mar 18, 2023

Bombmaster said:
God let me turn down both brats and make them another sibling.
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kaidoo · Mar 18, 2023

zoku said:
I think the very first updates of the game were an open game where you click to move and find/unlock/repeat and grind events.
I'm glad it changed soon to become a storyline with choices, but then It had some sort of required points earned after choices that impact the unlock of scenes according to previous actions throughout the story. It wasn't bad, we still had choices AND different outcomes.
The points were like a classic lust points vs love points I don't remember well (they were hidden but could be seen with a specific mod). But you could trigger different pictures at some point.

I don't know if it still exists in recent updates, but I have to repeat the game some day and see.

But then choices started to fade away slowly or at least have no major impact.

But As you said I too have high hopes for this game, it's at least the most realistic in terms of scenario compared to others, and it have some character into it.

What turns me off in other games, and I don't mean to be rude, sometimes -if not most of the times- they give me the impression that the authors aren't mature enough to think out of their pants and provide a living situation of realism to the gameplay.
You only feel like you are the only man who owns a dick or the last man on earth and all women want to fuck you for no reason.

Xenorav on the other hand, knows how women think and act and he is able to mirror that on his story, and an author needs maturity to have such thinking and provide similar results.

It's just hard to play a game written by a child even with high graphics and animations, you feel like they are made by guys who never touched a female. compared to a game made by Xenorav who seems to know about women and have matured thinking.

I think that's what made a huge difference between that game and others for me.

Do you know a similar game. I have been tired and I did not get any game in this perfection

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