VN Ren'Py Heaven's Door [Ch. 2 v0.2] [AlterWorlds]

[Maccabbee]

A girl wants to get layed and you tell her to change her behavior..... now I understand why you play VNs....

You gotta train em right, or they never learn. I'm growing a harem here, not free range crazies! Gotta make this sustainable or shit will go sideways fast.

 

[Rehwyn]

Getting her sex scene and date made me question if I was doing the right thing by telling her to change her attitude in the main playthrough. She became my favorite.

I'm sure it's the "right" choice so she'll adapt and join the harem but I hope she doesn't lose something along the way...other than clothes.

This came up in Discord actually.

It's apparently a little more complex than just accepting Sylvanie's dance puts you exclusively on her 'solo' path. But apparently if you want a Sylvanie solo path, it's the way to start it.

 

[jadepaladin]

This came up in Discord actually.

It's apparently a little more complex than just accepting Sylvanie's dance puts you exclusively on her 'solo' path. But apparently if you want a Sylvanie solo path, it's the way to start it.

I wasn't sure if this was gonna go the way of BW and have harem vs solos not in the harem.
For now I have a full harem save and a focused Syl save. If it fractures more then I'll just keep adding more saves as needed.

 

[Rehwyn]

I wasn't sure if this was gonna go the way of BW and have harem vs solos not in the harem.
For now I have a full harem save and a focused Syl save. If it fractures more then I'll just keep adding more saves as needed.

From everything I've read, the game is optionally full harem where you can (with appropriate choices) pick and choose who is in the harem. So I suspect in terms of character and story development, their solo paths won't diverge too much, other than cases like we've seen so far where the solo path might have earlier or slightly more scenes.

Having largely diverged solo paths for 11 main LIs and completely separate ones for a harem playthrough likely would just be too much work, and one of their stated objectives for making the game optionally full harem was to reduce branching.

 

[Eleanorduval]

I wasn't sure if this was gonna go the way of BW and have harem vs solos not in the harem.
For now I have a full harem save and a focused Syl save. If it fractures more then I'll just keep adding more saves as needed.

I don t think there is harem in the game,special for you bad boy.

 

[jadepaladin]

From everything I've read, the game is optionally full harem where you can (with appropriate choices) pick and choose who is in the harem. So I suspect in terms of character and story development, their solo paths won't diverge too much, other than cases like we've seen so far where the solo path might have earlier or slightly more scenes.

Having largely diverged solo paths for 11 main LIs and completely separate ones for a harem playthrough likely would just be too much work, and one of their stated objectives for making the game optionally full harem was to reduce branching.

Sounds perfect. BW had Zenda and Val of course, but being with them skirted the harem and imo the harem dynamics were the best part of the VN, especially the reaction Mora had when it came out that MC was messing with Sadie on the side.

So if we're just picking and choosing harem here it's less complicated.

 

[Rehwyn]

I don t think there is harem in the game,special for you bad boy.

Sounds perfect. BW had Zenda and Val of course, but being with them skirted the harem and imo the harem dynamics were the best part of the VN, especially the reaction Mora had when it came out that MC was messing with Sadie on the side.

So if we're just picking and choosing harem here it's less complicated.

Found one of the quotes about this from Discord. Doesn't seem particularly ambiguous to me.

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Edit: Keep in mind this bit though:

This might make you feel better: Of the five bi/bi-curious love interests, only three are specifically written as bisexual, and only two of those are actively bisexual. The others may or may not engage in lesbian sex depending on player choices. The two that are actively bisexual will be fairly obvious early on.

At least, that's the plan for now. Shit might change later, depending on how the story progresses (and on how much I want to piss off the people who hate lesbian sex; I do enjoy pissing people off, so you're forewarned on that front).

So while we'll be able to have all the LIs in the harem, some of them are completely straight and might not have much (or any) sexual interaction with others in the harem.

 

[jadepaladin]

Found one of the quotes about this from Discord. Doesn't seem particularly ambiguous to me.

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[HornyyPussy]

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Fuck! Same here!

 

[StormAW]

Found one of the quotes about this from Discord. Doesn't seem particularly ambiguous to me.

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Edit: Keep in mind this bit though:

So while we'll be able to have all the LIs in the harem, some of them are completely straight and might not have much (or any) sexual interaction with others in the harem.

Also bear in mind that sexuality is complicated and that some girls might have different limits from others. So while there's currently a set number of fully bisexual love interests, others who don't identify as such might still be willing to fool around or experiment.

This will come down, at least in part, to player choices. But I love seeing women with women so there will be plenty of opportunities for it.

 

[Elhemeer]

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[immortalslayer90]

If Hannah does show up, it won't be NTR focused. It'll be an attempt at a redemption arc where she's sorry and kicked the other guy to the curb and wants the MC to take her back. I HOPE it doesn't happen, because we saw enough of Hannah to understand that she was only sorry she got caught and all it would do is create drama with the present girls and there's already enough.

Personally, I really want Hannah to return, although not for any chance at her getting back at MC. I love any chance to rub in just how bad a cheater fucked up. Let her come begging MC for another chance. Let him laugh at her with Nikki on one arm and Patricia on the other. Hell, let her see one of them wearing the ring that was going to be hers. What can I say, I absolutely love a bit of schadenfreude in these kinds of situations.

And hey, if they want to add a path where you can choose to take her back, I'm all for it. I just won't be doing it myself.

 

[Tremonia]

Let her come begging MC for another chance. Let him laugh at her with Nikki on one arm and Patricia on the other. Hell, let her see one of them wearing the ring that was going to be hers.

Whoever has hurt you, I hope you get over it.

 

[Pixillin']

Personally, I really want Hannah to return, although not for any chance at her getting back at MC. I love any chance to rub in just how bad a cheater fucked up. Let her come begging MC for another chance. Let him laugh at her with Nikki on one arm and Patricia on the other. Hell, let her see one of them wearing the ring that was going to be hers. What can I say, I absolutely love a bit of schadenfreude in these kinds of situations.

And hey, if they want to add a path where you can choose to take her back, I'm all for it. I just won't be doing it myself.

I’d rather she didn’t show up at all. There is no point and personally I just move on instead of wasting time with anger and revenge fantasies.

 

[immortalslayer90]

Whoever has hurt you, I hope you get over it.

Lol. I've never been cheated on. I just hate cheating and like seeing their regret. Loyalty is a big deal for me. I'm actually doing fantastic in my life right now, in a relationship with the best girl I've ever known. Took me too damn long to find her, but hey, sometimes, you have to wait for quality.

Thanks for your concern though, I guess.

 

[Malicre]

This games premise and the no NTR tag never made sense to me and i can kinda tell the dev has never actually been around real strippers.

Strippers have sex with their customers all the time, 90% of them are doing the job for money not because they like doing it and before you go "it's against the rules" you're technically right as it is against the rules in the club but they do it anyways especially in the VIP private area's and/or after they go home.

I had a female friend who was a stripper for 12 years and you wouldn't believe half the stories she would tell me.

TLDR: The game breaks my suspension of disbelief as i know what strippers do and that somehow in this magical world they do none of it.

 

[Justaphase]

This games premise and the no NTR tag never made sense to me and i can kinda tell the dev has never actually been around real strippers.

Strippers have sex with their customers all the time, 90% of them are doing the job for money not because they like doing it and before you go "it's against the rules" you're technically right as it is against the rules in the club but they do it anyways especially in the VIP private area's and/or after they go home.

I had a female friend who was a stripper for 12 years and you wouldn't believe half the stories she would tell me.

TLDR: The game breaks my suspension of disbelief as i know what strippers do and that somehow in this magical world they do none of it.

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So strippers are always sluts or prostitutes to you then?
To me these girls are more exotic dancers than they are just strippers.

 

[billybob2010]

So strippers are always sluts or prostitutes to you then?
To me these girls are more exotic dancers than they are just strippers.

same for me

 

[Pixillin']

This games premise and the no NTR tag never made sense to me and i can kinda tell the dev has never actually been around real strippers.

Strippers have sex with their customers all the time, 90% of them are doing the job for money not because they like doing it and before you go "it's against the rules" you're technically right as it is against the rules in the club but they do it anyways especially in the VIP private area's and/or after they go home.

I had a female friend who was a stripper for 12 years and you wouldn't believe half the stories she would tell me.

TLDR: The game breaks my suspension of disbelief as i know what strippers do and that somehow in this magical world they do none of it.

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As I indicated before, I've known dancers, strippers and other SWs and it depends on a lot of things. Yes there are full service strippers but there is also animosity between the girls who do and the girls who don't and in this case it might be none of them - this isn't a big city, this is small town Louisiana. That means the women likely know their customers - went to school with them, and their wives. Know their parents. Being a full service girl in this setting carries quite a few risks. There is no anonymity. Everyone you know would know and it could have consequences.

 

[StormAW]

This games premise and the no NTR tag never made sense to me and i can kinda tell the dev has never actually been around real strippers.

You should look up Dunning-Kruger. You are a stellar example of it.