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Rehwyn

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But centering an AVN around a strip club where there isn't (legally, anyway) any nudity is definitely a choice.
Yup. is a tv show about another louisiana stripclub that has both a liquor license and naked dancers on stage, they just explain it away with a grandfathered license or some other excuse. I'm guessing this game's decision to keep the t&a covered on stage was mainly to make the topless private dances more enticing by teasing the player first with their nonnude dances (the graphics are way above average).

From the moment a character has a brain tumor I'll just use it as an excuse for any weird behavior.

I'm curious about the game's target audience. Personally I like stripclubs and dancers/strippers. I may even fetishize strippers. But a dating sim or harem game where you spend most of your time having proper neat dates with strippers outside of the club instead of trying to get in their pants in the club? I thought the dating sim crowd wasn't too keen on their LIs being whores/sexworkers.
I actually think the strip club setting is perfect for what Heaven’s Door is trying to do, and the “no full nudity on stage” constraint makes it even more appropriate.

This story isn’t centered on “how fast can the MC get in their pants,” it’s centered on grief, intimacy, boundaries, and how people let someone into their life when they’re used to being treated like a transaction. A club where dancers are still working, still flirtatious, still sexual, but not automatically “on display” at full intensity gives the writer room to build real relationship beats. It keeps the club from turning into a constant porn loop and lets the emotional dynamics breathe. The club also works because it’s a liminal space, not fully public and not fully private, where people are already halfway out of their everyday roles, which makes real conversations feel natural instead of contrived.

Also, the non-nude setup helps the world feel grounded. It creates a believable reason for why the MC can keep showing up on slow nights and actually talk to people without every scene being “private room or bust.” The erotic content can still exist, but it has to be earned through trust and choice, which fits the tone of the MC’s arc a lot better than a setting where everything is instantly maximized.

And on the “target audience / dating sim crowd” point, I think that’s the whole point of the framing. The game is pretty clearly filtering for readers who can handle sex work as a job and still see the characters as full people. If someone needs their LI to be sexually “untouched” by the world, a strip club story is obviously going to bounce off them.
 
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Honestly, the slow burn of a lap dance is more effective than the 'direct' stuff anyway. Thanks for the top-tier NTR, even if you won't admit it!
 

Rehwyn

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And on the “target audience / dating sim crowd” point, I think that’s the whole point of the framing. The game is pretty clearly filtering for readers who can handle sex work as a job and still see the characters as full people. If someone needs their LI to be sexually “untouched” by the world, a strip club story is obviously going to bounce off them.
Hey look: the filter I mentioned in action!
 

Rehwyn

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It's just ragebait.
I figured :) Just wanted to see him rationalize it ;)
Sometime it's fun to poke :)
It's also sometimes useful to very briefly rebuke comments like that. A potential new reader might come here, see a comment that the game is "NTR", and if no one contradicts the comment they may assume it's accurate and be discouraged from starting the AVN (or disappointed if they actually want NTR).

Doesn't need to turn into a back-and-forth argument or big rage post though. Just a post that functions as a "lol, no" works.
 

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It's also sometimes useful to very briefly rebuke comments like that. A potential new reader might come here, see a comment that the game is "NTR", and if no one contradicts the comment they may assume it's accurate and be discouraged from starting the AVN (or disappointed if they actually want NTR).

Doesn't need to turn into a back-and-forth argument or big rage post though. Just a post that functions as a "lol, no" works.
Yeah but you are the intelligent one and I'm the snarky one ;)
 
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So I'm curious, and I apologize if this has been mentioned many times before...Do any of my decisions matter? I'm trying to be friendly, just past the first act, but I've had a lap dance where I didn't really have a say, and now a date where I don't have a say. Just wondering when I'm able to transition some of the women to more of a friend instead of just banging anything and everything. There feel like a lot of LIs and I get the feeling it only increases as the game goes on.

Are there clear "no, I don't want to have sex with you" moments? (assuming there IS sex yet!)


ignore me, I think I see an out now without being an ass.
 

Rehwyn

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So I'm curious, and I apologize if this has been mentioned many times before...Do any of my decisions matter? I'm trying to be friendly, just past the first act, but I've had a lap dance where I didn't really have a say, and now a date where I don't have a say. Just wondering when I'm able to transition some of the women to more of a friend instead of just banging anything and everything. There feel like a lot of LIs and I get the feeling it only increases as the game goes on.

Are there clear "no, I don't want to have sex with you" moments? (assuming there IS sex yet!)


ignore me, I think I see an out now without being an ass.
It might not be immediate, but the AVN is full optional harem, so eventually you'll have choices that either set you on a romance path or a friend path with each of the main LIs. In neither case will they just disappear from the story though.
 
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