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If what Chloe said is true, yes Helaine knows that the mc is a vampire. That's probably the only conclusion we can draw here. Not sure about anything else, but we already knows that Helaine hides something anyway
I have a theory, which is probably very far fetched.
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Oh no, baddass vampire and magic girl kick the MCs ass...he's a wimp. We should ignore the fact that the MC, despite being a pure vampire, has not have any power development, is untrained and his powers are pretty much sealed (mentioned quite a few times). I guess media literacy being low is a fact.
Oh and if he was strong from the start, people would have whined that he's a Mary Sue and has plot armor or something. Always something to whine about if you just want to whine.
Yeah, the "criticism" is just more like whining smh. Aside from MC being a dormant vampire, Gretchen literally states that her dad is a cop —like people can't tell there might be a chance ... that she's stronger than she looks?:eek:
 

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I have a theory, which is probably very far fetched.
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I think at the very least Helanie not being the actual sister of MC is by design, otherwise the dev wouldn't be that confident to set up Patreon while letting one of the main girls being the actual sibling in his game. Even in the prologue, there are quite a few strong hints suggesting that she knows about MC's secret nature and they're not biologically related, and after the first conversation between MC and her in chapter 1, I already draw that conclusion about her not being the actual sibling.
 
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Oh no, baddass vampire and magic girl kick the MCs ass...he's a wimp. We should ignore the fact that the MC, despite being a pure vampire, has not have any power development, is untrained and his powers are pretty much sealed (mentioned quite a few times). I guess media literacy being low is a fact.
Oh and if he was strong from the start, people would have whined that he's a Mary Sue and has plot armor or something. Always something to whine about if you just want to whine.
Nah, it's not about that, I'm fine with the mc not being OP or going from weak to strong, but this whole thing really reminds me of something like a dm wanting to railroad players into following one intended storyline - the moment someone steps off the beaten path an npc with a baseball bat shows up and sets you straight. That's not "media literacy being low", this whole scene could be cut and nothing would be lost, but I guess the author has to make a point.

Yeah, the "criticism" is just more like whining smh. Aside from MC being a dormant vampire, Gretchen literally states that her dad is a cop —like people can't tell there might be a chance ... that she's stronger than she looks?:eek:
Someones dad being a police officer automatically makes them proficient in martial arts and having super strength? lol

I mean, I wanted this to be good, prologue was actually very fine, but the way it went is clearly not for me, but if you like it - more power to you.
 
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So the one that eat our heart in the prologue is dead? cause it looks like the vamp queen kill him if that so, then that means our main enemy is either gonna be the mafias or the hunters
 
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Nah, it's not about that, I'm fine with the mc not being OP or going from weak to strong, but this whole thing really reminds me of something like a dm wanting to railroad players into following one intended storyline - the moment someone steps off the beaten path an npc with a baseball bat shows up and sets you straight. That's not "media literacy being low", this whole scene could be cut and nothing would be lost, but I guess the author has to make a point.


Someones dad being a police officer automatically makes them proficient in martial arts and having super strength? lol

I mean, I wanted this to be good, prologue was actually very fine, but the way it went is clearly not for me, but if you like it - more power to you.
What do you mean by super strength lol? This is literally a display of proper self-defense skills toward a guy who doesn't know anything about fighting except brute force. My point is that we literally don't really know Gretchen aside from her being a bitch and something weird is going on with her, so her being a woman with competent fighting skills is not impossible.
 

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Notice two mistakes in the prologue walkthrough:
page 17: you can only choose "Quiet Bar" to acquire Ella like count, not the other one;
page 19: you will not receive Ella like count by choosing "Ella is cute" if you are on the Rebel side, in other words, you can only acquire that by both being in the Structured side and being sober/tipsy with Ella.
 

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dm wanting to railroad players into following one intended storyline - the moment someone steps off the beaten path an npc with a baseball bat shows up and sets you straight. That's not "media literacy being low", this whole scene could be cut and nothing would be lost, but I guess the author has to make a point.
Ok, I'm trying hard to give you the benefit of the doubt on the media literacy. I replayed the scene with the baseball bat ) since I didn't get in my playthrough) and it makes perfect sense to me. Sirius tried to prevent the MC from killing and draining those poor idiots, which would have put the MC fully on an irreversible mistake early on. Which was her way of repaying him for saving her. If Sirius doesn't stop him there and the scene is cut (as per your suggestion) it would have probably be a game ending choice, since he would go on a rampage (he can't control his power yet) and could have gotten him killed by a response force (whatever their name is, I forgot).So yeah... the DM should correct you if you go off rails or the game ends.

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I'd bet that a police officer having a daughter means that he'd train her in some form of self defense. And super strength...besides the fact that she's definitely not normal, she wouldn't need that much strength to subdue the MC, who is basically on the same power scale as a human at this point in the story. Also bear in mind that the MC is in no way trying to fight her in that scene, so him getting pinned down is pretty legit.
 
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I have a theory, which is probably very far fetched.
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Yeah you're probably right about the sister thing with Patreon.

I think there is probably a missing part of the convo before Helaine comes on the rooftop too.

I kinda dig your theory about Helaine's best friend being MC's sister and I'll exploit it a bit. I think that Helaine brings the MC to Heliorise to absolve her sins about what she has done to MC's sister.

Like, she wanted to be a top dog in up-rise, discovered the vampires, her best friend told her that she was one, Helaine betrays her and gives her to the vampires in exchange of power, fame, or whatever. Of course, it was bullshit, run away somehow, and now she tries to live a "normal" life, while giving a home to the brother of her best friend.
 
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I have a theory, which is probably very far fetched.
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And at the same time, I'm not sure the dev would involve something that big with a LI.

I mean, to be responsible for the torture (probably murder) of the MC's sister, and being involved together after that... Even if I can love big ass dramas before the relationship happens, like with Sirius, this one seems impossible to overcome for Helaine.
 
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And at the same time, I'm not sure the dev would involve something that big with a LI.

I mean, to be responsible for the torture (probably murder) of the MC's sister, and being involved together after that... Even if I can love big ass dramas before the relationship happens, like with Sirius, this one seems impossible to overcome for Helaine.
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actually I showed the dialogue to a brit friend and they told me it was more like someone trying to pretend they were british but having no real clue
The dialogue is forced for sure, but I've never seen a game or AVN adding inches next to height measured in feet, it usually goes for the metric system.
I mean who outside of the UK uses inches for heights? Same folks who use stones. :KEK:
 

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Ok, I'm trying hard to give you the benefit of the doubt on the media literacy. I replayed the scene with the baseball bat ) since I didn't get in my playthrough) and it makes perfect sense to me. Sirius tried to prevent the MC from killing and draining those poor idiots, which would have put the MC fully on an irreversible mistake early on. Which was her way of repaying him for saving her. If Sirius doesn't stop him there and the scene is cut (as per your suggestion) it would have probably be a game ending choice, since he would go on a rampage (he can't control his power yet) and could have gotten him killed by a response force (whatever their name is, I forgot).So yeah... the DM should correct you if you go off rails or the game ends.
I'd have to agree with that but at the same time considering there are 2 types of cliff hangers
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I don't think you needed to add the theory on the part about what happened at Chloe's bar, that part was pretty obvious. Regarding the confusion, I can only put that down to both Chloe and Helaine being friends with mc's sister which is how they probably knew. Their conflict with each other probably stems from that and I can only assume that it has something to do with the friend she invited somewhere that she spoke about previously in her bedroom and Chloe probably wasn't part of that.
 
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