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Nomine sine

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i've personally never been fond of dream sex scenes. in my opinion they just take up time since at the end of the day it's "just" a dream. it doesnt affect the relationship with the characters most of the time. usually the rare exception is if its a succubus or goddess or something and then when you meet them in person at least then they'll acknowledge what happened in the dream.

IF and i do mean IF a sex scene needed to be added in the beginning i would prefer it would be with a GF and then his stepmom walks in on them and gives him shit.

i mean hell the way he's able to stand up for himself it would at least be within the realm of possibilty he could have a GF...unless him being a virgin is important.

personally i dont mind the intro as is. but i cant deny the comment about a intro sex scene or somewhere in the beginning makes some kind of sense.
You need to understand that indie developers are always short of resources. What you are talking about requires inventing a new character, rewrite other scenes, and draw new pictures.
 
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You need to understand that indie developers are always short of resources. What you are talking about requires inventing a new character, rewrite other scenes, and draw new pictures.
to be fair if you want a dream sex scene that also requires adding more to the story in the intro. and a new sex image for the girl he bangs in his dream.(no one wants to see the same sex image reused).

but yeah i was aware of it thats why i said i'm ok with the intro as is. i mean it's already done so may as well just move past it as it doesnt take long to get to the actual sex scene in this update anyways.
 

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While loading <'Image' u'side_leila_3_1.png'>:
  File "game/chapter1.rpy", line 237, in script
    leila 3_1"Apparently I've been burdened with feeling pathetic when you should really be feeling it."
IOError: Couldn't find file 'side_leila_3_1.png'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/chapter1.rpy", line 237, in script
    leila 3_1"Apparently I've been burdened with feeling pathetic when you should really be feeling it."
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 715, in execute
    renpy.exports.say(who, what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/exports.py", line 1384, in say
    who(what, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 1179, in __call__
    self.do_display(who, what, cb_args=self.cb_args, dtt=dtt, **display_args)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 851, in do_display
    **display_args)
  File "renpy/character.py", line 601, in display_say
    rv = renpy.ui.interact(mouse='say', type=type, roll_forward=roll_forward)
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
    rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3007, in interact
    repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3517, in interact_core
    self.draw_screen(root_widget, fullscreen_video, (not fullscreen_video) or video_frame_drawn)
  File "renpy/display/core.py", line 2377, in draw_screen
    renpy.config.screen_height,
  File "render.pyx", line 492, in renpy.display.render.render_screen
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 751, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 751, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 751, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 681, in render
    child = renpy.display.render.render(self.child, w, h, st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 751, in render
    surf = render(child, width, height, cst, cat)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/transform.py", line 927, in render
    return transform_render(self, width, height, st, at)
  File "accelerator.pyx", line 116, in renpy.display.accelerator.transform_render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/image.py", line 501, in render
    return wrap_render(self.target, width, height, st, at)
  File "renpy/display/image.py", line 307, in wrap_render
    rend = render(child, w, h, st, at)
  File "render.pyx", line 170, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "render.pyx", line 263, in renpy.display.render.render
  File "renpy/display/im.py", line 607, in render
    return cache.get(self, render=True)
  File "renpy/display/im.py", line 271, in get
    surf = image.load()
  File "renpy/display/im.py", line 651, in load
    filelike = renpy.loader.load(self.filename)
  File "renpy/loader.py", line 798, in load
    raise IOError("Couldn't find file '%s'." % name)
IOError: Couldn't find file 'side_leila_3_1.png'.

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When u ask to see her tits for the "fair exchange." Maybe that choice is too sad for the game to compute.
 
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When u ask to see her tits for the "fair exchange." Maybe that choice is too sad for the game to compute.
That's mb, I put side 3_1 instead of 1_3 and overlooked it when Leila's sprite got reworked.
And yeah the choice do be sad (But u get tiddies).
 

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Well, I just copied 1_3 and renamed it 3_1 to get past the error, but I get this... where are the tiddies man!
 

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Just finished playing it. This is really good. Especially the writing. You have the writer's touch, which is more than could be said for most devs. The world building is awesome. The pacing is great. The narration is pretty eloquent. The dialogues and character interactions flow naturally. That said, these demons are old as fuck, so every character speaking in contemporary English seems like a missed opportunity. You stuck a nice balance with the tone, mixing in subtle humor with the dark fantasy setting to keep things pretty light. Humor is often a double edged sword because poor writers just dial it up to 11 and resort to memes, references, and absurdities to try and get laughs which almost always just comes across as cringy. I thought the situational humor like the conversations with Charon was very effective.

The art is great as well. The fact that there are 2 artists definitely shows though. Mainly, the Rakasha's sprite seems like it's clearly in a different style. It's not a huge problem though, as it doesn't stand out too much as to break immersion. There were some instances where a CG was expected but was absent. For example, the picture of the mom in the early part of the game is just a blank picture frame. Lilith being super hot in the demon book is described but we don't see anything. There were other such instances, but I can't remember atm. We can't expect many different pics during a sex scene when it comes to CGs, but some variation really goes a long way. Facial expressions (cum face, ahegao, blushing, shock when tables are turned etc) and maybe some cum shot variation. While we're on the subject of sex scenes, I think the narration heavy style of sex scene was done well. That said, with just a single CG with no variation and essentially the entire scene playing out via narration, it feels more like a book rather than a VN. The art is one thing, but I personally think spoken dialogues during sex is where VNs really shine (especially if we get into more corruption and domination type of things down the line). Not saying this way is the definite correct way to do things, but it's something to think about.

I thought the choices and the way we can start shaping the MC was done well. Too early to tell, but it seems like high stability will generally be a good guy MC and low stability will be some deranged dominator. Bring it on, I love this split in routes, although games that pull it off flawlessly are pretty rare. The main potential issue being that the MC often comes across as bipolar when picking "evil" choices because it contrasts too much to whatever his base persona is during the common shared text lines between the routes. It was too early to really get a grasp on how this is tackled, but I didn't notice any such issues so far at least.

I can't can't offer financial support because I'm a filthy pirate, but I do wish you the best. Hang in there...! This type of project rarely sees explosive growth on patreon. It mainly relies on actual story telling rather than some porn tropes like incest, harem, school setting, life sim, DAZ3D type of deal that appeals to the lowest common denominator. It honestly might not ever really take off to a sustainable degree despite the great writing, if I'm being honest. Realistically, it probably needs to be a labor of love rather than a shot at monetary gain. Good luck!
 
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I patched it and uploaded it. ^^
As a suggestion, create your youtube account and post a video for your game describing it's features, at the same time make your own reddit account and post in detail your game with provocative content for users eyes (make a good use of the youtube video if you did it), to attract potential patreons, and continue making post of the progress. You can make a good use of and .

PS: I don't known how it works nor how much time has passed since you update the thread and no announcement appears in LATEST UPDATES section. If i was you i would talk in private with a mod.
 
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As a suggestion, create your youtube account and post a video for your game describing it's features, at the same time make your own reddit account and post in detail your game with provocative content for users eyes (make a good use of the youtube video if you did it), to attract potential patreons, and continue making post of the progress. You can make a good use of and .

PS: I don't known how it works nor how much time has passed since you update the thread and no announcement appears in LATEST UPDATES section. If i was you i would talk in private with a mod.
Hey.
Thanks for the suggestions, we were really looking for how to monetize the game better.
And it does appear in latest updates, but got pushed into second page cuz many games were uploaded/updated since yesterday night when this one was.
 
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