There's plenty of other instances of Haylen expressing the same sentiment with Jazon as well, so I think she actually believes it (or is just lying to herself on some level).
But the moment in the previous quest where Haylen sees Jazon with Cainhorn she had learned what he was really about. All the manipulations were completely laid bare at that point. I had assumed that because Haylen continued the affair anyway she had dispensed with any illusions about helping Jazon and was just indulging in pleasure from that point on. But every now and then you get moments where Haylen still acts like she's trying to help Jazon become a better person.
And being fine with Cainhorn doing kinky master/slave roleplay with Jazon is one thing, but to then let Jazon pimp out a priestess in her church so punters can line up to bang her in the confession box is another huge leap in what she is willing to let Jazon get away with .
To be honest, I’ve always wondered what
Haylen would do if she ever found out that Jazon was
blackmailing her own protégées: especially the ones who are already in a relationship. I remember that nun he blackmailed, the one who let him sleep with her just to protect her boyfriend/husband (can’t remember which). Is she even the same person who later does the whole master/slave roleplay with him?
And look, I get that most NTR stories are built around a kink and you’re not supposed to take them too seriously. But still… if Haylen just lets everything happen and gives in purely for pleasure, it completely destroys every principle her character was supposed to have. And don’t tell me she’s “naive enough to think she can change Jazon”, at this point the guy is
beyond redemption. The best “help” she could offer him now would be stabbing him in the back, because he’s absolutely irredeemable.
I’m also really curious what she’s going to do once she learns he’s a
spy working for the Duke, that he’s been playing her and everyone else while keeping an eye on his target. What happens when she finally realizes that his actions didn’t just endanger Leto, but also every single one of her protégées because she basically let the wolf stroll right into the sheepfold?
Just finished the latest Haylen quest on part 2 and boy, does it feel like it's jumped the shark.
I really liked the early part of her quest where Leto sees Jazon kissing Haylen at the dance and their little heart to heart afterwards. Haylen inviting Leto to take her and the rest of the girls for himself gives me more hope for a harem in the Happy Ending. The scene with the portrait was also very touching and sweet.
Jazon and Haylen's session afterwards was hot, particularly the moment where Jazon tells her Leto might be behind the door but she continues anyway.
However, the latter part of the quest feels like another unreasonable escalation with Jazon enslaving Priestest Cainhorn (a character who has probably had the worse treatment of anyone in the story and I can't help but feel sorry for), and basically turning the Church into a whore house.
During the dinner with Leto and Cyanna, Haylen was telling them how much better and more responsible Jazon was becoming, which was already a crazy thing to say. It's shocking that Haylen could still think that way after she caught him with Priestess Cainhorn in her previous quest.
But then that evening, that VERY SAME EVENING, Jazon reveals to Haylen that Priestess Cainhorn is his slave and walks her into the church naked save for a leash and collar around her neck. And Haylen is just fine with it, so long as Cainhorn is happy... Then in the days following he starts whoring Cainhorn out at the Church. And Haylen is still letting this continue.
At this point I can't help but wonder, has Haylen lost her f**king mind?
She is well aware of how manipulative Jazon is so it seems crazy that she is just letting this stuff happen. It seems like there should have been another quest between this one and the previous one to get us to this point. I dunno, it just feels like it's moving too fast for it to be believable that her character would just accept this all happening so quickly.
I hope N_taii will give Helen a good reason behind her behavior, otherwise it will be hard to forgive her.
Also, isn't Priestess Cainhorn, the woman in relationship I was mentionning before, she was blackmailed and forced by Jazon in order to save her loved one. I don't really like it when she is enjoying it with someone she should despice for blackmailing her but since it's a fiction full of hentai logic, I should not think too hard here.
The way the story is progressing and the themes of forgiveness present in the Happy Ending choices, it kinda wouldn't surprise me if all of the women end up being impregnated by the antagonists prior to the endings. It will be a test of Leto's compasion and capacity for forgiveness to overcome that and still love the women and be a father to their children.
While I wouldn't have an issue with that, I imagine there will be people who wouldn't want to see that happen in the Happy End.
Honestly, if all the women ended up getting knocked up, I could never see myself staying with them. For something like that to be even remotely forgivable, the douches would need to be punished properly and be gone for good. They would have knocked up Rose, your girlfriend, after doing whatever they wanted with her before you, and then they would basically leave you with a “farewell gift”: a child who might look exactly like Rose and the Duke in her case, or like the other guys for the other heroines.
I can understand why some people would say that this kind of setup could open the door to a harem ending, with Leto taking the role of father for the children of his enemies. I get the idea behind it. But personally, I could never accept that. How could Leto be happy raising kids whose faces would constantly remind him of the betrayal their mothers committed?
And if the douches were still alive, they would always remain the biological fathers. That creates a permanent link between them and the women, something that would make anyone paranoid.
Some might argue the women could encourage Leto to sleep with other girls too, like in the HC2 ending, but that does not magically make things stable. And I would not want to be in the children’s position either. The kids from the douches would probably feel left out compared to any future “real” children Leto might have later.
I am not Leto, and I could never call that a Happy Ending if the heroines went that far and ended up knocked up.
I understand it would take the story in a different direction, but not one I would enjoy. I prefer scenarios where the MC actually catches the betrayal, confronts them, and we see the consequences play out.
And honestly, when a heroine gets pregnant in NTR stories, it is usually the worst sign for the MC. It reminds me too much of Knight of Messiah, where the MC gets angry but ends up saying nothing, the girls do not care, and they keep cheating anyway.
I can see pregnancy working in the NTR endings though, because it would help Leto move on. It would show that the women went past the point of no return and fully chose the fathers of their children.
But for a Happy Ending?
That would completely ruin it for me.