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if you mean CG scenes, then no. This is a pixel art game first and foremost. The only drawn stuff you will find in here is the sprite pictures for the characters themselves and their outfits.
Unfortunately Jazon, by his nature, is a playboy. So far Jazon has seduced two nuns, a Leto fangirl, his aunt and spoilers belowOh, my mistake! I guess that sarcasm went ~completely~ over my head because the idea of even more "playboy Jazon" put my brain into fight-or-flight mode.
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Really, I just hope that the "beach episode" is a sex filled romp that doesn't get too heavy. Especially after the events of update 16.
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Yeah, maybe that is why I'm so jumpy about the possibility of getting even more of that because it's just the least interesting part of Jazon's character to me and feels like such overkill at this point.
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As for Jazon's character... I don't think he's intended to be interesting. Nothing N_Taii has done with his character is particularly unique or original and he has been consistently portrayed as motivated solely by hedonistic behavior. I don't really take any issue with anything Jazon does because everything Jazon does is boring.
I agree, Jazon is just a player, the guy is just having as much fun as he can and takes advantage of the situations he finds himself in so he can sleep with girls, the guy doesn't give a shit about feelings, he just wants to have sex.
In some ways it is similar to the character of Edrwyr in HC2, in my opinion, only here he has no deep connection or relationship with either the protagonist or the main characters.
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Not true. Consistency is important in a story and many bad stories could have been good if the author had focused on presenting a consistent narrative. If your intent is to create an NTR focused story the second it crosses from NTR being the focus to revenge being the focus it stops being what you started out to create. If you want a revenge story then play or read one, but without a strong set up it's never going to be as satisfying as it could be. The HC games are about corruption, even the NTR is secondary to it. If you want just the revenge then play something else.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Ntr is at its core about despair, and despair brings in turn jealousy and hatred. Revenge is the most natural course of events, or at least, attempt at revenge. A revenge ending isnt a cool getback which ends with fireworks and applause (that would actually be unbeliavable and ruin the theme). The mc will still remain heavily scarred with permanent changes to the way he sees others, mainly women. He still cant fuck a woman, seduce a woman like the antagonist. His psyche will always bear marks of inferiority, no matter how badly he managed to hurt the antagonist and even the women that betrayed him.
Revenge endings wouldnt ruin anything, they just have to be executed well, like all endings. Revenge isnt a different genra from ntr, it's a possible branching point or follow up.
You realize that nothing you're saying in any way invalidates anything or is in any way contradictory to what I'm saying, yes? I'm not saying "herpderp rvnge shodnt happn", I'm saying "Revenge can and should happen, but there needs to be a reason for it first." If you focus the story on revenge then it's not NTR, it's just a revenge story. I'm suggesting not putting the cart before the horse.
I'll use an example... there's a Korean webcomic called "Not the daughter, but the mother." which starts off with a guy learning that his wife is cheating on him. He dies and gets isekaid back in time in his own life to around the time his wife started cheating on him. So what does he do? He takes revenge by fucking the coworker who revealed that his wife was cheating or would be shortly, and then he fucks his sister in law and mother in law. It's not an NTR story because even though his wife is cucking him he cucks back harder. If what you want is for HC3 to be revenge focused then you don't want HC3 to be HC3. I'm all for Leto having an option where he wins the day and takes his retribution out on Rose and the duke. The revenge endings are the only good endings for HC1 and 2. But as the core of the story? If revenge was the focus we'd have run out of plot 8 updates ago.
I really like the HC saga, regardless of the endings, whether it's revenge, happy or netorare, the plot of the whole saga always shows how people end up making stupid decisions and falling into other people's games, the strong and proud girl is subjugated and degraded, the intelligent one is fooled, the mature one falls into childish games, etc.
But again, always seeing a character who is left without action until the end of the story (in this case the one who would be the main character) frustrates me a little XD, I'm not saying it's a bad thing because the author of the saga wanted it to be that way, he must have his reasons, but I'm saying it could be better.
But again, always seeing a character who is left without action until the end of the story (in this case the one who would be the main character) frustrates me a little XD, I'm not saying it's a bad thing because the author of the saga wanted it to be that way, he must have his reasons, but I'm saying it could be better.
You're supposed to be frustrated by it. If you're playing one of the HCs and thinking to yourself "Wow, Zeno sure is cool cucking his dead brother like that." then I think you might be missing the point. If the journey ends too quickly the destination won't be satisfying so being frustrated with the lack of Leto's involvement is perfectly natural.
I never said it that way, and never in such an extreme way, I think you're being too extreme, the fact that the character through whom we are supposed to see most of the story (main character), has his own scenes here and there in the interlude of the story, does not mean that the story should end quickly.
But as I said before the author must have his reasons for doing it that way, we don't have to agree on everything that concerns the game, I respect what others likes and dislike.
And please, the man who killed your father is fucking your mother and the girl you like, and that person is also your uncle, it's not cool at all XD,
But life and history are full of these shitty events, which as I said, cannot be avoided because of the stupid decisions people make,
but that is precisely the reason why there is a story, that people and the decisions they make are not perfect, if they were there would be no story to tell.
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Nothing in my post was even a little bit extreme. I was simply saying that feeling a little bit of discomfort was perfectly natural.
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I didnt say cuck back harder, I said get revenge. Killing, imprisonement, etc. The mc is still fucked. He didnt get his getback by cucking the antogonist, which would probably help his self esteem, he did a work around, and whilst smart, the mc will always feel inferior deep down, will always feel hateful and toxic and bitter. In the end, nothing goes back to how it was. This kind of ending is in perfect line with the theme of these games, showing that even if you miraculously punish the evil doers, through a herculean effort, you still cant have what they have, and they still took a lot from you, permanently. It follows naturally, nothing needing to be changed except the last third of the story(but we havent even reached that so, nothing need to be changed).
I played Hc1 and 2 fully, only a little of HC3, but I saw that there were choices from the beggining in how Leto would view his circumstance. I think thats genious. It provides proper build up to his final decisions that determines the ending. Him slowly becoming bitter and hopeless, or faithfull and strong or a pushover.
The truth is that I would like the author of the saga to explain what the logic is behind the probability of pregnancy in women, because shit really, they have to have some kind of contraceptive system to avoid getting pregnant, because with so many internal cumshots it is really incredible that the extra and main characters do not get pregnant until the point where the player is given the option to determine the ending.
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Aaaand you're just being obtuse to be obtuse at this point. Is this what it feels like to argue with me? Because I feel like this is probably what that's like.